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Title: CV based b-25's
Post by: ECHO44 on March 09, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
on history channel i saw that they launched b-25's from cv's, it would be nice to do that to make seaborne assaults better
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Motherland on March 09, 2008, 04:04:12 PM
 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Spikes on March 09, 2008, 04:11:16 PM
ROFL
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Yossarian on March 09, 2008, 04:15:49 PM
I'm going to state the many reasons not to do this, but in a much gentler tone than most other people probably will.


Also, I'm sure that someone else will make a remark about searching before you post; I agree with this, but only because it allows you to see what the drawbacks of your idea may be.  There's nothing wrong, however, with posting about an idea even if somebody else has already done so.

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Yossarian
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Virtue on March 09, 2008, 06:39:28 PM
Echo, this has  been discussed already before many times. Of course people would rather mock/laugh at you on the forums instead of doing something as jaw dropping as explaining the situation. For future reference, just use the search function to see if the idea you have come up w/ has already been brought up. Btw this idea is nice, but it only happened once, so due to the rarity of this event.. the chances of us getting B25s specially modified are very low  :cry
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: minke on March 09, 2008, 07:46:26 PM
Why not just land your 25 on the cv? Then you can take off again.For added realism you could ditch in enemy territory. ;)
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: ian5440 on March 09, 2008, 09:43:16 PM
Yossarian is very right, This happened once.
I also saw that thing on the history chnl. and it was very cool but minke is right...just land and reup on the carrier, not that hard?
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: FrodeMk3 on March 09, 2008, 09:48:11 PM
I'm gonna applaud the restraint that many here have shown; During the voting that led to the B-25 being put in the game, It was one of the major arguments' that appeared. Along with much, MUCH flaming. You tread on Thin Ice, with this thread... :pray
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: DaddyAck on March 09, 2008, 11:22:02 PM
:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

I agree, no additional commentary is necasary.  :D
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Larry on March 10, 2008, 12:46:26 AM
I'm gonna applaud the restraint that many here have shown; During the voting that led to the B-25 being put in the game, It was one of the major arguments' that appeared. Along with much, MUCH flaming. You tread on Thin Ice, with this thread... :pray


Thats why the B25 is in the game, because all those little kids wanted to take it off the CV.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Gowan on March 10, 2008, 11:42:29 AM
I'm gonna applaud the restraint that many here have shown

thanks, cause LORD knows how hard it is to keep myself from trearing the squeeky a new one
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: DaddyAck on March 10, 2008, 12:17:44 PM
thanks, cause LORD knows how hard it is to keep myself from trearing the squeeky a new one

Yeah, alot of people Im sure when they read this post thought "dang man did we not go over this months ago, and is there no search button that this guy might have used instead of annoying......." well something to that effect any way.  :P
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: mentalguy on March 10, 2008, 03:37:42 PM
thanks, cause LORD knows how hard it is to keep myself from trearing the squeeky a new one

And what the hell are you going to do? Smack him through your computer screen?
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: VansCrew1 on March 10, 2008, 04:21:19 PM
on history channel i saw that they launched b-25's from cv's, it would be nice to do that to make seaborne assaults better

:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl



 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: EskimoJoe on March 10, 2008, 04:31:03 PM
And what the hell are you going to do? Smack him through your computer screen?
Yes.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Latrobe on March 10, 2008, 04:35:46 PM
I don't see why everyone thinks this is so funny. I'd LOVE to shoot splinters at the La-7 on my 6!  :lol
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: colmbo on March 10, 2008, 04:37:55 PM
I'm going to state the many reasons not to do this, but in a much gentler tone than most other people probably will.

  • this was a one-off event
  • these were specially modified B-25s, of a version that we do not have in the game, and many of their guns were replaced with broom handles
  • what would this actually add to the game?
  • it might be fun, but there's so many other things that would almost certainly be more fun (e.g. entirely new planes in my opinion)

The modifications didn't help the Mitchells get off the deck, they only added a bombbay fuel tank and cheap bombsight.

No guns were removed.  The broomhandles were stuck in the tail to make it look as if they had tailguns.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Bosco123 on March 10, 2008, 04:38:07 PM
I saw dis on da history channel and it looks like it wold be realy kool.

I WANT IT NOW!@#$#!!!! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: GreenEagle43 on March 10, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
yOU are refering to the doolittle raid.these planes where modifeid to do this one time special mission.read your history.the b-25 was heavly striped so it could only carry enough fuel and bombes to tokoyo and hopefuly get its crews to china.they lost a lot of good men on that raid. :salute :salute :salute
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Gowan on March 11, 2008, 07:04:14 PM
The modifications didn't help the Mitchells get off the deck, they only added a bombbay fuel tank and cheap bombsight.

No guns were removed.  The broomhandles were stuck in the tail to make it look as if they had tailguns.

they actaully needed lots of modifications to get it off deck, they removed the guns as well. In the actuall raid, 2 planes almost hit the water taking off, thats how close it was
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Strip on March 11, 2008, 07:08:50 PM
Interesting......my guess would be to look for the up coming dolittle raids! FSO style :)

Strip(er)
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: wrongwayric on March 11, 2008, 07:43:38 PM
I myself have landed the B25 on the cv in the game, backed it up, rearmed, and launched again. Maybe i can see if our squad command will post the video we have of us doing this. AKbmbzwy had the idea and after a few tries in the TA it's not that difficult to do.
AKsleepy
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Spikes on March 11, 2008, 07:48:24 PM
I myself have landed the B25 on the cv in the game, backed it up, rearmed, and launched again. Maybe i can see if our squad command will post the video we have of us doing this. AKbmbzwy had the idea and after a few tries in the TA it's not that difficult to do.
AKsleepy

I do it all the time, heck, lancs with a full load are easy.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: Beefcake on March 11, 2008, 10:03:17 PM
Just because a plane can take off from a CV doesn't mean it gets to do it all the time. Heck I mean a fully loaded C130 can land and take off from a CV without moving.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: colmbo on March 12, 2008, 01:28:59 AM
they actaully needed lots of modifications to get it off deck, they removed the guns as well. In the actuall raid, 2 planes almost hit the water taking off, thats how close it was

Ah, forgot about the ventral turret.  However they added 320 gallons of fuel in two different tanks plus loaded up 10 5-gallon cans.  The added fuel (2220 pounds) more than made up for the 600 pound reduction of the ventral turret removal -- takeoff weight ended up being around 31,000 pounds.

One of the airplanes that almost hit the water was the #7 airplane flown by Ted Lawson.  He was afraid of the prop blast damaging the flaps so he raised them before takeoff.  IIRC the other guy forgot his flaps.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: wrongwayric on March 12, 2008, 08:01:39 AM
 :huh Show me film of a C130 launching from a cv without moving because i don't believe it. Maybe with JATO's yes, but fully loaded and a catapult shot, naaaa i'd have to see it to believe it.
Title: Re: CV based b-25's
Post by: SD67 on March 12, 2008, 08:09:22 AM
Hmmm, well IIRC well a modern carrier moves just a tad over the Herc's VS0 so I guess it's plausible.
I know they can land and reup in the some very tight places. I've even seen them do it on a football field.