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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Rich46yo on March 18, 2008, 04:43:44 PM
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New rules in force. AH is forcing you to pick 5, and only 5, airplanes you can use. Say you have to pick 2 fighters, 2 bombers, and 1 attack type airplane. What would you choose and why?
We can even enhance this with allowing 2 GV types per person. Which would you choose and why?
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C205.....perk farmer and it's a fun little plane
F4U4.....uh do I really need to say anything
A20......GV killer supreme and not a bad fighter
B17's....Lots of guns
Lancs...Lots of bombs
Tiger...Big Gun
Osti....Me likey
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For once a general thread that isn't totally ridiculous.
For bombers, I'd say the B-24 for its overall ability to sustain and cause damage while having he ability to protect almost every angle of itself.
Then I'd grab a B-25H as my medium bomber for its versatility.
For the the attack type a/c (which I assume is your word for a light bomber/fighter) I'd probably take a Bf110G.
For GV's I'd take an Ostwind for ack cover and a Tiger I for porkage.
For the fighters, I'd surely take a P-38J/L for its combat ability and ability to fill the attack roll very well while still being able to out-handle any fighter pretty much under 200 mph in the vertical.
And, of course, a Spitfire VIII since I'm so used to flying it as a loyal Canadian. Not going to catch anything in it in a dive, but it's tradition.
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Only 5? I choose only one anyway... The Yak. :D
<S>...-Gixer
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Bf-109E4- Perk farmer
Me-109K4- To catch the La-7s
Attacker:
P-47D40- Id rather the D-11, but it only carries one bomb. A nice dumptruck with the ability to fight like a beast afterwords.
Bombers:
B-17G- Sexiest airplane in existance. Tough, decent bomb load, great guns coverage, good high altitude bomber, and im just in love with it.
B-25C- For CV killing and pretending im Ben Affleck.
GVs:
M3- Perk farming
Tiger I: My big kitty :)
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Im a little torn between the Yak-9 and the 205 as my perk farm fighters. I really like em both. For pure fighter I'd probably go with the Spit-16. Bomber-wise it would have to be the B-17 and B-26, "tho Im real, real tempted to say KI-67". "Attack aircraft" it would probably end up being the 110-G, tho Mossie is in the running. GVs would be the M-16 and Sherman with the big Brit gun.
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Alright.....
Spit-16 (hell, may as well have the LW uber planes)
Hurricane 2c-I want to outturn anything
P-39 (when it comes out)
Lancaster(I sometimes want to bomb)
F4U (any model i love the F4U :noid)
Sherman VC-firefly
M3
I think mine are kind of noobish with the spit-16 and the 2c but I may as well have the best to fly when it first comes out. I want the P-39 so i can learn and I really like the F4U. (F4U is prolly gonna be a -1d or a -1a)
oh and are they really forcing :huh I sometimes like to fly 109s and other stuf like that.
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F4U-4 -Duh
A6M5b -so i can survive the hordes of spits
Bf 110g 2 -can pork a field and fight if you need to
B-17 -My favorite plane when i was a kid
IL-2 -Cause it's a nice way to add in a second attack plane.
Firefly -Faster than a Tiger and just about as deadly
Wirblewind -I suck half the time in the osti
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B-26 The best CV killer IMO
B-17 Flying Gunship
Spit VIII She's a sweet little bird
NIKI Yea I know Hotard but its a good multirole
P-47 D40 Plenty of punch and if you take the light gun package it turns like a pony
Tiger I sexy
Whirbelwind can you say steel rain?
:noid
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crud, I change my ostie to the Wirbelwind :rofl
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yak9u
spit8
spit16
spit14
b24
and i dont drive gvs...
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yak9u
spit8
spit16
spit14
b24
and i dont drive gvs...
Well, pick M3 and Sherman VC Firefly. Cant go wrong with them.
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fighters
FW190D- great fighter and my personal favorite
TEMPEST- In my opinion the best fighter in game, can BnZ, TnB and those 4 20's are great for buffs.
ground attack plane
P47d25 or d40- great ords load out not bad at dogfighting either.
bombers
b24-good guns and bomb load out.
lanc- bombs,lots and lots of bombs.
gv's
panzer-never got used to m4's small gunsight, not bad hitting power or armour.
tiger-my favorite tank in game, best gun, best armor.
