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Title: Shoot the chutes
Post by: JagdTankker on April 06, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
I personally do not shoot the chutes in this game but some do.

I found this video just now and it sheds new light on the subject.

>S< to Richard " Bud " Peterson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8LVlYJ5eJU&feature=related
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Masherbrum on April 06, 2008, 02:28:23 PM
Depending on the fight, person, I have NO QUALMS on shooting the chute.   I'll even sometimes fire, but miss them allowing them to hang in a chute for 5-10 minutes if they bail high enough.   

I use to shoot them all of the time in AH1.   If you get shot in a chute, you're in a plane faster.   The only time I "bail" is when I take up the rare Ju-88 formation.   I don't bail in fighters, it only helps pad your score a little more than a death.   
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Osterich on April 06, 2008, 02:39:12 PM
Quote
I'll even sometimes fire, but miss them allowing them to hang in a chute for 5-10 minutes if they bail high enough.

Since you can end flight in a chute in AH2, I bail all the time from fighters.  If I loose a wing or a tail over 5K, I can re-up faster by bailing than by riding the plane into the ground.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BnZ on April 06, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
Shooting chutes is a waste of ammo and SA in AHII.

Bailing out to try and save your pilot when the plane is lost, to me that seems a realistic touch in good taste if one wants to bother. At least, it beats the BS of holding down the trigger trying to get a 1 in a million kill while spinning in or while a wing tank burns feet from the cockpit.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Sketch on April 06, 2008, 03:16:08 PM
Shooting chutes is a waste of ammo and SA in AHII.

How is it a waste of SA?  I know exactly where they enemy is... in the chute.... that I am shooting at!  :devil
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: badhorse on April 06, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
The only time I ever shoot someone hanging in a chute is if they bail out near a maproom of a base we are trying to take.  Don't want them getting inside and shooting our troops.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: StugIII on April 06, 2008, 03:37:40 PM
i don't shoot at chutes because more then likely if i get one kill and hes in the chute hes gonna get me 10 times over
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Pooh21 on April 06, 2008, 03:38:07 PM
I miss AH1 where chuteshooting was a source of lulz.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Larry on April 06, 2008, 03:45:24 PM
I always shoot chutes because I know what they can do to GVs, planes, and troops.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Masherbrum on April 06, 2008, 03:47:29 PM
Shooting chutes is a waste of ammo and SA in AHII.

Bailing out to try and save your pilot when the plane is lost, to me that seems a realistic touch in good taste if one wants to bother. At least, it beats the BS of holding down the trigger trying to get a 1 in a million kill while spinning in or while a wing tank burns feet from the cockpit.
Only reason MOST folks bail is to protect that "Holy and most Sacred of Scores".   Not to mention the tools who have 10 sorties of Vultches or Whordemongering and then resort to Attack in order to keep that "Supposedly good Fighter Rank".   

It's all relative, chutes, bailing, scoring, etc.   

But it really isn't a waste of ammo, if you know what to hit.   My guess is, you don't.   One well placed round is all it takes.   

The only time I ever shoot someone hanging in a chute is if they bail out near a maproom of a base we are trying to take.  Don't want them getting inside and shooting our troops.
Good point.    But let's not forget about chutes who are KNOWN and OBVIOUSLY giving 6's.    That in itself is another valid reason why "The Sissy Silk" is called just that.   
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 06, 2008, 03:51:13 PM
Shooting chutes is a waste of ammo and SA in AHII.


Shooting chutes is a great way to practice your gunnery skills.  The little dangling meatball is a small target, takes a nice steady hand on the stick to ensure the 20mm rounds impact on the meatball.  Besides, if chutes weren't meant to be blown up, they wouldn't have the coolest explosion in AH.


But the best reason of all to shoot chutes is that is pisses off the guy that bailed out and the whines and temper tantrums on Channel 200 make blowing up the little meatballs as they dangle below the silk priceless.  If you don't like it, don't bail out of your plane when you see a P-38 buzzing around or you just may get a 20mm in your gut.

ack-ack


Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: E25280 on April 06, 2008, 03:56:59 PM
I bail all the time due to what Osterich said.  Enter enter enter slash dot E F gets you in the tower and into another plane quicker than riding it down.

However, you will note I do not even hit "o" to open the chute . . . unless I have some sort of nefarious purpose, such as maproom camping.

