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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: angelsandair on March 15, 2008, 12:26:01 AM
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Did the spit 5 ever have clipped wings like the spixteen? I saw a pic of one but it could just be the modelers fault.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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i belive so :noid
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Vc or Vb, I dont remember which...
And the IXe had clipped, and the XVIe, (XVI didnt originally have clipped wings), and...
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Did the spit 5 ever have clipped wings like the spixteen? I saw a pic of one but it could just be the modelers fault.
Never hear of the CCC Spit V?
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Never hear of the CCC Spit V?
What exactly are you reffering to?
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What exactly are you reffering to?
clipped - wings
cropped - supercharger diameter
crapped - old airframes
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Vc or Vb, I dont remember which...
And the IXe had clipped, and the XVIe, (XVI didnt originally have clipped wings), and...
ALL XVI's were produced clipped.
V, VIII, IX, XIV all flew with clipped wings at some time or another.
I though the CCC was -
Clipped
Cropped
Clapped (i.e. clapped out airframes)
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ALL XVI's were produced clipped.
V, VIII, IX, XIV all flew with clipped wings at some time or another.
I though the CCC was -
Clipped
Cropped
Clapped (i.e. clapped out airframes)
And often referred to as Spitfire VDs for the clapped part :)
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And often referred to as Spitfire VDs for the clapped part :)
:lol :lol
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ALL XVI's were produced clipped.
V, VIII, IX, XIV all flew with clipped wings at some time or another.
I though the CCC was -
Clipped
Cropped
Clapped (i.e. clapped out airframes)
I guess then my books must be wrong, but I found color picture of XVIs with non-clipped wings. So either the spit in question is not really an XVI or the caption is wrong.
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Yes, I have the same information.
I don't believe each and every single Mk.XVI was produced with clipped wings. Take a look at some photos regarding 443 Hornet Sqn... the same sqn. from which our default Spix skin is. One of their Spitfires has standard tips. There is a possibility that they had a Spitfire IX in service but the engine cowlings say otherwise. It's difficult to tell, but Spit IX's and XVI's differed also in the shape of the engine cowling.
Here's a link showing the differences: http://folk.uio.no/hungnes/avia/spitfire/mkixvar.htm (http://folk.uio.no/hungnes/avia/spitfire/mkixvar.htm)
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Did the spit 5 ever have clipped wings like the spixteen? I saw a pic of one but it could just be the modelers fault.
(http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqdn1/images/No40Sqn20SAAFSpitVondeck.jpg)
(http://www.aeroplaneart.com.au/Images/JSJ_PC_Supermarine_Spitfire_3.jpg)
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And often referred to as Spitfire VDs for the clapped part :)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Never hear of the CCC Spit V?
No, but I've heard of the spit V. It's in every magazine about planes basically. Never hear about anything else. Dont want it, just wondering.
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2nd TAF did not operate mixed grps of Spitfires within squadrons. They operated either XVIs or IXs, not both.
443 RCAF and others operated standard tipped XVIs alongside clipped XVIs.
Wether the XVIs were "produced" clipped is a moot point, wingtips were modifed (on or off) at the squadron level, so on actual operations, they could be either.
...was going to add the reason why they did not mix IXs and XVIs was because the Packard Merlins on the XVIs were built to metric standards, and the tools needed to service the engines were different than the IXs. Also, many parts were not interchangeable, screw sizes were different (metric and imperial), ect.
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I guess then my books must be wrong, but I found color picture of XVIs with non-clipped wings. So either the spit in question is not really an XVI or the caption is wrong.
I'm with Kev on this one. They came off the line clipped as they were being sent in to 2 TAF for essentially ground attack work. There were some that had tips fitted in the field. Stan Turner's XVI had tips added. He was a Wing Commander at the time. Part of the problem with the photos is many of the squadrons went from IXs to XVIs and it's really only serial numbers that tell whether it's an IX or an XVI
Remember that it was a simple mod to add or remove the tips. But Production line photos seem to show the XVIs coming off the line clipped for the job they were going to do which was down low.
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...was going to add the reason why they did not mix IXs and XVIs was because the Packard Merlins on the XVIs were built to metric standards, and the tools needed to service the engines were different than the IXs. Also, many parts were not interchangeable, screw sizes were different (metric and imperial), ect.
Agh? The Packards were built to ASA/USAS (ANSI from Oct 1966) standards not metric afaik. British engines were built to BA standards
On tools for bolts, the Americans measure across the flats while the British measure across the points, for wrench sizes.
American Acme threads are not metric.