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Fighters:
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
Attack:
P-47D-40
Bombers:
Boston
Avenger
GVs
Jeep
Only reason for the Jugs, I suck the least in those (most of the time, although I just got back after a few weeks off & I pretty much suck big time in everything)
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P-38 and a SBD.
You DO NOT need anything else.
donkey
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I wouldn't choose any and quit the game. I'm not paying $15 a month for five planes.
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Bf.109 <---Mmm mmm Good, I love the DB.605 :rock
MC.205
JU.88 <---Respectable bombload, often under estimated
Ki.67 <---Fast with a deceptively destructive 20MM turret
FW.190F <---Has a decent loadout, and can still fight
Panzer <----Hardly ever GV
Ostwind
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Attack:
SBD ------> Can do a perdy good job as a fighter too :]
Fighters:
uhh f4u1 ----->REALLY good bird
P38J --------->Doubles as attack+brilliant fighter
2 bombers???
Okay...
Bombers:
B24J ----->Does this need ANY explanation??
Lancaster III---->Uhh, I guess cause I couldn't really choose anything else and I could piss people off by making it a lancstuka :]
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La5 and Nik for fighters. Almost had to go with the yak though.
B25h and Lancs for bombers. Lancs for the big targets, b25h for killing CV's, popping LVT's etc.
Fav Gv's are the Osti and the Lvt4.
I know, the lvt4 isn't a tank, doesn't take much in the way of a hit.
But its fun to kill shore batterys, towns, fields with.
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Typhoon IB.......... It will kill any and everything below 10 thousand feet. A Pit Bull with wings...
P-51D................. Because this is the sexiest fighter aircraft ever. :aok
A-20................... It destroys GVs like no bodies business. :t
B-26................... Very accurate at medium to high altitudes.
Sherman M4......... Becuase the visibility out of other tanks really stinks. :lol
Cheers :aok
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Bomber -- P38L (Fast, climbs, 2 1k's and 10 rockets and can hit with pin point ac.)
Fighter -- P38L ( Climbs, great guns, Counter rotating props.)
Attack -- P38L (Same as above)
My 2nd choice for all the above would be an F4U, (Just hate the slow climb rate)
Nick172
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Fighters: F4U-1, F4U-1A
Bombers: F4U-1C, F4U-1D
Attack: F4U-4
My sig says it all.
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Mostly agree with Puck, but with some modifications
Fighters: F4U-1A, F4U-4
Bombers: F4U-1D, F4U-1C
Attack: F4U-1C
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Fighter: N1K2-J because it can turn great, has great guns, basically a slower tempest :). Can also carry 2 550lb bombs. cannons are great for taking towns down as there is more ammo.
Fighter: P-47D11 because it is the best turning jug, durable (i've come home with 1 aileron, both flaps missing, 1 elevator gone, 3 guns out, rudder out, and oil leak), and i just love the feel of the 8x .50cals.
Bomber: B-17G because it can take more damage than any other bomber and does the job efficently.
Bomber: B-25H because u can pick lightly armored targets (PTs, M3s, M16s, etc) off from long range, out of range for counter attack. I saw lazer land 23 kills, all PTs, in a B-25H yesterday. Also, I like its survivability and it is sort of maneuverable. HOing beast.
Attacker: P-47N because you cant go wrong with 3400 rounds of .50cal, 2x 1000lb bombs, 10x rockets, or 1x 500lb bomb. Again, survivable, fast, can df when ords are ditched.
GV: Tiger because great armor, big gun, sounds mean with ranger's sound pack. Only minus is slow turning of the turret, but if you get it around pain is going to be inflicted.
GV: Ostwind. Do i really need to explain this?
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Fighters: A6M5b for the furball,
P-47D40 as my general fighter/attacker
Attack: Mossie because it's fast, carries a decent weapons load, and 4 hizzokas. What's not to love??
Bombers: B-24 as my heavy. 8000lbs of ords, great defense, decent speed and rate of climb with 50% fuel, long range.
Ki-67 as my medium. Decent bomb load, fast as hell, 20mm dorsal gun, awsome climb rate for a bomber.
GV's: Osti Always do pretty well it.
