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Title: Suspended for possession
Post by: Mini D on March 13, 2008, 09:07:06 AM
...of skittles. A candy deal went bad:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/skittles.suspension.ap/index.html

I am in awe of the prowess of the education system and it's concern for children at all costs.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Charon on March 13, 2008, 09:40:48 AM
Well, this bright young many just learned a good lesson that in life -- you'll often be under the dominion of morons. Life is not always fair, and often doesn't make sense and people don't much care if it does or not, because them's the rules and I get off work in two hours.

Charon
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Mini D on March 13, 2008, 09:48:14 AM
Actually, the lesson is much bigger than what the kid learned.

Candy was banned. A rule created for completely arbitrary non-legal reasons.
Kids start dealing candy.
A school is willing to trash a kid's transcript because he was in possession of candy.

I dunno, but the more I read the more fascinating this one became. Should a school be soooo concerned about a child's welfare that they ban him from absolutely everything they deem harmfull? I'm all for following the rules, but am somewhat miffed at the reasoning behind this and the reaction to it.

I think back to the movie "Christmas Story" and the scene where the kids all have the fake teeth. The teacher confiscates them and puts them in the drawer with all the other crap she's confiscated from them over the year. Whomever caught this individual buying candy had a perfect opportunity to score some skittles but opted to pursue a much more damaging course of action.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SkyRock on March 13, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
Well, this bright young many just learned a good lesson that in life -- you'll often be under the dominion of morons. Life is not always fair, and often doesn't make sense and people don't much care if it does or not, because them's the rules and I get off work in two hours.

Charon
Very well said Charon, many morons all agreeing on a topic still doesn't make the topic right! :rock
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SkyRock on March 13, 2008, 09:53:42 AM
Actually, the lesson is much bigger than what the kid learned.

Candy was banned. A rule created for completely arbitrary non-legal reasons.
Kids start dealing candy.
A school is willing to trash a kid's transcript because he was in possession of candy.

I dunno, but the more I read the more fascinating this one became. Should a school be soooo concerned about a child's welfare that they ban him from absolutely everything they deem harmfull? I'm all for following the rules, but am somewhat miffed at the reasoning behind this and the reaction to it.
It's kind of like the big stink about video games.  Some(grand theft auto), I agree are completely useless and quite harmful, yet others have been proven to educate, and even improve physical skills.  Some day, video games will be the best teachers we have.(In the Matrix movie, they just downloaded knowlege)Now I'm not willing to go that far, but in the future, the best way to learn something will be to interact with it virtually, then test in reality.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Mini D on March 13, 2008, 09:55:43 AM
We had rules against eating in class when I was in high school. Anyone caught had to throw away what they were eating. I do not recall a single suspension over it the whole time I was in school. This is akin to jail time for a speeding ticket.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: LePaul on March 13, 2008, 10:11:12 AM
Maybe its this huge a penalty is what it takes for a kid to realize breaking the rules have consequences?  I don't know.  We have a pretty soft generation and it seems to take some extreme measures to make things sink in at times.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Mini D on March 13, 2008, 10:16:46 AM
Social behavior should be dictated on a more social level and less on an administrative level. I think you need to take a deeper look at exactly what this is telling children.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: NUKE on March 13, 2008, 10:20:58 AM
I remember when I was in high school, a bunch of kids started selling candy bars and stuff to make extra money. I think they got the idea from the "official" school candy selling drives.

Anyway, it got kind of out of hand.



Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: trax1 on March 13, 2008, 10:24:30 AM
Theres no way to justify possible ruining the rest of this kids life over buying a bag of Skittles.  If they had stuck with the punishment he was given it could have been very harmful to his chances of getting into a good college, because for one he would have a suspension on his record, and secondly he was removed from his position of class vice president.

When I was in high school on each floor during the passing period a teacher would be standing in the hallway selling candy.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Hornet33 on March 13, 2008, 10:47:05 AM
Wat ever happened to COMMON SENSE????  The priciple of that schools needs to have his butt dragged out behind the gym and the crap knocked out of him.

