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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on April 02, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
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If one mistakenly puts power steering fluid into the brake fluid......
what are the usual results?
Best way to remedy the situation?
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Bleed out the brakes... You should be fine.
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Draw all the fluid out of the master cylinder that you can.... then replace with new fluid... then bleed the heck out of the lines. Do this as soon as possible. The power steering fluid will cause the rubber seals to swell locking everything up. If you wait too long you'll be replacing the calipers and master cylinder.
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Well if you just poured it in AND you havent pushed the brake pedal, just use shop towels to absorb the steering fluid and get all out you can, IF you have pressed the brakes which will push the fluid thru the lines, then yes bleed the system till you see no more red fluid
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If one mistakenly puts power steering fluid into the brake fluid......
what are the usual results?
Best way to remedy the situation?
There is a story behind this begging to be shared.
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First question, how long ago did you do this?
If not just now, have you driven it much?
If you just topped with it, do as already advised. Suck out the master cylinder with a turkey baster then fill with fresh fluid and bleed the lines until you get clear clean fluid.
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Vehicle was driven and operated .................
brakes didn't work too well..........
been about 3 days since this happened...........
started draining and flushing with brake fluid today......
stuff is all through the system............
gone through about 2/3 of a large container of brake fluid so far..........
all bleeders opened and flushed with fluid, now going to each individual bleeder (right rear 1st) and flushing as best I can..................
fluid still looks wrong think I better empty the master cylinder before going further....
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OH BTW
THANKS for the speedy reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock :rock :rock
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If one mistakenly puts power steering fluid into the brake fluid......
what are the usual results?
You either turn the wheel to the right and the brakes slam on, or step on the brakes and he car veers dangeously to the left.
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You either turn the wheel to the right and the brakes slam on, or step on the brakes and he car veers dangeously to the left.
As long as its consistent, its workable :)
shamus
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Wrag if you have a air compressor break the lines loose from the master cylinder and make sure your wheel cylinders are open, Cut the Air pressure way down just enough to force the fluid out, saves time and alot of wasted brake fluid.
Then have a friend help you bleed the system once its clean, its a %$tch to bleed them alone
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So Wrag, did you not notice the power steering fluid was red and the brake was clear? ;)
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So Wrag, did you not notice the power steering fluid was red and the brake was clear? ;)
Actually the power steering fluid is CLEAR........................ ..
or at the most sort of a yellowish color but thicker then brake fluid?
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I use the same stuff wrag, water clear but a bit thicker.
shamus
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:rofl My ex girlfriend did that to my truck once. :cry What a royal pain in the arse. Good luck with getting it all out though i know it ended up costing me lot's of cash because by the time she told me it'd been 4-5 days. :mad: The worst thing i ever had happen to me was when they tried changing the anti-freeze to a new type and it was a bluish color, yep, almost identical to wiper fluid. Dumb arse mechanic put it in my wiper fluid tank and when i hit my wipers/spray that night i couldn't see out the windshield. :O Picture me sitting behind the wheel of a 70,000 plus loaded semi truck and not being able to see worth a dang and running 65mph. :eek: Luckily i got it to the shoulder and stopped but what a pain to clean off. Needless to say we stopped useing that type of anti-freeze and mech got a good reaming from me and the boss.
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Your name is wrongwayric and you drive a truck for a living?
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:rofl My ex girlfriend did that to my truck once. :cry What a royal pain in the arse. Good luck with getting it all out though i know it ended up costing me lot's of cash because by the time she told me it'd been 4-5 days. :mad: The worst thing i ever had happen to me was when they tried changing the anti-freeze to a new type and it was a bluish color, yep, almost identical to wiper fluid. Dumb arse mechanic put it in my wiper fluid tank and when i hit my wipers/spray that night i couldn't see out the windshield. :O Picture me sitting behind the wheel of a 70,000 plus loaded semi truck and not being able to see worth a dang and running 65mph. :eek: Luckily i got it to the shoulder and stopped but what a pain to clean off. Needless to say we stopped useing that type of anti-freeze and mech got a good reaming from me and the boss.
My teacher at A&P class did this. Its not as bad as doing an oil change on a semi and forgetting to close the drain valve. Pumped 13 gallons onto the ground and wondered why it was taking so much oil.
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Dont feel to bad.I used my roomates gas can to fill my bike the other day and it was a gas oil mix for a weeqd wacker.Still havnt gotten it running.I posted a thread on this for Bike tech weinies.
