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Title: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 08:13:00 AM
EDIT


Screw it. You guys knock yourselves out!  :lol



Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: republic on April 01, 2008, 08:20:28 AM
The AvA is broken, until it is fixed I'll stick to quitting.  After only a few days back in the MA, I'm amazed at how stress free it is there.  An arena without drama...it's an amazing invention!
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 08:25:48 AM
Removed

<S> Republic ;)

Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: republic on April 01, 2008, 08:32:41 AM
Edit:  I'm tired of trying to reason.

<S> Shifty
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: storch on April 01, 2008, 08:40:31 AM
now hold on thar deppity dawg.  do you think it might be in line to ask a particular player why he is abstaining from the AvA?

my reason is simple, I'm tired of chasing you guys into your ack.  that should be axiomatic but for that you guys are in denial.

if you guys would fight you would die die die and die so you hide in the ack.  in my opinion that is a no fun way to play a game and incidentally it should also be an axiom that this form of playing is the very reason why so many allied players lack in proficiency.

before someone points out the obvious and tell me that it is their fifteen bucks and they will play in any manner they see fit and that I should go pack sand I would ask you to consider that it is my fifteen bucks and I'll apply my discreationary time to fighting red clouds of nooblets in the MAs where at least I get some fights.

I play for the fight, there are very few allied players that deliver any sort of fight and fewer still who are any good.  I derive more pleasure and see more challenge trying to kill the AI player offline that I do fighting 99.5% of the allied players in the AvA.

you guys need to skill up, you suck.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 08:42:04 AM
Thank you for making my point.  :D
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 01, 2008, 08:56:59 AM
 do you think it might be in line to ask a particular player why he is abstaining from the AvA?




funny how storchypoo thinks it is all about him  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

last night in the blue arena i saw him and the girls trying to type the same crap they typed in the AvA to BIGBAW and anyone else who would fall for thier crap.Different arena same ol weak smack typing.

NEWSFLASH storchypoo: This arena doesn't revolve around you,nor will it ever revolve around you or your little squad of bushmen.You acting like a baby and playing somewhere else is the best thing yet, and i know this will be hard for you so highly skilled persona to handle; but you and the girls are replaceable and in fact are being replaced as i type. :D :aok :rock
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: captain1ma on April 01, 2008, 09:25:13 AM
funny how storchypoo thinks it is all about him  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

last night in the blue arena i saw him and the girls trying to type the same crap they typed in the AvA to BIGBAW and anyone else who would fall for thier crap.Different arena same ol weak smack typing.

NEWSFLASH storchypoo: This arena doesn't revolve around you,nor will it ever revolve around you or your little squad of bushmen.You acting like a baby and playing somewhere else is the best thing yet, and i know this will be hard for you so highly skilled persona to handle; but you and the girls are replaceable and in fact are being replaced as i type. :D :aok :rock

Again the 14 year old with the less then 50 IQ has something to say. grow up boy!  :)  dont you have a bone to gnaw on??

ps. it wasnt storchypoo doing the typing
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: republic on April 01, 2008, 09:35:58 AM
I believe Storch was referring to me abstaining from the AvA.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 01, 2008, 09:45:35 AM


 him and the girls



i didn't leave you out captain dont worry your wittle head now.you better get back on his ankle before he notices you gone........
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: GooseAW on April 01, 2008, 10:58:55 AM
I didn't realize it was sooo bad in there. I spent a couple of hours in AvA for the first time in a long time. I ended up on the axis side and heavily outnumbered by spits, hurris, and A20s trying to defend Vbases under relentless CV attack which I learned were launching Doolittle type A20 raids along with the fiters. This I think was a little ridiculous but hey...it's a game and was a change from the same ole...
I guess I was in when truekill and crew had gone allied to prove a point or whatever so I upped a 110C after tiring of being carpet bombed by incessant A20 attacks. I had no problem finding a fight but couldn't get a wingman.

I came out of it with a positive K/D ratio and having gotten a little breath of fresh air. Relax and have fun gents....this is a game.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Larry on April 01, 2008, 11:49:27 AM
NEWSFLASH storchypoo: This arena doesn't revolve around you,nor will it ever revolve around you or your little squad of bushmen.

I guess you wernt there for the past three years where JG54 were the ONLY axis squad kepping AvA alive. Every night JG54 had half if not more then half the numbers. We even switched to even number. So go back to your little wonderland with your other shades and st fu since you know nothing about us.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Odee on April 01, 2008, 12:18:31 PM
CaptMA, you really need to consider a different response than the "IQ" one.  It's kind of dated for your adolescent self... isn't it?

