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Title: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 03:20:22 AM
i hope not.

but i'm just not sure of mccain.

what do i do?

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Xargos on March 28, 2008, 03:22:40 AM
I won't vote for either one of them.  I'd just write in someone if I was aloud to in my state.
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Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 03:29:11 AM
I'm pretty confident McCain will win in a landslide. Altho he has lost a lot of appeal since 2000 (because he became a Bush bootlicker) I still like his bipartisan approach and his more than impressive war record. I know, I'm old school, but I still respect a man's service to his country over party loyalty, the main reason I hated Bush to start with. Poser at best. I still think Dan Rather was on the right track. Forgive me for the hijack that will ensue.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 03:30:42 AM
he was. 

that he cowered tho.  well, that speaks of dan rather.

so much for "courage".




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Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 03:34:20 AM
agreed.
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Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 03:42:02 AM
If's its not "Barack" don't fix it.

 :lol

Mac
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 03:51:01 AM
Given the choice between Barak and Hillary, I chose Barack. Come November, no way I can back him unless something dramaticly changes, like McCain picking an ultra-conservative for veep. At his age there's no gaurentee he'll serve out his term.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 03:53:02 AM
good point. 

the term.

so who's the humdinger?
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 03:55:12 AM
That is the $64 question.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 03:57:07 AM
aint it tho.

big friggin question.

(pardon my circumvention of the language filter sirs)

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:08:56 AM
I think a better question is; Which Apollo astronaut, living or dead, would make the best president?  I'd vote for Lovell.  He spent 2 weeks with Frank Borman in a gemini capsule (no problem with same sex issues) and rode a broken spacecraft to the moon and back (can handle crisis situations).  Win/win in my book.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:10:04 AM
ya.  but where does he stand?

i think the old astronaut road leads to the andropov soviet collapse mode. 

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:12:03 AM
Seems Texas loves Osama.

No problem, Okies have a firm watch on the Northern banks of the Red River.

Mac
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:12:49 AM
Doesn't matter where he stands, he's an Apollo vet.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:13:37 AM
disagree entirely.

rank is a non issue.  at least to me.


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Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:14:44 AM
Apollo isn't a rank, it's a symbol of uber greatness. 
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Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:14:58 AM
John Glenn.

 :aok

Mac
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Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:17:12 AM
Glenn wasn't Apollo, yo.   :huh
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Post by: Arlo on March 28, 2008, 04:19:46 AM
I think a better question is; Which Apollo astronaut, living or dead, would make the best president?  I'd vote for Lovell.  He spent 2 weeks with Frank Borman in a gemini capsule (no problem with same sex issues) and rode a broken spacecraft to the moon and back (can handle crisis situations).  Win/win in my book.

Yaknow. I'm onboard, man.  :D :aok
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 04:19:54 AM
Seems Texas loves Osama.

No problem, Okies have a firm watch on the Northern banks of the Red River.

Mac
Which part of your butt did you pull that out of? Hillary won Texas in the primary.

Lovel would be an excellent POTUS. Only problem is he's 80.

I'd like to see Wesley Clark or Colin Powell.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:20:44 AM
again.  an interesting statement rp.

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Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:23:31 AM
Glenn wasn't Apollo, yo.   :huh

If I throw you a Friebee can you catch it in yer mouth?

John Glenn was MORE than Apollo.

Sheesh Texans.

Mac
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:24:34 AM
shakes hand.

glenn turns to dust.

no.

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 04:29:00 AM
Did'nt Glenn turn out to have a tinge of  Randy Cunningham?
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Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:30:56 AM
glen was the fonz.  pat boone style.
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Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:33:05 AM
I think he means Richie Cunningham.

Ain't that right, Potsie?
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Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:34:20 AM
I guess if it doesn't fly from DFW Texans are lost.

Mac
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Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:34:28 AM
ayyyyyyyye.

loved that t-shirt.

someone got rich on that one.