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:rofl That was my first C.B. handle as i was sent on a run out of michigan returning home to illinois, or so i thought. The load was to go to decatur, and since i thought decatur illinois which was 40 miles from the house that's were i went. Unfortunately it went to decatur indiana. :o :uhoh Who knew the boss would be mad about a 180 mile mistake? :huh :rofl
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There is a story behind this begging to be shared.
like we all are going to be eventually, he is getting old and senile. according to Nwbie, he sings funny too. :D :P :devil
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like we all are going to be eventually, he is getting old and senile. according to Nwbie, he sings funny too. :D :P :devil
You just wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOOHHHH am I gonna sing next time your on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil :devil :devil
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what makes you think I want to hear a screeching cat being strangled? <what he said it sounds like> :t :P :D
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Don't feel bad, this kind of thing happens all the time.
When my sister was getting her drivers license, my dad made her do an oil change on the familly truck for educational purposes. Being the know-it-all that we all were as teenagers, she told us to get lost and she could do it herself. My dad gave her a case of oil and a filter then left her to do the work.
Remarkably she did a pretty good job, drained the oil without making a big mess, got the oil filter off without a wimper, and put the drain plug in without cross threading or stripping the bolt, very good.
When she was done, my dad came out to see an empty case of oil and twelve emptys quarts of oil in the trash...OOPs. Yep she put the whole case of oil in a small block chevy! Dad was pissed!
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Damn Wrag, I'm a guy and I don't always read the instructions for things, but didn't the big letters on the side of the bottle saying Transmission Fluid kinda give you just a little hint???
Yeah I'm picking on ya but you have to kinda laugh a little bit about it. It is funny in a way.
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He reads like he sings !!
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I saw a beauty once when somebody changed the coolant in their car without flushing it first. They just dumped the bottom pipe and refilled it with the new coolant.
The car started to over heat almost immediately. Turns out the two coolants were incompatible and when they dumped the old stuff without flushing it they left about 20% of the original coolant in the system. This was enough to react with the new stuff and it turned it into a thick jelly like sludge :lol
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Then there's the tune-up .. oooyaaa .. new plugs, new wires, new cap and rotor ..ya bay-bee ..she's gonna sound *right*
Umm.. wouldnt start.
Not even a pop.
One more try I think left in the battery ..I look up
..and spy the shiny new rotor sittin on the fender near the windshield
..right where I'd put it after trashin the old one.
Ya.. that ol' 426 fired up on the last erg the battery had left.
-Frank aka GE
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Then there's the tune-up .. oooyaaa .. new plugs, new wires, new cap and rotor ..ya bay-bee ..she's gonna sound *right*
Umm.. wouldnt start.
Not even a pop.
One more try I think left in the battery ..I look up
..and spy the shiny new rotor sittin on the fender near the windshield
..right where I'd put it after trashin the old one.
Ya.. that ol' 426 fired up on the last erg the battery had left.
-Frank aka GE
:lol :aok Been there, done that.
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Damn Wrag, I'm a guy and I don't always read the instructions for things, but didn't the big letters on the side of the bottle saying Transmission Fluid kinda give you just a little hint???
Yeah I'm picking on ya but you have to kinda laugh a little bit about it. It is funny in a way.
Actually, when I looked at the bottle later, the bottle was MINUS any label.
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<snork, cough, choke , inhale> LMAO
2 words well ok make it 3 words I gotta say. you might know where it is from.
"You big Dummy." Fred G. Sanford
:rofl :rofl
Actually, when I looked at the bottle later, the bottle was MINUS any label.
the bottle was MINUS any label.
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Actually, when I looked at the bottle later, the bottle was MINUS any label.
I've got some unlabeled bottles filled with various fluids in my garage... You want to try pouring them into random reservoirs or should I just throw them out? :lol
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If one mistakenly puts power steering fluid into the brake fluid......
what are the usual results?
Best way to remedy the situation?
very very bad
get it out if the car hasn't been driven yet......do so VERY quickly.if it has, you're most likely going to need to replace every single piece in the braking system that contains rubber, as the power steerign fluid will destroy those seals....
PLEASE be careeful!
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Draw all the fluid out of the master cylinder that you can.... then replace with new fluid... then bleed the heck out of the lines. Do this as soon as possible. The power steering fluid will cause the rubber seals to swell locking everything up. If you wait too long you'll be replacing the calipers and master cylinder.
actaully, he'll need to replace anything rubber in the braking system. i've bee through this before..worked with a guy that did this in a taurus.......very very bad
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Well if you just poured it in AND you havent pushed the brake pedal, just use shop towels to absorb the steering fluid and get all out you can, IF you have pressed the brakes which will push the fluid thru the lines, then yes bleed the system till you see no more red fluid
power steering fluid is CLEAR not red. transmision fluid is red
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Vehicle was driven and operated .................
brakes didn't work too well..........
been about 3 days since this happened...........
started draining and flushing with brake fluid today......
stuff is all through the system............
gone through about 2/3 of a large container of brake fluid so far..........
all bleeders opened and flushed with fluid, now going to each individual bleeder (right rear 1st) and flushing as best I can..................
fluid still looks wrong think I better empty the master cylinder before going further....
who's car? yours, or were you doing a favor for a friend? you're going to have to replace EVERYTHING in the brake system that has rubber....the calipers, wheel cylinders, master cylindewr, all the rubber hoses, and possibly even the ABS unit if it has this. the power steering fluid swells then destroys the rubber components inthe brsaking system. i've been fixing cars(and other peoples F-ups for 25 years). not trying to be a wise asssss...just don't want you getting hurt or killed...