Naturally, I assume anyone else has similarly nefarious purposes if they actually open the chute, and therefore are fair game.

This is a game, after all, and no one really dies . . . unlike the people referenced in the vid.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: RoGenT on April 06, 2008, 04:22:57 PM
The only time I ever shoot someone hanging in a chute is if they bail out near a maproom of a base we are trying to take.  Don't want them getting inside and shooting our troops.


This is the only time I'll ever kill chutes; or its troops from goon  :devil
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: lambo31 on April 06, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
Shooting chutes always makes me giggle.

Lambo
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: blkmgc on April 06, 2008, 05:39:54 PM
Shooting chutes is like Enzyte for e-peen.

I guess if you need it...
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 06, 2008, 05:50:44 PM
What's really funny is that those that whine against shooting chutes the most are the same exact dweebs that HO every chance they get.  Irony?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Halo46 on April 06, 2008, 06:02:22 PM
No, they are not. 
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: JagdTankker on April 06, 2008, 06:17:06 PM
i shoot at the chutes for about the same reasons listed in this thread.I will add one more, when it is a large furball the person in the chute can still give out check 6's and so on.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: hubsonfire on April 06, 2008, 06:43:05 PM
All of the above, and, it's fun when they blow up after you make them splode.  ;)
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: ink on April 06, 2008, 06:46:30 PM
i never shoot at chutes beside the fact that i wouldnt be able to hit one it leaves that one nme out of  the hourde longer.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BnZ on April 06, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
I hadn't considered the check6 from the chute angle. I figured most just bailed out. I always bail out if I have to come home with damage that will make landing dicey. It just makes more sense than getting your pilot killed trying to wrestle a drastically damaged plane onto the runway. Simple fix for check sixing chute riders is to disable radio and check6 functions for bailers until they end sortie, after all, I don't think chutes came equipped with radios.

Bailing is STILL less lame than riding a wingless hulk all the way to the ground holding the trigger down or trying to exploit the "burn for forever and day before blowing" bug some fighters have to get an extra kill, or worse, trying to ride said hulk as long as possible in the hopes the other guy will get killed before he gets credit for you. :D

This is a game, after all, and no one really dies . .

Just an observation,
I've heard this before, it is a truism. However, it is ALL pixels on a screen, no one really does ANYTHING. But it always seemed to me that if one doesn't play with at least a thought of getting your pilot home when possible, you might as well do such silly things as upping a 4 cannon bird and HOing everything 'till your wings fall off, completely forget about managing fuel, dive bomb heavy buff formations into bases, or "bomb and bail" in buffs, deliberately make all your jabo runs one-way, etc and so forth.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: wrongwayric on April 06, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
Yes, no, yes, no  :lol I'm going to agree and disagree with all on this one as they all make a sick kind of sense. If a guy gives me a good fight and bails and no cons around i usually just let him glide his chute down. :salute  If i see a chute next to my friendly field though then no matter what i'll shoot it as they send info and just plain are a nuisance.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Roundeye on April 06, 2008, 09:28:52 PM
Why on Earth would you let a spy hang over you and relay real-time intel back to their buddies, check six that plane you have in your sights and spot for GVs and ship guns?  Spies, the lot of them.  Kill 'em all.

Plus, like Ack-Ack says, they have the coolest explosion. :devil
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Masherbrum on April 06, 2008, 10:25:07 PM
I hadn't considered the check6 from the chute angle. I figured most just bailed out. I always bail out if I have to come home with damage that will make landing dicey. It just makes more sense than getting your pilot killed trying to wrestle a drastically damaged plane onto the runway. Simple fix for check sixing chute riders is to disable radio and check6 functions for bailers until they end sortie, after all, I don't think chutes came equipped with radios.

Bailing is STILL less lame than riding a wingless hulk all the way to the ground holding the trigger down or trying to exploit the "burn for forever and day before blowing" bug some fighters have to get an extra kill, or worse, trying to ride said hulk as long as possible in the hopes the other guy will get killed before he gets credit for you. :D

This is a game, after all, and no one really dies . .

