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Title: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Xargos on March 30, 2008, 09:09:07 AM
This just floored me when I first saw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHoyB81LnE
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Ripsnort on March 30, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
So the question here is:
Do you think he has self-actualization that brings out the artist in him that drives him to paint himself?
Or do you think its learned behavior (by a trainer)

The difference between animals and humans is upper level thinking, philosophy, that drives the artist in us.  I think this is learned behavior.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Xargos on March 30, 2008, 09:18:07 AM
Yep, so do I.  But it's still cool that he can do it.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: midnight Target on March 30, 2008, 09:23:15 AM
I think it's a fake.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Holden McGroin on March 30, 2008, 09:25:19 AM
The difference between animals and humans is upper level thinking, philosophy, that drives the artist in us. 

But that 1% DNA difference is ... how'd you put it?
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: SD67 on March 30, 2008, 09:30:20 AM
Trained or not, damn thing paints a better picture than I ever could :lol
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: REP0MAN on March 30, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
I think it's a fake.


One tinfoil hat for you sir.

I agree with Rip, while genuinely a live elephant completing the task; it's most likely a learned task.

:aok
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: boxboy28 on March 30, 2008, 10:18:26 AM
I think the painting it self was obviously a learn behavior!  bt i would need to know more before i said that the elephant painted it self as it was self aware! it could be just painting the things it sees in its enviroment.

I dont doubt that animals have the capability to be self aware and have a conscience soul. Some animals its a bit more obvious in.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: texasmom on March 30, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
The clip shows a man (toward the end) with a second easel ~ with the flowers on it. 

For each step along the painting, there are people who come up & show a picture of the "next step,"  which the elephant copies.

Does that make it any less wonderful?  Nope ~ sure was cool to watch that.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: MORAY37 on March 30, 2008, 12:15:48 PM
That's pretty funny... of course it's learned.... just as it is in humans.

My girlfriend, who is a zookeeper, has a picture she watched an elephant paint, for her.  The particular zoo used painting as enrichment for its' elephants.  The elephant was given a brush with some paint colors spread around it.  It painted a picture of it's favorite "toy"....a tire that was hung on a tree.... that was in an entirely different enclosure, and out of view.

I found that very interesting, in itself.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: texasmom on March 30, 2008, 12:19:10 PM
That's cool  Moray :)
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: ASTAC on March 30, 2008, 02:08:16 PM
Neat-O
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: AWMac on March 30, 2008, 02:19:31 PM
I heard his artwork sells for peanuts.

Mac

*runs for the door*
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Jackal1 on March 30, 2008, 04:15:56 PM
The elephant was given a brush with some paint colors spread around it.  It painted a picture of it's favorite "toy"....a tire that was hung on a tree

The elephant was probably just trying to get a message across.
"Grab some wheels baby and meet me at the front gate. We`re doing the town tonight."


Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: DieAz on March 30, 2008, 07:35:27 PM
I heard his artwork sells for peanuts.

Mac

*runs for the door*

that may be, but they seem to be all sold as fast as they are up for sale. http://store.exoticworldgifts.com/prostores/servlet/Categories?category=Rare%20Finds
http://www.exoticworldgifts.com/

I would like to have one of those paintings.
simple, straight forward, elegantly done.
trained or not, they are masterpieces.
Title: Re: Elephant Paints Self Portrait
Post by: Sox62 on March 30, 2008, 07:40:04 PM
Meh.

The legs are horribly drawn,and he didn't even sign it.