Jeep just to run around and piss people off :D
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P-38 and a SBD.
You DO NOT need anything else.
donkey
Maybe throw in the Ju-87B and the B-25H.
ack-ack
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Fighters:
P38L
Ki61
They're both great planes. IMO, the Ki61 is one of the best planes in the game. It should turn better than it already does. When that happens, look out. P38's are just sexy airplanes.
Jabo:
F6F - I've never missed a target in this.
GV's:
Ostie/Whirblewind - I cannot wait to see what the Whirblewind is capable of.
M3
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Fighters
Poni B......will turn with a lot of planes when its light and its fast enough to keep out of the hordes.
Tempest.....my horde killer and favorite plane.
Spit 9.....for when the turn planes are every where.
Bomber
B-24......excellent all round bomber.
A-20G.....good gv killer and a rather good fighter for its size.
Ground Vehicles
WhirbleWind........deadly to anything within range.
Panzer......still the best non perked tank in my opinion.
Strip(er)
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I wouldn't choose any and quit the game. I'm not paying $15 a month for five planes.
Beat me to it. I don't restrict myself to only 5 planes a night, let alone a tour...It's the variety that sparks it for me.
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Ive seen some impressive things done in KI-61s. Things I didn't think possible. Maybe I'll spend a little time in one. The Tempest is just the biggest, baddest muscle car in the neighborhood. The JU-88 is under-rated. Its a very nice handling and versatile aircraft. Of course now the Whirlie is one of my 2 GVs. The Mossie is just a winner. Surprising you dont see it more, and more of a mission plane too.
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Fighter:
FW190A8 :rock
Spit XIV
Bomber:
Ju88
B24
Attack:
Bf110G
GV:
Pz4
Ostwind
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New rules in force. AH is forcing you to pick 5, and only 5, airplanes you can use. Say you have to pick 2 fighters, 2 bombers, and 1 attack type airplane. What would you choose and why?
We can even enhance this with allowing 2 GV types per person. Which would you choose and why?
109K4: In a non-crowded environment, when youre not rushed to land hits from less than optimal firing positions (since the other 10 friendlies on the same EAC are putting 10,000 rounds of Hispano nuts into the air every 3 seconds - and your 30mm aint much good beyond 200 yards), this one is almost unbeatable in almost every situation; advantage, disadvantage, no advantage. Vertical performance without par and the ability to accelerate to disengage and re-engage, at will. Only drawback is dive performance.
FW190A5: For the reverse situation, above - typical MA environment. Initial turn is good, speed is good, acceleration is above average, dive is above average, rate of roll is the best in the game, 2x MG151 package is perfectly adequate with 250RPG. Fast in, land hits, fast out. Always underestimated by the bad guys who often assume youll simply BnZ out to 5.0K and repeat. Great way to bleed an EAC's E in short order by making two or three quick lag roll passes and forcing them to dodge each time. Usually results in a very confused enemy who is surprised you didnt run after his dodge and just isnt sure what to do next at <200IAS. Since my gunnery sucks, slow is good. ;)
Dont know watermelon about bombers or GV's.
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ter his dodge and just isnt sure what to do next at <200IAS. Since my gunnery sucks, slow is good. ;)
But if I were to query a response from you regarding lighting cigarettes on a gas stove? Your retort would be...............? :uhoh
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But if I were to query a response from you regarding lighting cigarettes on a gas stove? Your retort would be...............? :uhoh
Well, I would probably be squeaking that I couldnt find my lighter, which is a serious problem after you get shot down. Especially in my case... and especially if alcohol is involved.
(WTF you been? Been flying again for a week, regularly, and havent seen you?)
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109K4<fighter
109G2<fighter
190A5<attack
PEE47DEE40<Bomber
Dont need anything else.
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fighter
G14
Mossie
Attack
Mossie
Bomber
B24
Mossie
GV
P38G ,alla Corky..... :pray
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109s climb like madmen. Ive made some mistakes trying to climb against them. +++ there are some very good sticks in 109s as it typically isnt something a noob takes out. The K4 is also deceptively fast. Ive had a few behind me in LAs and I thought I was safe enough to stretch out to re-engage and before I knew it the thing was breathing down my neck. Ive been meaning to spend some time in Luftwaffe but there are only so many hours a day.