Just an observation,
I've heard this before, it is a truism. However, it is ALL pixels on a screen, no one really does ANYTHING. But it always seemed to me that if one doesn't play with at least a thought of getting your pilot home when possible, you might as well do such silly things as upping a 4 cannon bird and HOing everything 'till your wings fall off, completely forget about managing fuel, dive bomb heavy buff formations into bases, or "bomb and bail" in buffs, deliberately make all your jabo runs one-way, etc and so forth.
Hold my trigger?    LMFAO, the ONLY time I will fire is if the person that shot me, is dumb enough to cross my crosshair.   

I GUARANTEE you that you have been the victim of a chute sending 6's. 
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: uptown on April 06, 2008, 11:10:20 PM
I shoot every chute i see for the simple reason that it take another set of eyes and ears out of the fight. I consider them a spy on a string. And not killing the chutes is why we have to strafe the maprooms before we let troops out.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: flubby on April 07, 2008, 12:58:47 AM
Killing chutes is dump, nothing more. You waste ammo and E.

Cu

Flubby
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Lusche on April 07, 2008, 01:33:06 AM
Killing chutes is dump, nothing more. You waste ammo and E.


Not always -

The enmy chute  over your Vbase that can scout for and can give directions to his GV friends down there will be shot by me
The enemy pilot that bailed near his own town to run to the maproom will get my bullet too
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Larry on April 07, 2008, 02:27:01 AM
Killing chutes is dump, nothing more. You waste ammo and E.

Cu

Flubby

Keep telling yourself that. Next time you wonder why those troops didnt take the town or how that guy knew right where your GV was look out for a little meatbag running around.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: sunfan1121 on April 07, 2008, 04:26:03 AM
I will shoot ack hugging, rundweeb, and HO tards shoots anytime.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: uptown on April 07, 2008, 04:34:32 AM
 :huh
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: SD67 on April 07, 2008, 04:51:06 AM
If you bail and hold off on pressing O until you see clear treetops you are only hanging for 2 seconds, then you are free to run to the map room or hide in a strategic location and send all the intel you like.
2 seconds is very close to the ground and no plane is going to risk following a falling pilot that far to see if he pops his chute :lol
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: LYNX on April 07, 2008, 05:17:51 AM
Can't remember if it was the beginning of AHII that the side arm became active.  Prior to that I never shot chutes but as soon as we got map room campers and runway stalkers the cuffs were off.  I'll shoot any chute over my field or town I'm attacking.... that's a given.  BB's is all I use.  Chutes in no mans land I'll pass up unless said chute was a total tw@ in a fight with me...revenge  ;)

As for bailing I'll do it only if the plane can't maintain flight or a reasonable chance of a ditch, then it's dot EF no "o" and straight to tower to go again.  No messing about and I'd still do it if there was no score for me to preciously worry about :rolleyes: .  The only time I'll "ride it in" is if I'm to low to bail.   As for those that habitually "ride it in" their 1 of 2 things.  Newbies that know no better and those with some kind of score statement to make.  Either way it doesn't bother me.  It's their time their waisting.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: SD67 on April 07, 2008, 05:42:07 AM
LOL Runway Stalkers...
I'd totally forgotten about that. Who hasn't felt the joy of killing pilots as they roll with their .45?
:lol
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: ColKLink on April 07, 2008, 06:19:12 AM
I need to get back to shooting chutes. I tried being nice, thats no fun. :t
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: lagger86 on April 07, 2008, 06:46:20 AM
If I do bail, I never even open my chute...I just .ef....if somebody is taking the time to open their chute and float to the ground then they are up to something, and that something isn't good.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: bongaroo on April 07, 2008, 09:07:47 AM
I nailed someones chute in fso one time, good laughs.

If it were real life I wouldn't shoot someone who had bailed, they are already out of the fight.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: DrDea on April 07, 2008, 09:09:19 AM
 If it was a good fight I wont shoot the meatwad but if it some ho sped I'll wack em.Didnt even concider the forward observer aspect but now a days I guess ya have to.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: moot on April 07, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
So much ado about nothing.. You'd think this was a religious topic, or something..
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: CHAPPY on April 07, 2008, 09:29:33 AM
Always Kills chutes

 :noid
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Sketch on April 07, 2008, 10:27:24 AM
All of the above, and, it's fun when they blow up after you make them splode.  ;)
Nope, he had diarreha :rofl
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BarryBD on April 07, 2008, 10:53:48 AM
I'm app. a woos...

