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Title: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: SIG220 on March 15, 2008, 07:33:33 AM
Perhaps it was an Al Qaeda nest???

See:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080314_1__Arock56356


Mechanical malfunction, or perhaps pilot error??
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Dago on March 15, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
Poop happens.    :D
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: AquaShrimp on March 15, 2008, 11:44:45 AM
A while back, an F-16 pilot inadvertently strafed a school in New York with his 20mm.  On the F-16s control stick ,the trigger is used for more than one purpose.  Depending on which menu you have pulled up, the function of the trigger changes.  For example, in the New York situation, the pilot was trying to use his GPS waypoints, but had the wrong menu pulled up.  So instead of getting his new waypoints, it fired the cannon.  Maybe something like this caused the training bomb to be dropped.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Maverick on March 15, 2008, 11:45:28 AM
Well offhand I'd say that there is a pilot, crewchief and at least one ordinance hanger that are going to be rather uncomfortable for the next several days. At least until the source of the problem is identified.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Rino on March 15, 2008, 12:10:56 PM
A while back, an F-16 pilot inadvertently strafed a school in New York with his 20mm.  On the F-16s control stick ,the trigger is used for more than one purpose.  Depending on which menu you have pulled up, the function of the trigger changes.  For example, in the New York situation, the pilot was trying to use his GPS waypoints, but had the wrong menu pulled up.  So instead of getting his new waypoints, it fired the cannon.  Maybe something like this caused the training bomb to be dropped.

     It was in NJ btw, and it was the school's parking lot in the middle of the night AFAIK.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Rino on March 15, 2008, 12:18:05 PM
     Reading the comments under that story makes me think there are a bunch of
folks in need of a clue in Tulsa.  From time to time things fall off aircraft, unfortunately
this time it did damage.  Fortunately no one was injured.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Nilsen on March 15, 2008, 12:58:11 PM
Things like this has happened to me too a few times. Usually when i have to reinstall AH and the buttons are not mapped correctly yet.

Im guessing the pilot had a reinstall issue.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: AquaShrimp on March 15, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
     It was in NJ btw, and it was the school's parking lot in the middle of the night AFAIK.

I remember reading that the janitor of the school actually heard the rounds hitting the school building. 
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Halo on March 15, 2008, 06:33:06 PM
(quote) On the F-16s control stick ,the trigger is used for more than one purpose.  (unquote)

a. No wonder pilot training takes so long. 

b. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, for making a trigger do more than just launch deadly projectiles, put your hands together for the new leader on the Dumbest Design Hall of Fame!

c. (Deep in underground missile control room) Now let's see, where again is that button that switches the trigger function from Start the Coffee to Launch the Nuke?  Or is it the toggle under the seat?  Do I use second finger right hand or third finger left hand?  Function L5 or R8?
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: AWMac on March 15, 2008, 08:35:06 PM
We nailed 7 Dummies on this attack!!!

Work it out in yer own State!

Mac
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: Elfie on March 15, 2008, 09:21:18 PM
Well offhand I'd say that there is a pilot, crewchief and at least one ordinance hanger that are going to be rather uncomfortable for the next several days. At least until the source of the problem is identified.

The crew chief has nothing to do with the ordinance and it would be incredibly hard to screw up the loading of a BDU-33 to the point that it accidentally dropped off the airplane in flight, in fact I'm not sure it's possible.

It was probably either pilot error or a malfunction with the aircraft itself.
Title: Re: Oaklahoma Air National Guard F-16 Bombs Tulsa Apartment Bldg
Post by: REP0MAN on March 15, 2008, 10:07:35 PM
Too bad it wasn't a live one.....that specific apartment complex could use some "cleaning".