Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 12:11:56 AM

Title: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
I'll most likely wear it anyways -- but do you all think wearing something advertising the Israeli Air Force would be considered offensive to some?  It has a drawing of a Mirage III on it with a caption of "Israeli Air Force, defending the homeland for 60 years."  I'm neither Jewish or do I have some kind of agends with it, I'm just a military aircraft nut and have a lot of respect for the IAF and its combat record.  Some friends and family think its a bit aggressive.  Thoughts?

Ely/Elysian/Turdburglr
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Tango on March 15, 2008, 12:20:37 AM
I think the only ones that would be offended would be the Islamic terrorists. Nothing wrong with wearing.

HOWEVER, I would strongly discourage you from doing so if your going to the Palestinian territory.  :lol
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 12:28:23 AM
Lol, nah I'll leave the shirt at home if I head to Palestine.  Only reason I ask this is that the above mentioned people had such a reaction to the shirt.  Made me think maybe I was off the mark in my thinking.  I am a high school teacher and would love to wear it on casual Friday, but thinking it is too political for that. 

Mirage III is a sexah plane though however ya look at it.  Maybe I'll have to get a Mig-21 shirt to counterbalance it.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 15, 2008, 01:09:03 AM
Wear the damn shirt and let em whine.

Hell if it were me I'd wear the shirt just to hear em whine
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: SaburoS on March 15, 2008, 01:27:34 AM
Wear the shirt. The IAF is considered by some to be the best Air Force out there.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Nilsen on March 15, 2008, 08:34:02 AM
Nothing wrong with that shirt, and yes the mirage III is super sexy!

I think the Mirage III/V is the best looking jet ever made.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Mr No Name on March 15, 2008, 08:48:43 AM
After the US shot down 2 Libyan SU-22s in 1981 I used to wear a shirt that said:

USA   2
Libya  0
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Brownshirt on March 15, 2008, 08:51:13 AM
Just as offensive as wearing HAMAS or PLO T-shirts... if it's a problem for someone it's their problems; not yours.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: DrDea on March 15, 2008, 09:48:37 AM
 I was wearing a shirt I got at an airshow one time in a bar.It was a sweet looking 109 and some guy came up to me and said."Yea bro..I WITH ya on that.Heil Hitler" Some people just got no sense. :rofl
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 10:20:26 AM
Wear the damn shirt and let em whine.

Hell if it were me I'd wear the shirt just to hear em whine

Yeah, I'm with ya on that sentiment Dred.  All of you guys posts for that matter.  The shirt will be worn for sure, but dunno about at work -- too bad because it would be a good conversation starter with students.  We cannot have any overt political influence on the kids (nor should we) and some of the Muslim kids may have a bad feelings about seeing a teacher wearing the shirt with a warplane and the Israeli flag.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Slash27 on March 15, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
Just as offensive as wearing HAMAS or PLO T-shirts... if it's a problem for someone it's their problems; not yours.

I dont think its in the same vein as that.



Where did you get the shirt anyway?
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: snowey on March 15, 2008, 10:24:53 AM
dont wear it in egipt syria or any countrys around israle i know i buchared all of the spellings
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 10:32:01 AM
I dont think its in the same vein as that.



Where did you get the shirt anyway?

I bought it from an online store after doing an "Israei Air Force t-shirt" search on google.  I may be arong, but I think the shirt is actaully being mailed from Israel.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: evenhaim on March 15, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
 :lol poeple got offended for real?

slash if you want one i can send ya one they sell them in every gift shop here, and cheap.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 11:16:07 AM
:lol poeple got offended for real?

slash if you want one i can send ya one they sell them in every gift shop here, and cheap.

