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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Jackal1 on April 01, 2008, 05:35:03 AM
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By RON JENKINS, Associated Press Writer Mon Mar 31, 11:50 PM ET
OKLAHOMA CITY - After strong protests, Oklahoma Senate leaders decided Monday to shelve a bill to allow military veterans and others with firearms training to carry concealed weapons on college campuses.
Sen. Mike Johnson, a Republican, said he and Sen. Johnnie Crutchfield, a Democrat, made a joint decision to leave the bill off the agenda of the committee that would debate the measure.
According to Crutchfield, he and Johnson "couldn't agree" to hear the bill.
"The bottom line is the bill will not be considered this session," he said.
University presidents, faculty members and students had loudly opposed the measure, which sponsors said would improve campus security. Educators said it would have the opposite effect.
University of Oklahoma President David Boren had argued the bill would hurt recruitment of students and faculty. It also would pose a dilemma for police trying to determine whether a person wielding a weapon was a "deranged gunman or someone who thinks he is doing good vigilante work."
Rep. Jason Murphey, a Republican, had introduced the campus gun bill. He said college officials used fear tactics against his measure, and he disputed their claim that it would have increased security problems.
Murphey and others argued that properly trained people with concealed handguns could avert deadly episodes like one last year that left 33 dead, counting the shooter, at Virginia Tech.
"If we can't trust our veterans, who can we trust?" he asked.
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Everyone is doing the dance.
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Stupidity during an election year?
This actually comes as a surprise to you?
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Stupidity during an election year?
This actually comes as a surprise to you?
Why wait for an election year. Theres stupid people around all the time
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Stupidity during an election year?
This actually comes as a surprise to you?
Not at all.
Everyone too busy doing the dance to take care of business.
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So that means off-duty and undercover officers should not respond to any crimes, because the uniformed officers might think they're the bad guy.
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There are millions of concealed carry people in the US and so far as I know.. none of them have ever been mistaken for a deranged gunman. It may have happened but I am not aware of it.. if it did.. it most certainly does not cause enough problems to negate the good that concealed carry does.
lazs
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There are millions of concealed carry people in the US and so far as I know.. none of them have ever been mistaken for a deranged gunman. It may have happened but I am not aware of it.. if it did.. it most certainly does not cause enough problems to negate the good that concealed carry does.
lazs
I've heard of more people who WERE NOT carrying guns being mistaken for gunmen than concealed carriers. Last year some college kid got shot by the cops because he had a playstation controller in his hand when they entered, and it looked like a gun. What this tells me is people who carry concealed weapons do exactly that, they conceal them. I can't imagine a cop mistaking a person for a gunamn when they have no idea that person has a gun.
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These things would not happen if everyone was made to be naked with their hands on top of their heads at all times.
lazs
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The epitome of stupidity?? Just look at the three weakest choices for President we have had in my time.
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"If we can't trust our veterans, who can we trust?"
(http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/notorious_murders/mass/whiteman/1a.jpg)
Charles Whitman - United States Marine Corps
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/CE2892.jpg/225px-CE2892.jpg)
Lee Harvey Oswald - United States Marine Corps
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/David_Berkowitz.jpg/200px-David_Berkowitz.jpg)
David Berkowitz - US Army (Son of Sam)
(http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/8/k/T/bonin.jpg)
William Bonin - USAF (Freeway Killer)
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We tried to post the killers that were not in the military but decided the list was way too long.
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We tried to post the killers that were not in the military but decided the list was way too long.
:) :lol
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We tried to post the killers that were not in the military but decided the list was way too long.
:aok and :lol
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We tried to post the killers that were not in the military but decided the list was way too long.
:aok