News flash.....kids eat candy. Oh it's against the rules to have candy in school, well take it away from him and be done with it.

I swear if some teacher or principle ever tried something like that with my kids I'll have their arse.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: rpm on March 13, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
This is what happens when you create prohibition.

Skittles is the new gateway drug.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: NUKE on March 13, 2008, 12:26:19 PM
This is what happens when you create prohibition.

Skittles is the new gateway drug.

thats what happens when a law is passed.


Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SkyRock on March 13, 2008, 01:02:15 PM
Maybe its this huge a penalty is what it takes for a kid to realize breaking the rules have consequences?  I don't know.  We have a pretty soft generation and it seems to take some extreme measures to make things sink in at times.

consequences?  3 day suspension over a bag of skittles?  On one hand, I understand the policy, but a 3 day suspension is a level 3 offence or higher in our district. Give the kid a choice between 3 licks or one day of in-school suspension.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 13, 2008, 01:04:59 PM
Maybe its this huge a penalty is what it takes for a kid to realize breaking the rules have consequences?  I don't know.  We have a pretty soft generation and it seems to take some extreme measures to make things sink in at times.


Screw that.  Again you attach morality to legality.  Rarely are they one and the same.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: moot on March 13, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
What a load of red tape... Just confiscate the candy and put a bad mark on his report card.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: john9001 on March 13, 2008, 01:09:11 PM
there are too many idiots making too many rules.

"land of the free and home of the brave" are just words to some song they play before the "big" game.


wellcome to the United Nanny States of America.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SD67 on March 14, 2008, 03:51:59 AM
Shouldn't that be the USSA?
Papers please...
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Vulcan on March 14, 2008, 05:33:03 AM
What next? Teenage girls exchaning sexual favours for M&Ms?
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SD67 on March 14, 2008, 05:44:05 AM
Bah, teenage girls were trading sexual favours back when I was at school.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Fishu on March 14, 2008, 07:14:47 AM
Quite a freedom you got there. Over here we have candy and soda automats at school. Nobody could care less if kids would be selling candy to each other. Of course there's limits to WHEN it's acceptable to munch candy, but violating the rule is not punishable by suspension.

Suspending even for half a day for having candy or selling it to other student is stupid. OF COURSE kids do have candy and they will have it even if they'd be thrown to jail for it.

...or are they trying to teach the students how to sell crack under the scope? That could come handy in the future; Once you get out of school you're already a fully qualified crack dealer who knows all the tricks.

Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: MORAY37 on March 14, 2008, 08:37:15 AM
Lol... surprised the kid didn't get his gun from his locker.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: texasmom on March 14, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
consequences?  3 day suspension over a bag of skittles?  On one hand, I understand the policy, but a 3 day suspension is a level 3 offence or higher in our district. Give the kid a choice between 3 licks or one day of in-school suspension.
Y'all still give licks? Would be nice if they did that here.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: Masherbrum on March 14, 2008, 08:53:46 AM
LMAO.  In HS, we had a single vending machine.   The slot in which the 3 Musketeers bars were in was malfunctioning all of the time.   I'd put $.35 in and get the whole row of bars.   I'd sell em for $.35 to my buddies and did it for 5 months.   We'd often tell anyone who would listen that the slot was broken as you'd put in the money and get the whole row.

Then, a teacher approached me about charges.   I said "Go for it, Please I implore you to do that.   We've told the Principal, various teachers, custodians and they ignored us."    Never heard from anyone again.   The slot was fixed shortly thereafter.   
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: -tronski- on March 14, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
Its better the kid learns to pick and choose what rules he feels like following...that way, he'll be all set for adulthood

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SOB on March 14, 2008, 09:03:17 AM
When you buy Skittles, you're supporting terrorism.
Title: Re: Suspended for possession
Post by: SOB on March 14, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
Its better the kid learns to pick and choose what rules he feels like following...that way, he'll be all set for adulthood

 Tronsky

I agree.  A regular part of my adulthood has been spent pushing the limits of or working around stupid pointless rules.  I don't think I'm alone in that.