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Title: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: LYNX on March 20, 2008, 12:54:19 AM
After reading the "read me".

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Made some minor handling changes to the La-5 and La-7 flight modeling, performance was not changed.

I'm left pondering what the actual effect is.  Anyone care to shed some light ?  It's still pink...right ?
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: SunBat on March 20, 2008, 06:38:46 AM
They added heat seeking bullets that are more effective from the front than behind and after-burners that automatically enable after you've flown past a target from the front and fired at least 100 rounds.  Those changes made it a brighter, prettier shade of pink.   :D

Really, I flew the 7. I didn't notice anything different.  I'm not a big LA expert though.  The max speed at which flaps are available may be lower now, but I could be imagining that.  The cockpit and the new modeling job is really nice.

Oh yeah, it has a special sensor in the cockpit that makes sure your flight suit is color coordinated and you are wearing fashionable shoes.  Don't even try to talk over range without a lisp or the new ejection seat flings ya out of the cockpit (but only after giving your bottom a little pinch)....   :lol
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 20, 2008, 06:47:06 AM
it seems a bit stiffer on the controlls, other than that i really couldent tell the diff.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Ghosth on March 20, 2008, 07:08:42 AM
Couldn't tell any real difference in how it flew. Ground handling perhaps?
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: mussie on March 20, 2008, 07:29:58 AM
Couldn't tell any real difference in how it flew. Ground handling perhaps?

Well considering how many get noob augered that might be a good thing lol
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: 1Boner on March 20, 2008, 08:37:23 AM
I didn't really notice any difference in performance or handling.

Roll rate a little slower maybe?

Although the acceleration seemed sluggish, Im sure it was just the Capt. Morgan effect.

Or was it? :noid

I loved the overall look of the plane and cockpit.

However, the altimeter is partially blocked by some type of large red handhold or something.(not sure what it is)

Not that it really matters, as it is usually spinning backwards rather quickly as I plunge in flames to my untimely demise.



Great Job HTC !!!



Your Pal,

Boner

 
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Tilt on March 20, 2008, 08:40:40 AM

However, the altimeter is partially blocked by some type of large red handhold or something.(not sure what it is)
 

Its for manually clearing the breach on the 3rd cannon............. take up the 2 cannon bird and you can see the altimeter more clearly
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: dhyran on March 20, 2008, 08:46:52 AM
i found it a bit slower in rolls, E bleeding on loops also a bit more, looks great now
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Grits on March 20, 2008, 08:53:18 AM
The La5 has much worse slow turn rate than I remember, but it has been a long time since I flew one.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: SkyRock on March 20, 2008, 09:45:42 AM
The La5 has much worse slow turn rate than I remember, but it has been a long time since I flew one.
I agree, the la's are more unstable at low speeds, which would seem more accurate given their small wings.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: themaj on March 20, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
Don't know if they were there before, but la7 has operating slats now.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Krusty on March 20, 2008, 10:25:12 AM
It did before as well, if I recall.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: shreck on March 20, 2008, 10:57:50 AM
I found the the plane the same although the cockpit airspeed indicator showing 100+ mph too low, this may explain all the augering  :rofl
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Tilt on March 20, 2008, 11:24:35 AM
Shows how much I know...................

I found it more stable if anything............... particularly in hard e bleeding turns. Stall recovery is to the manual ( cut throttle push stick forward no rudder) it comes straight out of stall.

Roll rate may be very slightly less now..............

The incorrect speedo may be decieving me but I felt that the accel under non WEP was worse.

All this is as it should be IMO

I hung onto a Ki 84's tail (for all the pilots evasives) last night in the La5FN ............ anecdotal I know but not something I could bank on before
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Oldman731 on March 20, 2008, 11:44:34 AM
I found the the plane the same

Me, too.  Didn't notice any meaningful difference(s).

- oldman
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Saurdaukar on March 20, 2008, 12:06:17 PM

Although the acceleration seemed sluggish, Im sure it was just the Capt. Morgan effect.

Or was it? :noid

I noticed this too.  Not a huge La7 expert - but slow speed acceleration seemed reduced, significantly.

Maybe the new "body" is affected by airflow differently?
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Xasthur on March 20, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
I flew one offline for a bit.. Haven't flown one for ages.

Regardless of any changes it's still a frigging monster of an aircraft.

Both the La7 and 5FN are very fast and nimble.

Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Stoney on March 20, 2008, 12:28:43 PM
I agree, the la's are more unstable at low speeds, which would seem more accurate given their small wings.

What does "small wings" have to do with stability?  Perhaps HTC can define exactly what the changes were for us?
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 20, 2008, 12:33:00 PM
well hell i thought the new la7 turned about 5 times better. and the flaps are easier to get out. but thats just me.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: eh on March 20, 2008, 01:25:10 PM
It's unwaxed.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Ratnick on March 20, 2008, 02:04:51 PM
That does it! It's ruined and completely unflyable now! Someone removed the bottle of Vodka!
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 20, 2008, 02:56:33 PM
That does it! It's ruined and completely unflyable now! Someone removed the bottle of Vodka!

Someone was crying last night about how "porked" the La-7 is now because he couldn't out run another La-7 and demenaded HiTech fix it or he'd cancel his account.   :rolleyes:


ack-ack
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Shuffler on March 20, 2008, 03:01:37 PM
What does "small wings" have to do with stability?  Perhaps HTC can define exactly what the changes were for us?

Wing loading....
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Lumpy on March 23, 2008, 12:19:37 AM
The La-7 has a wing loading of 38.8 lbs/ft^2. Compare that to the F4U-1D at 38.7 lbs/ft^2, the 109G-6 at 40.0 lbs^2 or the Spit16 at 35.1 lbs/ft^2. (All at "normal loaded weight")

The La-7 does not have small wings for its weight. You're just being fooled by the fat fuselage.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: crockett on March 23, 2008, 01:29:06 AM
The La5 has much worse slow turn rate than I remember, but it has been a long time since I flew one.

Yea I don't fly the 7 much unless it's to bust up a quick raid, so I can't say much about the 7. The 5 on the other hand seems a bit less responsive and doesn't seem to pull out of dives as good as the old one. I augured one the other day, that I swear I should have been able to pull out. It just seems more sluggish than it used to be, which is fine by me.
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Anaxogoras on March 23, 2008, 04:13:53 AM
Keep in mind, gentlemen, that all of the above culprits have admitted to flying the La-7. ;)
Title: Re: La-5 and La-7 flight modeling changed
Post by: Elfie on March 23, 2008, 04:53:07 AM
Someone was crying last night about how "porked" the La-7 is now because he couldn't out run another La-7 and demenaded HiTech fix it or he'd cancel his account.   :rolleyes:


ack-ack

Thats funny AND sad at the same time.  :rock