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Title: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Fishu on March 28, 2008, 07:32:29 PM
Muslim communities all over the world are shocked by the latest attack of western radicals. The latest attack against the muslims was committed on thursday by dutch politician Geert Wilders, who published an islam critical video called "Fitna". The video begins with a bearded cartoon character wearing a turban with a bomb and then proceeds to quote quran while showing images and video of terrorist attacks against the US and Europe since 2001. In the end europeans are reminded of nazis and communists being defeated in 1945 and 1989 respectively and are then encouraged to oppose the spread of islam as a similar threat.

The video was published on Liveleak.com and several torrent sites around the world.

The dutch government immediately declared their disapproval of the video and an investigation will be done to determine whether the video is in violation of the law. The local TV stations have stated that they will not broadcast the video. Muslim councils around the Europe are grateful of the prompt action by the dutch government to revoke the right of free speech in the issue of the video, which does not represent the muslim values. The councils have also warned that such western radicalism could subject europeans to a violent response by muslims.

The first course of action was to threaten the staff of Liveleak.com to remove the video from the site. Due to the threats the video has been removed from the site with the following announcement: "Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers."

Already prior to the release of the video a service provider located in the US had closed a website advertising the video due to negative feedback and are investigating whether the website was in violation of the service agreement.


News related to the radical anti-islam attack:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7317506.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7318363.stm
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/28/islam.film/index.html

The video (It's TPB, but that's a legit torrent):
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4102738/Fitna_the_movie_-_English_-_AVI_and_FLV_format
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3369102968312745410
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Gunslinger on March 28, 2008, 07:37:48 PM
Religion of perpetual outrage!
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Xargos on March 28, 2008, 07:45:23 PM
The threats only show how radical the Muslims are.  I'm tired of them having more rights then the rest of society.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: SD67 on March 28, 2008, 07:46:09 PM
Linky? I feel like a good laugh :lol
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: eagl on March 28, 2008, 07:58:17 PM
I think they're shocked that "western radicalism" doesn't involve cutting people's heads off, blowing up innocents, and milling around shouting "death to islam" while firing off guns.

No, they're shocked because we make videos pointing out how we really think radical islam is disgustingly violent, attempt to kill only those who are actively trying to kill others, and mill around complaining about people while drinking beer.  Shocking, absolutely shocking.  We should switch to random violence and beheadings if we ever want to really relate to "them".
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: LePaul on March 28, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
Maybe we should show such videos at our schools, so while they teach their children messages of hate, we can teach ours how their minds work.

Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: dmf on March 28, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
Maybe we should show such videos at our schools, so while they teach their children messages of hate, we can teach ours how their minds work.



But then this country wouldn't be politically correct, and out children would learn how they really do hate us.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: SD67 on March 28, 2008, 08:32:47 PM
I think it's well past time this PC crap was canned.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: dmf on March 28, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
But But But...........then the retarded kid wouldn't be called mentally challenged anymore. And the soccer players wouldn't have kids with leg braces on trying to run up and down the fields.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on March 28, 2008, 08:39:58 PM
And the soccer players wouldn't have kids with leg braces on trying to run up and down the fields.


It doesnt matter though, everyone gets a trophy because we are all winners! :aok
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: SD67 on March 28, 2008, 08:40:56 PM
It blows.
All it does is call attention to the disadvantaged and hamper the progress of those truly gifted individuals so we don't hurt anyone's feelings.
Conjoined Twin Myslexia day anyone?
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Russian on March 28, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
Dling now.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: SD67 on March 28, 2008, 09:01:21 PM
That was one of the most thought provoking things I've seen in a very long time.
Chilling in fact, but entirely true.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Russian on March 28, 2008, 09:18:10 PM
Finished watching it...its short 17 min.....and I agree 100% on it. Modify koran to be civilized...or ban it all together. They don't understand logic and respect ....revert to their understanding......annihilate their land and people.....bring up children to Western standards....pour on them coka-cola and don't use 'smart-weapons'. If they want to immigrate....don't allow them until THEY drop religion. West is way too soft lately......they will one of us, take out their city. They kill two - two cities. ...enough is enough.   
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: mg1942 on March 28, 2008, 09:36:32 PM
hmmm, I wonder if USA is part of the West. 
I'll answer this anyway... To me USA is a bridge for EAST and WEST.

It would be a sad day and an insult to what USA stands for if future immigrants have to drop their sect/religion so that they can live in the US. 
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: mg1942 on March 28, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
here's a better quality.
and downloadable too
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v6533621XmPsXR86?searchId=6735409317549494135&rank=1
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Gunslinger on March 28, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
Really good film!  Very powerful.  I don't know how one can dispute the things said in there.