 :cry
Thank you for making my point.  :D
Damn....  Makes me wish I'd seen the original postings now.
 :(
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 12:31:43 PM
CaptMA, you really need to consider a different response than the "IQ" one.  It's kind of dated for your adolescent self... isn't it?

 :cry Damn....  Makes me wish I'd seen the original postings now.
 :(

It was an olive branch asking folks to lighten up on both sides. Unfortunatly as I stired the AVA waters with it I failed to notice it was blood stained. The sharks moved in smelling blood in the water. Then the feeding frenzy ensused. I rowed back to the beach shaking my head at my own foolishness for just opening another beach to get bit at. Surf's up, just don't dangle your arms or legs in the water. :lol
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: republic on April 01, 2008, 01:23:29 PM
I have had this radical idea, so might as well put it out here.

I believe the war needs...some adjustment.  As much as I appreciate the staff, I believe some 'regular joe' input would be handy.  I say take a couple hardcore (very active) allied guys, a couple hardcore (very active) axis guys, give them access to a staff forum and let them air their grievances and work things out with the staff.

As much as I am thankful for the staff, what we see and what they see can often be two different things....and the truth lost somewhere in between.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
I have had this radical idea, so might as well put it out here.

I believe the war needs...some adjustment.  As much as I appreciate the staff, I believe some 'regular joe' input would be handy.  I say take a couple hardcore (very active) allied guys, a couple hardcore (very active) axis guys, give them access to a staff forum and let them air their grievances and work things out with the staff.

As much as I am thankful for the staff, what we see and what they see can often be two different things....and the truth lost somewhere in between.


That seems like very good and well thought out idea. Of course after reading our usual daily caca in here... You have to wonder if they really want us having any more access to them. I do like the idea though. Maybe it shouldn't be their forum, because they do need a place to disuss their issues without our input. Possibly setup a War Forum where just the AVA staff and one or two reps from the  Axis and Allies have access, to try and cut through some of the clutter.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Arlo on April 01, 2008, 01:37:43 PM
(Counting forums) Oy.  :D
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 01, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
I guess you wernt there for the past three years where JG54 were the ONLY axis squad kepping AvA alive. Every night JG54 had half if not more then half the numbers. We even switched to even number. So go back to your little wonderland with your other shades and st fu since you know nothing about us.

you should change your name to Moses, seeing as how you like to try and light bushes on fire....

i don't care if your the genius who invented the AvA arena, it doesn't revolve around your wittle squad.

And BTW, i remember flying in there with the 880 FAA back when Henig and skyfoxx were running the show and i dont recall seein you in there. :aok :D :rock
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Odee on April 01, 2008, 01:57:04 PM
It was an olive branch asking folks to lighten up on both sides. Unfortunatly as I stired the AVA waters with it I failed to notice it was blood stained. The sharks moved in smelling blood in the water. Then the feeding frenzy ensused. I rowed back to the beach shaking my head at my own foolishness for just opening another beach to get bit at. Surf's up, just don't dangle your arms or legs in the water. :lol
I'm a Dry water Dolphin kinda guy...  to limit my wrinkle prone body.  Very limited contact with cumulo-aqua.  Sakes forbid I ever get my toes wet...
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: republic on April 01, 2008, 02:12:18 PM
Possibly setup a War Forum where just the AVA staff and one or two reps from the  Axis and Allies have access, to try and cut through some of the clutter.

Yes, I agree.  Beyond the smack and bravado, there are genuine concerns on both sides that should be talked about if this war thing and indeed CT are ever to be sucessful in the long term.

It's really impossible to discuss them in the AvA forum, the Axis/Allied forums are like preaching to the choir (for those who even have access), and PM's just aren't as constructive either.  To solve an issue there needs to be 4 sides to the argument.  Allied/Axis/Staff and the eventual agreed upon compromise.

Even with that in place, not everyone is going to be happy.  But at least we can feel as though we have some say in the process.  We can each petition our union rep to push for the changes we'd like to see.  :)
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 02:16:13 PM
Republic,

Why don't you PM a member of the AVA Staff with your idea. The two sides could pick their reps if the staff is willing. This should be a serious no flame forum, where like you said actual concerns and issues could be brought up in an adult manner.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 01, 2008, 02:33:07 PM
I'm a Dry water Dolphin kinda guy...  to limit my wrinkle prone body.  Very limited contact with cumulo-aqua.  Sakes forbid I ever get my toes wet...