When it comes to politics or religion (or things on the periphery of that) people get there panties in a wad rather easily.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: bozon on March 15, 2008, 11:16:59 AM
Mirage III is a sexah plane though however ya look at it.  Maybe I'll have to get a Mig-21 shirt to counterbalance it.
Yes, a burning Mig 21 would be most suitable to go with the Mirage :)
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: AquaShrimp on March 15, 2008, 11:22:40 AM
(http://www.poke-egg.com/pics/gay_thread.jpg)

Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 12:21:41 PM
Someone want to translate AquaShrimp's post for me?
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Coshy on March 15, 2008, 01:32:26 PM
Someone want to translate AquaShrimp's post for me?

I think it means he likes you.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 03:38:11 PM
Awww, very cute but he didn't have to deface a public sign just to let me know.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Dowding on March 15, 2008, 03:47:47 PM
I wouldn't say it was in the least bit offensive.

But it is just a little a trite and more than a little gay. It's like those sad idiots who wear camo trousers from Army surplus stores or 'Marines' T-shirts. Especially when they aren't even American. Or in the Marines for that matter.

Bent.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: SIG220 on March 15, 2008, 03:51:09 PM
I'll most likely wear it anyways -- but do you all think wearing something advertising the Israeli Air Force would be considered offensive to some?  It has a drawing of a Mirage III on it with a caption of "Israeli Air Force, defending the homeland for 60 years."  I'm neither Jewish or do I have some kind of agends with it, I'm just a military aircraft nut and have a lot of respect for the IAF and its combat record.  Some friends and family think its a bit aggressive.  Thoughts?

Ely/Elysian/Turdburglr


As long as you are not a student wearing it to school, you would be fine.   Otherwise, you would find yourself expelled.

I got arrested in Berkeley, California, for wearing this T-Shirt:


(http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/square-large-fredimao.jpg)
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Chairboy on March 15, 2008, 03:54:17 PM
I got arrested in Berkeley, California, for wearing this T-Shirt:


(http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/square-large-fredimao.jpg)
Details, please.  What charge?
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Dowding on March 15, 2008, 03:55:12 PM
You were arrested for that? Oh my god, what a travesty! I hope you sued them!
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: NUKE on March 15, 2008, 03:55:29 PM
I wouldn't say it was in the least bit offensive.

But it is just a little a trite and more than a little gay. It's like those sad idiots who wear camo trousers from Army surplus stores or 'Marines' T-shirts. Especially when they aren't even American. Or in the Marines for that matter.

Bent.

Wow, people do that? I mean wear Marine shirts and they are not even American? That seems odd.

I'd wear a shirt that had the Brit flag printed on it though, just because it looks cool to me.

Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: SIG220 on March 15, 2008, 03:56:32 PM
Details, please.  What charge?


Not honoring diversity, of course.    :lol :lol :lol :lol


_____________________________ _______
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Dowding on March 15, 2008, 03:58:40 PM
Yup, they do. It is rather sad - saw it quite recently actually. And I'm sure I've seen a TV presenter over here wearing one.

Kind of like wearing a Beefeater tunic if you were from Austin, Texas.

A flag is a flag - I wouldn't say using that was daft.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 04:12:33 PM
Nevermind, wasn't even worth a response.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: ink on March 15, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
i dont find it offensive,    my favorite t that i where is
"Welcome to America...
         Now speak english"
  and i really dont care who it offends.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 04:18:23 PM
Yeah, I don't really care who it offends either, I was just shocked at some peoples reactions being so strong.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Chairboy on March 15, 2008, 04:22:01 PM
I made this shirt from The Simpsons for my sister for her trip to Egypt a few years ago.  For some reason, she decided not to wear it.  I made one for myself that I used to enjoy wearing around LA.

(http://watch.windsofchange.net/pics/try_and_stop_us.jpg)
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
Anyways, got my answer.  Admittedly a skewed one on a BBS for a military video game but...  Most are with me thinking it is not offensive and a couple guys think its ghey/gay.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: vorticon on March 15, 2008, 04:55:06 PM
it will likely only be offensive to people I have no qualms about offending.

as good as no, as far as i'm concerned.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Slash27 on March 15, 2008, 06:09:32 PM
:lol poeple got offended for real?

slash if you want one i can send ya one they sell them in every gift shop here, and cheap.