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So Wrag, did you not notice the power steering fluid was red and the brake was clear? ;)
POWER STEERING FLUID IS CLEAR, NOT RED. TRANSMISSION FLUID IS RED
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Some Power steering systems still use Dextron CAP ;)
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Some Power steering systems still use Dextron CAP ;)
i know...but very few and very far between. i don't think i've seen it called for on a regular basis for a long time. even if it were tranny fluid he put in there, he'd still need to replace all the rubber parts in the braking system.
and to all.......apologies for the caps lock on my previous post......i kinda tend to take my job(diagnosing and repairing cars and light trucks..now as a new shop owner) VERY seriously, as it's way too easy to mess up just the littlest thing, and hurt yourself, or someone else......helll....HID headlights can kill a guy if he's not careful replacing one of them.....
anyway, hope this all turns out ok for ya!! if you have any questions, you can feel free to PM me, here or if i happen to be ingame, and i'll do what i can to help ya
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OMG - This has been on this board this long and I didn't notice?
SNORK
Wrag - u didn't say anything last time we were on together?
I could have easily halted the need for anyone to take time out from their busy day to reply to you on this.
I could and would have said ....Well Dumb%%% ...you are &^%^ed.....giggle
Actually feeling sorry for you but not allowing it to actually become a problem in giving you crap about it...
What are squadies for if not to tell you what an ijot you are?
:rock
How did it endup for ya?
Newbs
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Welp
everyone is telling me I got to replace all the parts that have any rubber in em....
Lets seeeeee here
Master cylinder, rear wheels cylinderS, front disc breakS, and the flex lines in front................
That are gonna cost some monies :(
Those front flex lines are special after market extended steel BRAIDED lines too................
So we talkin some time and some money here...........
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Welp
everyone is telling me I got to replace all the parts that have any rubber in em....
Lets seeeeee here
Master cylinder, rear wheels cylinderS, front disc breakS, and the flex lines in front................
That are gonna cost some monies :(
Those front flex lines are special after market extended steel BRAIDED lines too................
So we talkin some time and some money here...........
wwhat kinda vehicle was it again?
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wwhat kinda vehicle was it again?
1984 Suzuki Samurai with a lift kit.
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lol really?
I got a 94 Samurai, bought new for $8995, sitting in the garage. still trying to decide whether to convert it to 2 wheel drive electric or leave it 4 wheel drive.
blew the original engine at around 73000 miles. the $3900 rebuilt engine (at the time, beats paying $6200 for a new engine.), I had to get, blew with around 31000 miles. thing just can't handle I-40 70 mph speeds for long (well not the way I drive anyway). far as I'm concerned the engines Suzuki installed, are junk.
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1984 Suzuki Samurai with a lift kit.
WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT IF YOU DO HIT ANYONE, it's so light, that it won't do any damage :rofl
seriously.......if you haven't already, you do need to change out all the ruber parts.....and DON'T FORGET TO FLUSH IT WHILE ALL THE RUBER STUFF IS OFF.
after that, you should be ok
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Step one-----Sell the car,
step two----or try and use a "turkey baster" and suck it out. if you have already driven the car a bit, the back to step one. :cry
My dad did this to his car a few years back, it ate at the gasket, and mucked everything up but good. he tried the car in and let the dealership deal with it.
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lmao just looked at Kelly Blue book.
good thing I didn't buy it for an investment.
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I knew someone who had a crappy Citroen. IIRC, the brakes and power steering shared the same fluid.
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I've got some unlabeled bottles filled with various fluids in my garage... You want to try pouring them into random reservoirs or should I just throw them out? :lol
ROFL!
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Welp
everyone is telling me I got to replace all the parts that have any rubber in em....
Lets seeeeee here
Master cylinder, rear wheels cylinderS, front disc breakS, and the flex lines in front................
That are gonna cost some monies :(
Those front flex lines are special after market extended steel BRAIDED lines too................
So we talkin some time and some money here...........
for all intents and purposes, you totaled it. cost ya more than it is worth, to fix.
I totaled mine twice. blew 2 engines.