I can understand trying to sneak in the P-47-D-40 as a bomber. Its my favorite Jug varient and a real winner. I love seeing about 20 of them diving on an airfield.
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I don't really bomb or gv so my top 5 will be all fighters.
1) Spit 9 - excellent fighter and taken for granted because it isn't a Spit 16
2) P51D - Love the speed and it can be turn fought fairly well for a typically BnZ plane.
3) Tempest - Great for fighting in outnumbered areas and BnZ
4) Hurricane - Best base defender against cv planes.
5) P38 (any model) - Nice plane even though I can't fly it for crap
If you force me to fly bombers then I would choose B17.
Gv's I use the panzer and osti even though I don't think I have gv'd in months.
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Spazz
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F6F-5: Does CV ops, mid and late war MAs. Good for jaboing, climbs OK when heavy. Great turnfighter and deflection shooter, lots of ammo, tough. Excellent rudder authority, good for making bnzers overshoot.
F4U-1: For the rare occasions when I'm ENY'd out of the F6F.
F4F-4: For when there is actually someone other than milkrunners in the EW MA.
Ju 88: I like torpedo bombing, yes I know it is suicide.
TBM: As above.
Not really interested in GVs.
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Fighters:
P47D-11
C205
Bombers:
B24
Ki67
Attack:
P47D-40
GVs:
Panzer
Wirblewind
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f4u-1a
tempest
b-17
lank
a-20
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Bf.109G14
Bf.109G2
Bf.109F4
Fw.190A5
Ju.88A4
TigerI
Wirbelwind
:rock
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Well, I would probably be itching that I couldnt find my lighter, which is a serious problem after you get shot down. Especially in my case... and especially if alcohol is involved.
(WTF you been? Been flying again for a week, regularly, and havent seen you?)
I'll be on tonight. Needed a couple days break. Been in there all last week up until Fri. night.
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spit14: My fave fighter and she seems to handle high and low alt fights for me rather well. It is fast, dives well, turns well for me, has .50cals and the good ol 20mm hispanos.
typhoon: One of my favorite ground attack planes. the 2 1000ks can make short work of tanks and the 20mm hispanos work wonders on planes.
IL2: Has recently become of my faves. Dogfights well enough for me, can kill most GVs with cannon alone and the ords can outright kill all but tigers it seems.
HurricaneIIc: Excellent for turn fighting, has enough ord to kill most GVs and those lovable 20mm hispanos.
P51D: It serves me well in as both a fighter and ground attacker and as I fly it more the more I enjoy it.
Tiger------my favorite tank, it means business, many times it can 1 shot kill foes at even long range, can take a few hits sometimes and has a great climb rate to get to those nice perches. Also looks like a tough tank, especially in black.
Firefly------get my vote as fave due to quickness of the turret to swing on to target in comparison to Tigers and of course the power of the gun, in some ways it seems more powerful than the Tigers 88mm.
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190A8
190F8 (attack)
P47D40 (attack or Escort) (F4U1D for CV ops)
Lancaster
B17
Panzer
Ostie (although maybe the new flak?)
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P-47-D-25
The only plane you'll ever need.
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Fighters:
P-47D-11
F4U4
Attack:
F6F-5
Bombers:
b17
b26
GVs
Gimmie my PT Boat! :rock
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Fighters:
Ki-84-I-Ko Hayate "Frank"
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Attack:
Mosquito FB.Mk VI
Bomber:
B-17G Flying Fortress
Ki-67-I-Otsu Hiryu "Peggy"
Vehicle:
M8 Greyhound
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Bf 110 G2 plenty of cannon to take down towns and decent fighter in the right hands.
Ju 88 nice range and bomb load for a medium bomber can sink CV's as well and nimble
Hurricane 11 C both good dogfighter and attack plane
F6F 5 same as above plus you gotta love those 2 1000ib bombs for Tigers
A 20 G decent dogfighter in right hands ( Cobia, Snaphook), plenty of 50 cal and carries 8 500lb bombs
No Spits, La's or P 38"s :rock
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I love the Jugs but have the worst luck in them. Im tellingya Im cursed. For instance I climbed up to 16,000' the other day with a full bomb load to whack out the ords at an elevated base that was killing us. I flew over a strat and heard a noise of ack hitting the plane. I didnt even need to check cause I knew it was the main fuel tank. I'll bet 8 out of 10 times I fly Jugs I get the fuel tank hit. I dont know what gives cause Jugs had self sealing tanks just like Ponies.