 :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 01, 2008, 02:35:08 PM
Yes, I agree.  Beyond the smack and bravado, there are genuine concerns on both sides that should be talked about if this war thing and indeed CT are ever to be sucessful in the long term.



Agreed
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: 1redrum on April 01, 2008, 02:41:40 PM
I like biscuits
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Larry on April 01, 2008, 02:58:01 PM
See Rules #7, #5
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Shifty on April 01, 2008, 04:06:36 PM
I like biscuits

I got what you like.
(http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/images/pillsbury_boy.jpg)

TAKE ME!
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: TheBug on April 01, 2008, 04:31:06 PM
TK I suggest ignoring this guy.  He has made his intentions of being a complete arse quite clear.  So unless you value his opinion of you so dearly I do not understand what is the point in catering his nancy boy behavior.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Larry on April 01, 2008, 04:41:31 PM
Yea bug he just craves attention no matter good or bad he just wants it. I think he wasnt loved enough as a child. I wish I could find the ignore list on this new forum.
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Odee on April 01, 2008, 06:05:27 PM
 :aok
I got what you like.
(http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/images/pillsbury_boy.jpg)

TAKE ME!
Nuthin says "Lovin!", like something from the oven!  :aok :rofl

Good one Shifty.  :salute
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 02, 2008, 08:27:36 AM
TK I suggest ignoring this guy.  He has made his intentions of being a complete arse quite clear.  So unless you value his opinion of you so dearly I do not understand what is the point in catering his nancy boy behavior.

awww thats so nice of you to throw him a rope......... :D :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: TheBug on April 02, 2008, 08:08:57 PM
Now I know you don't crave my attention. 
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 02, 2008, 08:43:08 PM
Now I know you don't crave my attention. 

your the corniest person i have ever met, so corny you could run a ethanol plant all by your lonesome so save it for someone who doesn't know you B :aok
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: TheBug on April 02, 2008, 10:28:03 PM
A line like that and I'm corny??

I prefer to deny ever having the complete displeasure of in any way acknowledging your pathetic existence.  You are an ignorant(better definition is stupid but I'll be polite), weak person that has a very low self esteem and constantly craves recognition.  This game is this game, outside of it, I feel very sorry for you. <S>
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: JagdTankker on April 03, 2008, 01:16:31 AM
A line like that and I'm corny??

I prefer to deny ever having the complete displeasure of in any way acknowledging your pathetic existence.  You are an ignorant(better definition is stupid but I'll be polite), weak person that has a very low self esteem and constantly craves recognition.  This game is this game, outside of it, I feel very sorry for you. <S>

why thank you so much for those corny but yet kind words.i will sleep so much better knowing about your level of caring for me. :D :aok :rofl :rock
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Chilli on April 03, 2008, 05:31:42 AM
I have had this radical idea, so might as well put it out here.

I believe the war needs...some adjustment.  As much as I appreciate the staff, I believe some 'regular joe' input would be handy.  I say take a couple hardcore (very active) allied guys, a couple hardcore (very active) axis guys, give them access to a staff forum and let them air their grievances and work things out with the staff.

As much as I am thankful for the staff, what we see and what they see can often be two different things....and the truth lost somewhere in between.


Well put Republic. :aok  I nominate you (didn't see that coming did ya?)  I guess that is kinda like voting across party lines, but I agree that a separate forum with ordinary Joe reps is needed.  Maybe COs and XOs and like you suggested, some representatives from the ranks (could be done from squads or active posts, etc) could privately pitch and debate gameplay. 

I think that Arlo makes some very interesting posts that relate to historical and game play issues and a good choice for Allied representation.  I have my opinions, but I try to keep in mind that we have just gone through a major change, so no need to throw out the good with the bad.  I believe that slight adjustments and altered scoring objectives can sweeten the allure for AvA.  Sheepishly, throwing my hat into that ring :pray

Back to my suggestion of a one day altered AvA arena, different setups can be tested and feedback will be based on trial not rhetoric. 
Title: Re: Things do need to change.
Post by: Arlo on April 03, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
I think that Arlo makes some very interesting posts that relate to historical and game play issues and a good choice for Allied representation.  I have my opinions, but I try to keep in mind that we have just gone through a major change, so no need to throw out the good with the bad.  I believe that slight adjustments and altered scoring objectives can sweeten the allure for AvA.  Sheepishly, throwing my hat into that ring :pray


I think your hat is a good choice.
:D