Sadly this thread is about 5 posts away from comparing muslims to the so called "christian" terrorists out there.....just like all those before it.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Octavius on March 28, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
But But But...........then the retarded kid wouldn't be called mentally challenged anymore. And the soccer players wouldn't have kids with leg braces on trying to run up and down the fields.

"Alternatively advantaged!"




I really like Liveleak.com.  Many bold and original opinions being shared through that site.  I visit often for my weekly dose of infrared jihadist decapitation.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: eagl on March 28, 2008, 10:11:41 PM
Well, liveleak capitulated.  They are now slaves to islamist threats.

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Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.
This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and religions, who gave us their support. They realised LiveLeak.com is a vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one.
Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can accept one anothers culture.
We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Maverick on March 28, 2008, 10:16:48 PM
hmmm, I wonder if USA is part of the West. 
I'll answer this anyway... To me USA is a bridge for EAST and WEST.

It would be a sad day and an insult to what USA stands for if future immigrants have to drop their sect/religion so that they can live in the US. 

While I understand what you are saying, I think there is a reverse situation as well.

It would be a shame if the immigrants to the US feel they have the right to demand the country change to their version of religion or die if they refuse.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: eagl on March 28, 2008, 10:29:20 PM
Hmm.

I'll go on record and say it is NOT ok for someone to come into the US and attempt to continue cultural practices such as ritual female circumcision, "honor" killings, death sentences handed out by religious leaders, and other similar practices that are perfectly acceptable in islamic countries and cultures.  These are not even "radical" islamic practices, they are mainstream behaviors.  And they are not acceptable in the US, period.

If that means they have to give up their religion to immigrate to the US, so be it.  But they will not import those cultural and religious behaviors to the US and expect tolerance or welcome.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Fishu on March 28, 2008, 10:31:40 PM
If that means they have to give up their religion to immigrate to the US, so be it.  But they will not import those cultural and religious behaviors to the US and expect tolerance or welcome.

Amen to that. I hope our European leaders would someday understand that. Multiculturalism doesn't either mean there has to be endless privileges to the minorities.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: eagl on March 28, 2008, 10:42:57 PM
Do your part...  Find an islamist propaganda video on liveleak and report it to liveleak, demanding that they take it down like they took down fitna.  There are literally hundreds of vids of humvees getting blown up by IEDs, so it ought to be easy to find one to demand get taken down.

They can't stand the heat so they ought to get out of the kitchen.  Can't have it both ways.  They put their neck under the heel of the islamists when they removed fitna, and they ought to hear about what insults and offends the rest of the world too.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Brownshirt on March 28, 2008, 11:24:24 PM
All Muslims should be expelled from the western countries; there's no room for them, or their hate filled religion, in here.

Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: LePaul on March 28, 2008, 11:38:33 PM
I wish I could find the quote the former British PM said about that...something to the effect of assimilate or leave?
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: angelsandair on March 28, 2008, 11:40:17 PM
The threats only show how radical the Muslims are.  I'm tired of them having more rights then the rest of society.

dude, do you know of all muslims, 20% are shi'ite which are told to be more violent of which, less than 40% of them are even violent
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 29, 2008, 12:45:50 AM
dude, do you know of all muslims, 20% are shi'ite which are told to be more violent of which, less than 40% of them are even violent

It's a conservative estimate to say that 1/4 of the muslims in the world believe in Radical Islam.  That is to say, 1/4 muslims believe it is justified to cut the heads off of Jews, ala Nick Berg.

While this doesn't sound so threatening, the total number of Muslims in this world is around 1 billion.




So basically, 250 MILLION MUSLIMS see nothing wrong with cutting the heads off of infidels.  And why should they?
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Xargos on March 29, 2008, 12:52:47 AM
dude, do you know of all muslims, 20% are shi'ite which are told to be more violent of which, less than 40% of them are even violent

I grew up in a Muslim Country.  Western Countries should not allow anyone into their country that is unwilling to assimilate. 
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Lumpy on March 29, 2008, 02:08:26 AM
Assimilate or leave ... or we'll ask Poland to warm up the old ovens.
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: Brownshirt on March 29, 2008, 07:40:29 AM
They are a threat to our life style and culture, if we don't stop them now then little by little they will spread their tentacles across our societies and change our world.

Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: MiloMorai on March 29, 2008, 09:13:57 AM
Assimilate or leave ... or we'll ask Poland to warm up the old ovens.

You mean those old German ovens in Poland, right?
Title: Re: Muslims shocked by western radicalism
Post by: eagl on March 29, 2008, 09:17:38 AM
Might as well wrap this up before skuzzy gets here...

OMTFG Lumpy is teh hitlar!!1