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: rpm on March 28, 2008, 04:36:54 AM
Ya know, Pat Boone turned out to be kinda hip in his later years.
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/76003.jpg)
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:48:48 AM
"kinda" being the operative term.

 :cool:
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Post by: DiabloTX on March 28, 2008, 04:50:02 AM
Bee da be da dee doooo...

Sitting on a park bench...
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: JB88 on March 28, 2008, 04:51:19 AM
Bee da be da dee doooo...

Sitting on a park bench...

gong.

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Charon on March 28, 2008, 09:26:43 AM
The Democrats are actively self destructing as we speak.

The current Republican party is not remotely conservative (at least in the right ways), has been too long under the sway of that terrible neoconservative philosophy, has fielded IMO, the worst president of modern times and generally has as many political hacks and tools on its dole as the Democrats. But, the Democrats really can't seem to pull off a winning campaign to save their lives. You hand them a clean layup to win the game and they blow it on a slam dunk attempt.

What's funny is that after years of providing lip service to minority and gender rights and simply counting on lesser of two evil voting among these segments, the democrats have finally fielded a two finalist candidates that cancel each other out in those areas and do so in an increasingly divisive manner.

The real Obama we know and love in Illinois (let me count the ways, Todd Stroger endorser) is starting to come out nationally, and the Hillery we all know and love is, if anything, even more arrogant and shrill. McCain would really have to self destruct to blow this one, IMO.

Charon
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Airhead on March 28, 2008, 09:42:30 AM
No...Obama has no chance, even if he wins every State primary leading up to the convention. It will be McCain vs Clinton, just as I predicted in 2003, with McCain winning easily, helped in large part by Dems like myself who can't stand the arrogance and dirty politics the Clintons have resorted to.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Chairboy on March 28, 2008, 09:49:40 AM
Barack Obama has 40% of the delegate/superdelegate count, Clinton currently has 37%.  Seems like a pretty close race right now and certainly too close to call with the certainty you have, where do you get 'no chance' from, Airhead?  Am I missing something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_2008

Thanks!
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2008, 09:55:12 AM

No problem, Okies have a firm watch on the Northern banks of the Red River.

Mac

As well you should.
We`re coming any day now.
We are looking for a good place for a new landfill.



:)
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Airhead on March 28, 2008, 10:01:27 AM
Chairboy, just watch what happens at the convention- the difference between the Democratic and Republican primaries is the Republicans put their guy up against nut burgers like Huckabee to make him look more centerist, but we've known McCain has a lock on his party's nomination as pay back for backing off on challanging Bush in 2003, and there was really no serious challange to him this primary season.

The Dems, however, operate under the guise of a free primary but when it comes right down to it their canditate is chosen from the power elite among their party, and Obama is seen as more of an outsider than Clinton. He has no chance, unfortunately.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: lazs2 on March 28, 2008, 10:02:41 AM
I think mac has a huge case of Texas envy..  I'm from kalifornia so I don't blame him tho.

I think that billary will have the half negro guy kneecapped or simply "commit suicide in the park" before it is over.

Her idea of looking more human, less reptilian, is to lie like a barfly about war stories.

lazs
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Toad on March 28, 2008, 10:17:03 AM
The Dems, however, operate under the guise of a free primary but when it comes right down to it their canditate is chosen from the power elite among their party,

I've been thinking about this aspect. I think the Dems need to avoid it at all costs.

If the rank file Dem voters come to the conclusion that the nomination was stolen from Obama by the old line white power base in the Democratic party, what happens vis a vis the Party and its main constituent group that is currently voting overwhelmingly for Obama?

That would sure give Wright something new to rant about, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Bingolong on March 28, 2008, 12:02:12 PM
i hope not.

but i'm just not sure of mccain.

what do i do?



Got some darts?
http://www.votesmart.org/election_president_search.php?type=alpha&stage=&party=&sort=passed
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: FT_Animal on March 28, 2008, 01:28:05 PM
The Democrats are actively self destructing as we speak.

