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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: h338 on March 18, 2008, 11:31:32 PM
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the british meteor jet would be cool :D
sure it was there the last two months of the war and it will probably never get into acs high buyt it would be cool
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did it see squadron strength? someone look this up. For all we know, it may have the requirements to get into AH
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did it see squadron strength? someone look this up. For all we know, it may have the requirements to get into AH
Yes. Entered service in June 1944, operational debut in july, and during 1945 there were a squadron of Mk.III's that were actually based on the continent and were part of the 2nd TAF. Although they couldnt find any LW aircraft in the air to fight with, they did destroy ground targets.
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the british meteor jet would be cool :D
sure it was there the last two months of the war and it will probably never get into acs high buyt it would be cool
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Bwaaa Haaa Haaa, you took the works right outta my mouth. Since when was beingCOOL been part of the aircraft inclusion requirements for this sim? :rofl
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Since when was beingCOOL been part of the aircraft inclusion requirements for this sim? :rofl
This is sig material. :aok
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Bwaaa Haaa Haaa, you took the works right outta my mouth. Since when was beingCOOL been part of the aircraft inclusion requirements for this sim? :rofl
Read all the "I want" threads. Youll find that 9 out of 10 have the line "cuz it wood b cool".
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still It would be cool to have!
1. Its British
2. its a perk jet other than German
3. Furball said so
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why? the 262 is better! 4x 20mms vs 4x 30mms. Who's gonna win?
Meteor: Maximum speed: Mach 0.71, 410 mph at 10,000 ft (660 km/h at 3,050 m)
262: Maximum speed: 541 mph (870 km/h)
Meteor: 4 x 20 mm British Hispano cannons
262: 4x 30 mm MK 108 cannons
Meteor: Range: 500 mi (800 km)
262: Range: 652 mi (1,050 km)
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would be kool for variety, but i know i wouldnt fly it either, the perk cost would be too high, and i'm playing this game to NOT fly jets... i much prefer spits and p-38s and mossies... speaking of which, un-perk the spit14!
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it wuyd stil bee coolz.
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How about we let HTC finish the new version which might contain CT.
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Larry: You'll find that 9 out of 10 of those threads thats say "It would be cool" are all the same posters. :D
Pannono:
why? the 262 is better! 4x 20mms vs 4x 30mms. Who's gonna win?
Meteor: Maximum speed: Mach 0.71, 410 mph at 10,000 ft (660 km/h at 3,050 m)
262: Maximum speed: 541 mph (870 km/h)
Meteor: 4 x 20 mm British Hispano cannons
262: 4x 30 mm MK 108 cannons
Meteor: Range: 500 mi (800 km)
262: Range: 652 mi (1,050 km)
The Meteor's 4x Hispanos would be LIGHT years ahead of the 30mm crap cannons on the 262. 99% of the time I fire the 262 guns I miss despite having a perfect shot lined up. I'm not new to 30mm. I do well with 109s, 152s, 190a8s (with 30mm outboard), but on the 262 they're just porked.
You speeds are misleading. The 262's top speed is at 20-25k, so listing the speed of the Meteor at 10k is going to make it look pathetic. The Meteor was slower than the 262, but it was MUCH more manuverable, able to hold its own against spitfires in some tests.
So, quad hispano punch, nimble plane, can actually DOGFIGHT (262 can't claim that!) and it's a high-speed jet. Yeah, you'd be a fool to fly the 262 if this plane was available.
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This is sig material. :aok
Thanks, Im glad you like it. :salute
but it is true, I have seen soo many threads that ask for vehicles/aircraft based on their "cool factor". :D
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Pannono:
The Meteor's 4x Hispanos would be LIGHT years ahead of the 30mm crap cannons on the 262. 99% of the time I fire the 262 guns I miss despite having a perfect shot lined up. I'm not new to 30mm. I do well with 109s, 152s, 190a8s (with 30mm outboard), but on the 262 they're just porked.
So... because you miss with the cannons in the 262 they must be wrong. :lol
Sorry for the hijack, i will be quiet now.
IIRC correctly the Meteor III was superior to the Tempest V in all respects in a flight test, IMO it would be a less hardcore version of the 262 which would be easier for the majority of the AH community to fly and fight in. The 262 takes some getting used to in order to get the best out of it. The Meteor would be a great inbetween.
PS. It is cool.
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http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,176877.0.html
(http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit14speedchart.jpg)
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This plane would be frikin sweet. fun fights with Me 262 :aok
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well it meets the requirements for it.
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imsure it would...it would be a nice jet that wouldnt cost as much as the 262...ill run it by skuzzy
glad you guys are psyched about this idea :D :D :rock
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I forget where I read it but, I rember reading that the Tempest was faster in actual operation due to the speed restrictions imposed upon the Meteor, due to problems with it's control surfaces. At high speeds the Meteor controls become unresponsive even in level flight. It was nicknamed "the meat box" because once the pilot exceeded a certain speed the controls no longer functioned and he became a peice of meat going for a wild ride.
