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Title: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Motherland on March 29, 2008, 05:32:52 PM

I've finally done a JG11 skin...

Heinz Knoke was the Staffelkapitaen of 5./JG11. He pioneered 'air to air bombing', ordering his crew to strap a 250kg bomb to his 109G1 (which I will be doing next). After taking his time climbing to 29,500 ft, he dropped his bomb into a formation of B17's.... and hit one :rock The technique was further tested by the Luftwaffe and found to be ineffective.

This is not a G1 of course, but I wanted to this plane of his also, as it is on the cover of Osprey's Aircraft of the Aces Bf. 109 Defense of the Reich Aces.


And now...
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg63.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg6.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg62.jpg)

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Yossarian on March 29, 2008, 05:42:11 PM

Nice work!!  :salute

That screenshot of you launching those rockets is excellent btw.  :aok

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Yossarian

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Motherland on March 30, 2008, 01:14:57 AM

Here's Knoke's G1, which he used to successfully air-to-air bomb a B17-

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg1.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg12.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/knokeg13.jpg)

Still need one little detail on that. A little sheild, I'll post a picture of it tomorrow. I've never seen it before... Im not sure if it's an emblem of 5 Staffel or if its personal or what.

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: moot on March 30, 2008, 01:58:36 AM

Why doesn't it have JG11's yellow band?

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Xasthur on March 30, 2008, 07:12:15 AM

I thought that took place before the RVD system was introduced.

Mid 43 all Defence of the Reich fighters had their rudders painted white.

According to my sources the coloured fuselage bands did not appear until January 1944.

Motherland's source does show the aircraft twice with the narrow fuselage band but both are artist's impressions.

I could find no photo of the aircraft. It does however show profiles of two 5./JG 11 G6s from May and June 43 that have that red band.

As for the G6 skin, Motherland, if you're following that profile you've missed the single row of rudder kill markings. P 43, profile 19?

I'd also throttle back your panel line dirt too... it looks a little too dirty be entirely realistic. To my eye, at least.

It looks the wings have been covered in mud and then washed off with a hose.

I'd drop the opacity by 10 or 15% but that's just me.

Nice work otherwise  :aok

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: moot on March 30, 2008, 10:09:08 AM

Thanks, I didn't know about that.
I can't really comment on the skin, it's not close enough to the camera.

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Motherland on March 30, 2008, 11:20:45 AM

Perhaps the band on the G6 should be yellow, and it was merely interpreted as red? Like that red-nosed 109F?

Oh, yeah... I did forget the killboard.

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Xasthur on March 30, 2008, 12:06:58 PM

Given your references I'd stick with the red band.

Also, I forgot to mention before, did you check the wing walkway markings on the right wing?

You need to horizontally flip them in your editing program or else they come up reveresed.

Title: Re: 5./JG11 Heinz Knoke Bf. 109G6
Post by: Motherland on March 31, 2008, 02:39:23 PM

I have a possible for the red band...

Heinz Knoke was staffelkapitaen of 2.I/JG1 before the reorginization of the unit in April 1943 put him in command of 5.2/JG11 (as I/JG1 became II/JG11). I'm thinking it's possible that JG1 and JG11 shared the red band until JG11 decided to use yellow.