The current Republican party is not remotely conservative (at least in the right ways), has been too long under the sway of that terrible neoconservative philosophy, has fielded IMO, the worst president of modern times and generally has as many political hacks and tools on its dole as the Democrats. But, the Democrats really can't seem to pull off a winning campaign to save their lives. You hand them a clean layup to win the game and they blow it on a slam dunk attempt.

What's funny is that after years of providing lip service to minority and gender rights and simply counting on lesser of two evil voting among these segments, the democrats have finally fielded a two finalist candidates that cancel each other out in those areas and do so in an increasingly divisive manner.

The real Obama we know and love in Illinois (let me count the ways, Todd Stroger endorser) is starting to come out nationally, and the Hillery we all know and love is, if anything, even more arrogant and shrill. McCain would really have to self destruct to blow this one, IMO.

Charon

If the Dems have the same voter turnout for the election matched against the turn out of Reps. McCain just had his butt handed to him. No question IMO.

Most people are asking themselves, do we want another 4 years of Bush. Because that is all McCain is. We'll see. but as I stated above. The voter turnout already has McCain beat, hands down. <shrug> If Billary and Obama happen to team up (questionable), McCain is just so done.

Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Arlo on March 28, 2008, 01:58:26 PM
Barack Obama has 40% of the delegate/superdelegate count, Clinton currently has 37%.  Seems like a pretty close race right now and certainly too close to call with the certainty you have, where do you get 'no chance' from, Airhead?  Am I missing something?

No.  :)
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Shuffler on March 28, 2008, 02:09:37 PM
Seems Texas loves Osama.

No problem, Okies have a firm watch on the Northern banks of the Red River.

Mac

Texas voted against hillary not for obama.

Mccain will win by a landslide.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Airscrew on March 28, 2008, 02:11:27 PM
I think mac has a huge case of Texas envy..  I'm from kalifornia so I don't blame him tho.

I think that billary will have the half negro guy kneecapped or simply "commit suicide in the park" before it is over.

Her idea of looking more human, less reptilian, is to lie like a barfly about war stories.

lazs
:rofl so Hillary pulls a "Tonya Harding" or a "Vince Foster" on Obama...
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Timofei on March 28, 2008, 02:23:56 PM
i hope not.

but i'm just not sure of mccain.

what do i do?



Wait for new Hitler that you can vote for ?
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Jackal1 on March 28, 2008, 02:24:19 PM
:rofl so Hillary pulls a "Tonya Harding" or a "Vince Foster" on Obama...

That wouldn`t surprise me. :)
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Arlo on March 28, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
Texas voted against hillary not for obama.

Mccain will win by a landslide.

Yeah, throngs of Mac supporters at the Dem polls for Hillary were noticed in the Lone Star State.

"Gaming the selection of the chief exec" tactics aside, he'll do it by your self-reaffirmation alone, I bet. :)
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Arlo on March 28, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
Wait for new Hitler that you can vote for ?

Understanding English probably isn't your first language, I went to great pains to try to make sense of this statement and still couldn't. Please try again. Thank you.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Chairboy on March 28, 2008, 04:01:50 PM
I'm unenthusiastic about the three front runners.  McCain's geopolitics sound very similar to the current administration, and I think we need to try something different.  Also, he's very anti-general aviation.  Clinton's economic policies seem to continue the government build-up of the last 10 years, and I'm no fan of bigger government.  Obama is a question wrapped in an enigma, I'm not wild about him because I haven't seen him make any specific propositions on how to fix things.  Talk is easy, but what's The Plan?

None Of The Above would be nice to have on the ballot, but I fear I may need to make a strategic vote this year.  I would like to vote Libertarian like usual, but I have yet to see a candidate announced.  Gravel's recent switch to that party seems interesting, but I know nothing about him.