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Let's say you are responsible for picking the planes your country would use in a real WWII setting. You get to pick 5 aircraft, they perform in real life just how they do in Aces High, and whichever 5 you pick, you will get the same number of them (i.e., cost and supply is no object). But -- what you pick will have to work against whatever the enemy develops in tactics, whatever aircraft they end up having, and for different theaters (perhaps some where the fighting is down low, some where the fighting is up high, some where range isn't all that critical, some where range is important, etc.). In other words, you are going to war with those 5 planes, and the war situation can move around and change during its course -- but you are the guy responsible for picking what planes your country will have throughout.
What then would you pick?
I think I'd pick:
P-47N or P-51D (for fighter and fighter-bomber)
F4U-1D (for fighter, fighter-bomber, and from carriers)
B-24 (for heavy bombing)
B-25H (with cannon, for ground attack and anti-gv role)
5th plane -- not sure (Spit 16? La-7? Bf 109K-4? Something that would turnfight and climb well? Or Mossie? Or something with really long range from CV such as a Zero or B5N?)
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BF 109 G2 for fun
BF 109 K for killing
A20 Attack
B25H
B25C
Whirblewind
M 16
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P38G
P38J
B25C
B25H
A20
Twin engine all the way :)
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F4F4........F4U1-C......Bf110g2.......B17g.........JU88
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Heh...
P38G
B24
F4U4
A20
109E
GVs?
Tiger, M4
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If you guys were outfitting your real-life air forces:
Gremlin: What about range? What about heavy bombing?
Guppy: Yep -- was thinking about the P-38 angle myself, too. What about heavy bombing for your air forces, and what CV plane would you pick?
SpikesX: F4U-4 is perked -- would you use the F4U-1D then?
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Ta152 with 20mm, aft tank, and GM1 removed.
B25H
Tiger.
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SpikesX: F4U-4 is perked -- would you use the F4U-1D then?
Who said we can't fly perk planes? :D
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Fighters:
109g2
190a5
190d9
109k4
bombers:
190f8
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Fighter:
Mossie, Light, 25% gas for base defense
Attack:
Mossie, 4 500lbs, 50% gas get you 2 sectors there and back with 15 mins cap time.
Mossie, 8 rockets, 2 500lbs, great for de-acking
Bomber:
Mossie, 4 500lbs, 75% gas, gets you anywhere you need to go and back again. Best defensive bomber in the game.
GV
Wobbly. Cause its got 4 20mm cannons too.
I know... predictable.
:P
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Fighters
FW190-A8 Lots of guns and fast
F4U-1A I seem to have more success in this model for some reason
NIKI Agile and lots of guns
Bomber
lancs Bomb loadout
GV
Wirbelwind I'm a killer shot in this ride
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I'm conveniently pretending that I did not see any posts about what types of aircraft I have to pick.
A-20G
Mosquito
Spitfire Mk I
Spitfire Mk XVI
P-47D-11
And since at least two of those will probably get shot down, I will therefore give myself two more aircraft:
B-17G
P-51D
And as for GVs,
Elco 80' PT boat
Jeep
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Fighters:
F4U-1A
P47-D11
Attack:
Mosquito
Bomber:
A-20
Ground:
Wirbelwind
:aok
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Fighters
Fw190-D9 I just love this plane
Bf109-G2 This is my backup when I'm not doing well with the above
Attack
Mossie
Bombers
B-24 good survivability and large loadout
Ar-234 decent loadout and great survivability
Gv
Tiger
P-47 who said tanks couldn't fly
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hmm, pick 5....
fighters:
yak9u......just dang fun 2 fly
hurricane 1......lotta guns :aok
bombers:
b-24.....good med-high alt bomber/decent bomb load
lancaster III.....lots of GOOD bombs, and easy to fly
gv's:
jeep.....i just plain LOVE jeeps, fast, fun to drive, good scout :rock
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P-47D-40
A6m (either 1)
Fm-2
F4F
P-38J
-BigBOBCH