All we would be getting with the meteor is a slower, less maueverable, Tempest with lesser acceleration and propbably worse climb rate.
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I have never heard that.
If that was true it would never have caught a V1.
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did it see squadron strength? someone look this up. For all we know, it may have the requirements to get into AH
yes it had 2 squads for anti V1 Squads.
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After a quick search this is the info I found. Sorry if its hard to read but its translated from dutch.
"The first seriemachine, one of 20 Gloster G.41A Meteor F.Mk.I 's, flew in January 1944. The British exchanged with the Americans for a Bell YP-59A Airacomet. Neither side will be impressed have been: the American jet was still slower than the Meteor I, which is only 670 km / h fetched. The Me 262 was 200 mph faster!"
from:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://home.tiscali.nl/vliegmachines/Meteor1.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dglocester%2Bmeteor%2Bmeatbox%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff
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With some more searching I found some stats on the F MK.III, the latest model to see service.
Engine: Two Derwent I or Derwent IV engines
Thrust: 2,000lb (Derwent I) or 2,400lb (Derwent IV)
Span: 43ft
Length: 41.4ft
Gross Weight: 13,342lb
Maximum level speed at sea level: 486mph
Maximum level speed at 30,000ft: 493mph
Rate of climb at sea level: 3,980ft/ min
Ceiling: 46,000ft
Cruise Range at normal load: 504 miles
Armament: Four 20mm cannon in nose and two 1,000lb bombs or sixteen 90lb rocket projectiles under the wings
but, those numbers are for the model with the Derwent IV engines, some of the MK. III's had other engines.
"The F Mk.III was powered by three different engines. The Derwent I was not ready in time to be used on the first fifteen aircraft, and so they were given W.2B/23c Wellands. The majority were equipped with the Derwent I. Finally, a number of aircraft were given 2,400lb Derwent IV engines. The published performance statistics for the F Mk.III are normally for this version. The last fifteen F Mk.IIIs were given the longer engine nacelles used on the Mk.4, while a number of aircraft were retrofitted with these nacelles, which increased the top speed of the aircraft."
The first 15 aircraft with the W.2B/23c Wellands had a top speed of 465 at 16,000 feet.
I was wrong about the control problems. Those problems occured on the MK. VIII model, However all of the models were known to have sluggish and "heavy" controls. Also the aircraft would compress at lower speeds than the 262 and even some piston engine fighters.
all info camr from: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_III.html
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With some more searching I found some stats on the F MK.III, the latest model to see service.
Engine: Two Derwent I or Derwent IV engines
Thrust: 2,000lb (Derwent I) or 2,400lb (Derwent IV)
Span: 43ft
Length: 41.4ft
Gross Weight: 13,342lb
Maximum level speed at sea level: 486mph
Maximum level speed at 30,000ft: 493mph
Rate of climb at sea level: 3,980ft/ min
Ceiling: 46,000ft
Cruise Range at normal load: 504 miles
Armament: Four 20mm cannon in nose and two 1,000lb bombs or sixteen 90lb rocket projectiles under the wings
but, those numbers are for the model with the Derwent IV engines, some of the MK. III's had other engines.
"The F Mk.III was powered by three different engines. The Derwent I was not ready in time to be used on the first fifteen aircraft, and so they were given W.2B/23c Wellands. The majority were equipped with the Derwent I. Finally, a number of aircraft were given 2,400lb Derwent IV engines. The published performance statistics for the F Mk.III are normally for this version. The last fifteen F Mk.IIIs were given the longer engine nacelles used on the Mk.4, while a number of aircraft were retrofitted with these nacelles, which increased the top speed of the aircraft."
The first 15 aircraft with the W.2B/23c Wellands had a top speed of 465 at 16,000 feet.
I was wrong about the control problems. Those problems occured on the MK. VIII model, However all of the models were known to have sluggish and "heavy" controls. Also the aircraft would compress at lower speeds than the 262 and even some piston engine fighters.
all info camr from: http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_gloster_meteor_III.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,176877.0.html
(http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit14speedchart.jpg)
Derwent II's, and if you look above, the sluggish controls refer to the ailerons. Not a big problem imo, can get over that in AH with rudder.
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Since when was beingCOOL been part of the aircraft inclusion requirements for this sim? :rofl
If it was part of the aircraft inclusion requirements, we'd already have the F-14, F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-22, and the B-52! :rofl
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The requirement is usually if it is an american plane it gets in, so those are valid suggestions ;) :devil
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The requirement is usually if it is an american plane it gets in, so those are valid suggestions ;) :devil
You're basing this off of the P-39 right? I killed a Pnzr in one earlier today. I just aimed the 37mm at the back of the tank/turret. Killed it. Not too hard, it did it's job well.