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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: LLogann on March 23, 2008, 08:50:27 PM
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I'm sure this has been covered but really....... With all the great code HTC provides, how is it you end sortie at an ammo bunker, on your on base, and it's a ditch.
It's just stupid. And as development goes, it aint a hard fix........
So?
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Put it on the runway or no name in lights for joo. :aok
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This won't be put in, because it is a chain...
HTC would allow landings anywhere on field
people whine they ditch 2 feet off runway
HTC would allow landings 5 feet off runway
people would whine when they ditch 20 feet off the runway
Chain reaction, eh?
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Sorry.... I didn't specify...... GV's
And to further this...... I rolled up to an ammo bunker with no engine, right up against it. THAT is still a ditch.
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Used to be anywhere on concrete, were there any enemies near?
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Enemy code should not make a difference. But... Yes there was. No, nobody got a proxy on it.
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:cry :cry :cry a whine has been recorded
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The chain reaction arguement is fair enough... People will always whine.
I still think that the airfield boundary should be the cut off-line, but whatever... it's all good.
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Just for the sake of conversation here. Yeah it definetly sucks if you stop just short of concrete (especially the runway) and it is ditch, it sucks and should the airfield it self should be ''land successful' point. I haven't had my name in lights on endless times because of stopping short as i'm sure we all have. I just say in country chat 'that sucked, just short of runway' then up in another plane. You still get credit for the kills anyway :aok
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Enemy code should not make a difference. But... Yes there was. No, nobody got a proxy on it.
It should and it do. In GV you are safe to land anywhere (even close to enemy base) unless there are enimies around or your vehicle got hits before (not necessarily damaged). Reasons are quite obvious.
Sometimes it dont work though (or there are more conditions i dont aware about), so better land on concrete and be sure you stop completely.
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I'm pretty sure it works the same way on base as it does on base regarding enemy, but don't quote me on that. Unless you're on the runway when an enemy is around it's not a successful landing. Frustrating, sure, just take the 30 seconds to rumble onto the runway to land. You can e mail HTC and ask if you want. support@hitechcreations.com
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Spats on da flahr and says "Dem Rules is Rules!"
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Park it on the asphalt. Everyone plays by the same rules. :cry
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I think the modeling stands up to basically what they actualy did in real life. Most pilots would make every effort to get there plane home or as close to home as possible. To far from home you risked capture, within friendly area good chance you'd be rescued or bail sucessfully. I kind of agree that it would be nice to have like a large invisible square around the base were any wheels down/undamaged aircraft/gv landing would be successful but then again i do agree that people would start whining that the square wasn't big enough. I actually like the challenge of bringing in a wounded bird/gv and trying to get it onto the runway or any concrete i can. Think of this, your on your bombing attack dive to kill a running tiger, he knows your going to drop and more than likely kill him before he can get to concrete but he knows that he is within the base perimeter. He bails, gets successful bail and saves perks. Think there'd be any whineing over that?
AKsleepy
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I'll tell ya what sucks, spawn a tiger to enemy base,look at map and realise you're at the wrong spawn, end sortie and lose the perk points DOH! I've even given proxies that was too :lol
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I agree there should be a safe landing zone anywhere within the base limits use the base deminsions as it shows on the maps. However if this area is to large it can be adjusted accordingly. Ive bailed out just off a friendly base and been considered captured now thats a drag.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd45/smokey23_photos/base1.jpg)
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This won't be put in, because it is a chain...
HTC would allow landings anywhere on field
people whine they ditch 2 feet off runway
HTC would allow landings 5 feet off runway
people would whine when they ditch 20 feet off the runway
Chain reaction, eh?
No, it would not have to be. Honestly it is mighty stupid to roll on the grass and get a ditch while you are inside the base :furious
What is ditch?
A forced landing, a belly landing, an emergency landing. Not a perfect landing on grass some feet a way from the runway.
They could put a fence around the base, like there often was in RL. That could be the perimeter and line between landing and ditching. Even then, I would personally call wheels up landings, even inside the base area, ditches.
If the wheels are down and one is inside the perimeter, the only "landed succesfully" :rock
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Here's the issue with your boxes and such, you have to draw the line at some point, people will always be wanting it to expand just a little bit more, and a little bit more. HTC settled this by putting their foot down and saying, "ON THE RUNWAY OR NOTHING!"
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I still think that the airfield boundary should be the cut off-line, but whatever... it's all good.
I'm sure it was that way a few years ago... I could be wrong tho, was once before :D
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Here's the issue with your boxes and such, you have to draw the line at some point, people will always be wanting it to expand just a little bit more, and a little bit more. HTC settled this by putting their foot down and saying, "ON THE RUNWAY OR NOTHING!"
That "if they get this they want more" attitude is pure BS.. maybe HTC just did not consider it any further than what was easy to do at that point. There is nothing wrong in wishing changes or making changes that make sense.
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:cry :cry :cry a whine has been recorded
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl where you been uptown i miss fighting you in my pony
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Here's the issue with your boxes and such, you have to draw the line at some point, people will always be wanting it to expand just a little bit more, and a little bit more. HTC settled this by putting their foot down and saying, "ON THE RUNWAY OR NOTHING!"
thats just it dont expand or shrink it just make it the size of the box around the base no bigger no smaller doesnt have to be complicated. Let them whine about makein it bigger most would be happy just to get it the size of the box around the base.
again its just preachin to the choir
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Llogan has a point...
IMHO if you stop an aircraft or vehicle within the perimeter (the flat area that defines a base) of any base (Air, Vehicle or Port) it should not be recorded as a "ditch".
In WW2 if you made it back to base and walked away, it was a successful landing.
My primary flight instructor was fond of saying that "any landing you can walk away from is a successful landing.
My 2 cents
:salute
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A lot of people had problems making the switch from Air Warrior to Aces High on this issue.
Back on Air Warrior, landing anywhere on the airfield was a successful landing. If you bailed out over your own airfield it was a successful landing.
Not here.
What we REALLY need is the actual paramiters on what a successful landing in a gv is. I don't even bother to take Tigers up anymore, I always take them back to the spawn point and I always get a "You have ditched".
ROX
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What we REALLY need is the actual paramiters on what a successful landing in a gv is. I don't even bother to take Tigers up anymore, I always take them back to the spawn point and I always get a "You have ditched".
Because the Spawn Point has not anything to do with save landings. It's just a point where you spawn, not a landing zone.
In enemy territory, you can land everywhere as long as A) no enemy is around and b) you are not damaged.
In friendly territory, landing on concrete always ensures a safe landing (unless you are still moving). If undamaged yet, you will get a ditch if you are not on concrete and there are any enemies are around.
Personally, I consider any GV im in as lost when spawning to an enemy base. The chances to get back alive are pretty slim unless it's offpeak hours and no defenders show up, or we capture that base.
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I think it is funny, both ways.
It is funny that people complain so match about something they knew was there while coming in for a landing. I mean comon, so your name was not in lites one time.
At the same time, it is funny that HT picked to draw the line where he did and refuses to make it anywhere in the base using the "they will ask for more" logic. So what if they did? They whine now don;t they? :rofl
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Dont hold your breath, guys.
And the real answere for why it is not changing.
Landing is suppose to be a goal, wanting to survive and make it back to base, and acctualy land on the runway is suppose to be a challeng. Making the area bigger just dimishises the reward for accomplishing a task. So those requesting bigger areas, are you saying you suck so bad , you can't even land your plane on a runway?