XXL  :aok


I would love to get one Freez.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Brownshirt on March 15, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
I wouldn't say it was in the least bit offensive.

But it is just a little a trite and more than a little gay. It's like those sad idiots who wear camo trousers from Army surplus stores or 'Marines' T-shirts. Especially when they aren't even American. Or in the Marines for that matter.

Bent.

Yep. Co-worker is wearing "Orange County Choppers" shirts and he doesn't even own any kind of bike. That sure is gay and I did let him know about it.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 15, 2008, 11:05:01 PM
Yep. Co-worker is wearing "Orange County Choppers" shirts and he doesn't even own any kind of bike. That sure is gay and I did let him know about it.

So you think I should be a pilot in the IAF or fly a Mirage III in order to wear a t-shirt?  You guys are pretty damn judgemental, why so critical of others for something so trivial?
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: OOZ662 on March 16, 2008, 01:35:06 AM
I think he was being sarcastic about the harshness of the quoted post, not relating to you.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: SD67 on March 16, 2008, 01:37:19 AM
Anyone who gets offended probably deserves it :D
wear it!
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Brownshirt on March 16, 2008, 04:53:57 AM
So you think I should be a pilot in the IAF or fly a Mirage III in order to wear a t-shirt?  You guys are pretty damn judgemental, why so critical of others for something so trivial?

There's a little difference between wearing a poster T-shirt like that IAF/Mirage (I don't have problems with that, I'd wear it too) or wearing a poser shirt like that OCC's (I wouldn't wear even if I do ride a Dyna, however it doesn't have anything from OCC) or Marines (not a Marine here).
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: moot on March 16, 2008, 05:48:39 AM
Hey Ely, long time :) 
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: expat on March 16, 2008, 06:04:13 AM
I had a t-shirt that had an afghan flag on it the the letters T.W.A.T underneath.
It was given to me by the brit det at thumrait , T.W.A.T being The War Against Terror  my boss got upst by it so had to stop wearing it :(
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 16, 2008, 10:37:25 AM
There's a little difference between wearing a poster T-shirt like that IAF/Mirage (I don't have problems with that, I'd wear it too) or wearing a poser shirt like that OCC's (I wouldn't wear even if I do ride a Dyna, however it doesn't have anything from OCC) or Marines (not a Marine here).

Ah, gotcha.  Yeah that OCC stuff is a bit poser-ish, like the person wearing it is trying to broadcast to the world "I am a tough guy" or something.  Only seen my junior high school students wearing it TBH. 
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Elysian on March 16, 2008, 10:38:32 AM
Oh and hey Moot!  Good to see you are still around man!
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Tango on March 16, 2008, 11:53:43 AM
I get a remark every now and then when I wear my Confederate do-rag while riding my bike. They say "people will think your a racist". I tell them no I'm just a proud Southerner. Theres a difference.

Of course they will sometimes say it represents slavery, but if thats true then I guess the same can be said for Old Glory as well since it was around before the Civil War.

People will find a reason to be offended about anything only because they want to be offended.

Live and let live.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: evenhaim on March 16, 2008, 01:52:33 PM

XXL  :aok


I would love to get one Freez.

cc
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: xbrit on March 16, 2008, 03:02:39 PM
I had a t-shirt that had an afghan flag on it the the letters T.W.A.T underneath.
It was given to me by the brit det at thumrait , T.W.A.T being The War Against Terror  my boss got upst by it so had to stop wearing it :(
Should have had an arrow pointing to your head -@@-
How's it going? long time no see.
Title: Re: Is wearing an IAF t-shirt offensive?
Post by: Pooh21 on March 16, 2008, 05:36:07 PM
There was a cool shirt I thought about getting. on onside was an Israeli soldier with an M-16in front of a woman and child shielding them.
On the other was an Islamic guy cowering with an AK pointing at the israelis from behind a woman in a burkha and a kid.