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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LTARGlok on April 04, 2008, 07:37:37 PM
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It is amazing what modern scientists are now able to do. Who would believe that you could extra human DNA from 14,300 year old excrement? This research would tend to confirm this south central area in Oregon as being the oldest confirmed location of human habitation in North America. And that among other things, these humans ate horses, bison, squirrels, lizards, and fish.
See this story for details:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1207284906233450.xml&coll=7&thispage=1
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:huh
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I woulda been willing to take a dump into a specimen jar had they just asked.
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This discovery is about 2,000 years older than that of the Clovis people, who were discovered back in the late '30's, and previously thought to be the oldest people found living in North America.
This may thus well turn out to be the most significant archaeological discovery in North America in the last 70 years!!
Additional note:
The Bison and Horses that they ate were ancient species that now no longer exist. It is believed that ancient man may have hunted them into extinction.
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Why Oregon?
I mean, surely there is a whole bunch of poo out there...all over the world. Cavemen through to the birth of Mr. Crapper's invention, the modern toilet.
People would ineviatbly wander off and relieve themselves....everywhere.
Why is Oregon the home of ancient poo?
:noid
I'll bet it was a relative of SOB who curled one out in a specialy dug hole or something. Just so he could admire it for a while and then preserve it...almost like a monument.
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yeah, he posts here, his name is sig220 or something! :D
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Why Oregon?
I believe that almost everything NORTH of Oregon would have been covered in Glaciers back then.
After coming across the land bridge from Asia to Alaska along the coast, Oregon may have perhaps been the first temperate climate that humans came across and could thus settle in. This is roughly the time when the Pleistocene Glaciers started to recede.
At least that seems like one reasonable theory. But nothing is yet proven for sure.
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See Rules #4, #5
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Solid Line: Approximate extent of glaciation during last (Wisconsin) ice age.
Dotted Line: Approximate extent of earlier glaciations. Source: www.iceagenow.com
(http://www.metatech.org/Images/Ice_age_glaciation_map.jpg)
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Dude, you beat me to this line. Dammit. Okay, so I will say that the crappy attitude that MiniD has, that's why crap is king in Oregon. :D
Eh, feels forced, I'll give it a 3, though the East German judge is looking under the table for the -1 card.
The abundance of turds in Pierce County as evidenced on COPS just goes to show that the poo doesn't start at the Columbia.
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Eh, feels forced, I'll give it a 3, though the East German judge is looking under the table for the -1 card.
The abundance of turds in Pierce County as evidenced on COPS just goes to show that the poo doesn't start at the Columbia.
I won't argue with you on Pierce county. I live on the border of the "Meth Triangle", thus my willingness to carry and conceal. :aok
I *can* throw a rock and hit King county though, that's how close we live to the county line.
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Why Oregon?
It's not that ours is necessarily older, it's just that it don't stink.
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After coming across the land bridge from Asia to Alaska along the coast, Oregon may have perhaps been the first temperate climate that humans came across and could thus settle in.
I, for one, don't think that the land bridge ever existed. I'll save that for another thread though.
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I've got some fairly recent coprolites in my toilet right now... these will serve to indicate that modern man fed on smoked chubs, pretzels and Foster's Lager, really not too different from ancient humans.
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Do these specimins belong in Steve Martin's famous "Crap Museum"?
ROX
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I've got some fairly recent coprolites in my toilet right now... these will serve to indicate that modern man fed on smoked chubs, pretzels and Foster's Lager, really not too different from ancient humans.
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I, for one, don't think that the land bridge ever existed. I'll save that for another thread though.
Geology is tough to dispute. Plate Tectonics are a reality and proven. The "Land Bridge" is quite possibly the reason, when looking into the "Various Routes into the Americas".
I've also talked to people who are adamant that the Earth is only 14,000 years old. I show them a chunk of Banded Ironstone from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I tell them that "this Metamorphic Rock is 3.0 Billion Years old." Some of the oldest rock formations on this Earth are Banded Ironstone Formations. I'm a "rock hound" and hope to pass on my learnings to my son. Imagining the Appalachians in their heydey is garganutan to fathom. 27,000ft tall mountains now worn down to 6,000 ft in height.
For those in Oregon and Northern California, you can acquire the rarest of rocks. I forget the exact location, but you can get Glaucophane Schist. As most know, "Subduction of the sea floor creates the magma for the Cascade Region". Well, Blueschist or (Glaucophane Schist) forms when the Basaltic Ocean floor subducts under the N.A. Plate and it finds itself flipped on top of the N.A. Plate, in an violent counteraction.
I was in Oregon twice and forgot to grab a piece. :frown:
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I heard the discovery was found on the toilet floor of a Burger King.. anyone could verify this? :rolleyes:
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Dammm I'm so busted.
Okay I pooped in Oregon... so what?
Polish it... it will still be a turd.
Mac
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Here is a news photo, of this discovered pre-historic fossilized Poo from Oregon:
(http://southernledger.com/images_ap/79514991-e944-48c1-9c59-d6dcd03ef80d-889732ca-3870-4016-817d-1a8def7d28eb.jpg)
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Its always amazed me how scientists manage to find stuff.
Some things are obvious. A skull or legbone looks like a skill or legbone and is easy to spot as being different from the surrounding rock.
I mean being able to distinguish between a rock tool. and just a plain old rock.And stuff like that. And now between a literal load of crap and an old blub of mud
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kinda wierd and disturbing :huh
good ol' oregon. been there my whole life.
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Its always amazed me how scientists manage to find stuff.
Some things are obvious. A skull or legbone looks like a skill or legbone and is easy to spot as being different from the surrounding rock.
I mean being able to distinguish between a rock tool. and just a plain old rock.And stuff like that. And now between a literal load of crap and an old blub of mud
ohh, its not that hard. A rock is going to be hard. A coprolite is hard too, but when you break it open you are usually going to see a corn kernal or two in there. Plus, the coprolite will have a sort of stinky odor to it, whereas the rock won't.
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ohh, its not that hard. A rock is going to be hard. A coprolite is hard too, but when you break it open you are usually going to see a corn kernal or two in there. Plus, the coprolite will have a sort of stinky odor to it, whereas the rock won't.
You mean that the stink can actually last for 14,000 years? That would be amazing, if really true.
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oh yes. simple re-hydration with a sterile distillation of h2o will yield a detectable odor from any coprolite. But not all coprolites are the same, obviously. a coprolite composed of the excretions of the dietary residue of nuts and berries will differ significantly from the esters of a diet consisting largely of early mammals, reptiles or fish.
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No I mean to look at the ground. see a bunch of rocks and say "hey! That and ancient stone tool"
"or thats no blob of mud. its an ancient peice of chit"
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Dred, paleontologists spend their lives looking at material like this. I think they're hard scientists with a little dreamer mixed in....
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maybes its just a smelly rock. :noid
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This confirms that people from Oregon have a long history of not cleaning up after themselves.
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Wow is that toilet paper still stuck to it?
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Wow is that toilet paper still stuck to it?
My only question is this. Where is the raccoon that was used as the toilet paper?
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I can only imagine the look on the caveman's face that bowed up and produced the specimen in question.
Without benifit of Field & Stream, Hot Rod Magazine, or even the Sears catalog.....how DID he do it?
ROX
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I just discovered 14 hour old raccooon pooh in my koi pond and odly enough I'm missing a few fish.