Should be an exciting year.
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Post by: john9001 on March 28, 2008, 04:05:33 PM
obama has very specific propositions on how to fix things, he said he is going to spend lots of our money.
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Post by: Chairboy on March 28, 2008, 04:08:58 PM
Spending more or less money than the current president?  There's a point where even a crazy ol' "TAX AND SPEND!  TAX AND SPEND!" Democrat is cheaper than what we have right now, but I'd like to see specifics.
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Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
:rofl so Hillary pulls a "Tonya Harding" or a "Vince Foster" on Obama...

Dammm everyone forgot about Vince Foster....

*For those that don't know or forgot...Google it.*
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: AWMac on March 28, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
Yeah, throngs of Mac supporters at the Dem polls for Hillary were noticed in the Lone Star State.

"Gaming the selection of the chief exec" tactics aside, he'll do it by your self-reaffirmation alone, I bet. :)

Yep Arlo...Don't underestimate Republicans.  We're all having fun voting in the Democraps Primarys for The Sponge or the Suppository.  It beats watchin Dr. Phil.  In the long run McCain will be elected.

Mac
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Post by: lazs2 on March 29, 2008, 10:33:03 AM
same old same old..  the democrats can't field a candidate any to the right of lenin.  They can't think of a thing in our lives where government doesn't belong and where a new program to make everyone equal is not a good idea.   They want to take my guns and they want to keep the kids stupid by opposing vouchers and they want to use environmentalism to control us and squeeze more money out of us.. the programs they start all end up being monsters in a few years.   With no gain at all except to make people more stupid and more dependent.

The repubs field another wishy washy candidate who will barely drag his feet on socialism.   They are always on the defensive about smaller government and illegal aliens and the people who hire em.. they get reamed when they lower taxes and they have a problem staying out of other countries business... but.. wars get paid for.. social programs never do.

It will be yet another election of voting for who will start the least social programs and who will appoint the least radical lefty judges.

I can't vote for the commies and their idea of judges.   

I am forced to yet again vote for the lesser of two evils and hope he doesn't think that means I like him and his ideas.. that being "centrous" is what I want.. that getting along with the socialists is what I like.

I think it is time to divide the country into red and blue.. not unite it into rule by the liberal city dwellers who control about 20% of the land mass in this country.

lazs


Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Eagler on March 29, 2008, 04:51:17 PM
he best be the dumbacrats nominee at least or we'll have civil rights style rioting in most major crapholes  .. what else they have to do than burn down their hoods?

that said, I think McCain will beat either the ho or the bro if the dems do what they say they'll do (the hard part :)) and vote 20% for jumpin john when their fav is not picked..
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Selino631 on March 29, 2008, 11:21:28 PM
I hope McCain wins eventho i dont really like him. i like tho that he really supports the Military.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Chairboy on March 30, 2008, 11:51:31 AM
RPM:
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/index.html

According to this, Barack Obama appears to have won Texas.
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: DREDIOCK on March 30, 2008, 12:28:52 PM
Texas voted against hillary not for obama.

Mccain will win by a landslide.

Ummm.
Just looked at the map.
Hillary Won Texas
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Post by: CptTrips on March 30, 2008, 09:22:42 PM

Only if they miss.

 :O,
Wab
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: Chairboy on March 31, 2008, 10:49:02 PM
rpm, DREDIOCK, still haven't heard anything from you about the Texas situation.  AP's reporting it now:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i_QDnA56kHa3qYl41FUYT3PLHJvwD8VOK68O0
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Post by: ShrkBite on March 31, 2008, 11:53:58 PM
 :huh
Title: Re: will obama be president?
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 01, 2008, 12:23:44 AM
rpm, DREDIOCK, still haven't heard anything from you about the Texas situation.  AP's reporting it now:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i_QDnA56kHa3qYl41FUYT3PLHJvwD8VOK68O0

LOL probably because so far you are the nly one I've heard it from.

To be fair I havent been watching alot of the news lately anyway.

I was refering to the original vote of a  few weeks ago