I bail when necessary, just to save the pilot (myself)... for no other reason than that
I do not shoot at bailed pilots...
I do not vulch, for no reason what so ever...
I don't even fly my bomber in the ground when it dropped it's egg's...
I even try to land every single sortie (when I'm not killed :D), not for score, but out of respect for planes...
I see it as a challenge to land a heavely damaged plane (gliding in is a thrill)

The only exception I make is a goon dropping his troops, then I try to take out the chutes...


It's not a game, someone told me, it's a sim...
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Krusty on April 07, 2008, 11:05:37 AM
I bail when my craft is dead. I don't give a crap about score. (though, I do enjoy stats, comparing certain things)

I fly back to a base after a 40 minute sortie even if I have no kills.

I fly a plane til it's dead.

I don't auger.

I don't ride it in.

I don't/rarely spray my guns while going down or floating arse-first into the ground.

I fly a plane home 2 sectors without oil or radiator.

I don't give a rat's about SCORE, to me it is just part of the immersion/fun. If all you do is run to the fight, HO some tard, and die, rinse & repeat, there's no point in playing AH over FA. Hell, what do we even need gear for? Why not have air spawns in the middle of the furball???

I bail for the same reason I take off and land, for the same reason I take enough fuel to make it home afterwards.

Because if you don't have these things the game is just too arcadish.

Has nothing to do with giving check6s, nothing to do with camping runways, nothing to do with scores (you're down, the kill has been awarded, end of story for me). It has everything to do with immersion, personal preference, and frankly, because I want to, dammit!
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: 5PointOh on April 07, 2008, 11:26:33 AM
I will stick with my plane until there is no control at all, for me sometimes half the fun is limping a plane home on one engine, oil spewing, control surfaces gone, no gears, no guns, and half a wing (which I wish smaller damage portion could occur).  I do this for the same reason as Krusty.  Its the immersion/fun part. The other day I flew a 17 back to base 1 engine, no rudder, 1 gear, most of the gunners dead, to make a super smooth belly landing.  Took 50min for the RTB trip, but was very enjoyable to me.


As for shooting the chute, I will ping them if they bail over town, or if they are by my gv annoying me with there bb gun.  :aok
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Messiah on April 07, 2008, 12:08:02 PM
LOL for crying out loud it's a cartoon airplane game.  I think it's hilarious when someone goes through the effort to shoot my chute and even more funny when I'm on the giving end of things.  Plus there's the occasional chance the guy will collide with your chute, which leads to great times on ch 200!.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Xasthur on April 07, 2008, 12:26:29 PM
I bail when my craft is dead. I don't give a crap about score. (though, I do enjoy stats, comparing certain things)

I fly back to a base after a 40 minute sortie even if I have no kills.

I fly a plane til it's dead.

I don't auger.

I don't ride it in.

I don't/rarely spray my guns while going down or floating arse-first into the ground.

I fly a plane home 2 sectors without oil or radiator.

I don't give a rat's about SCORE, to me it is just part of the immersion/fun. If all you do is run to the fight, HO some tard, and die, rinse & repeat, there's no point in playing AH over FA. Hell, what do we even need gear for? Why not have air spawns in the middle of the furball???

I bail for the same reason I take off and land, for the same reason I take enough fuel to make it home afterwards.

Because if you don't have these things the game is just too arcadish.

Has nothing to do with giving check6s, nothing to do with camping runways, nothing to do with scores (you're down, the kill has been awarded, end of story for me). It has everything to do with immersion, personal preference, and frankly, because I want to, dammit!


Here, here! 100% agreed.

I never bother to shoot chutes.

If they're trying to prevent a town cap... fair game. Otherwise... I wouldn't waste my time.

I .ef out of a bail, I never open the chute.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Delirium on April 07, 2008, 12:30:37 PM
I always kill chutes (unless it is a scenario), anyone that pulls a chute in the MA is interested in their score only.

I may make an exception if they gave me a good fight, but those that do never bail out anyway.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: flubby on April 07, 2008, 01:10:44 PM
I always kill chutes (unless it is a scenario), anyone that pulls a chute in the MA is interested in their score only.

I may make an exception if they gave me a good fight, but those that do never bail out anyway.

I wonder ithat it is libelous to look for the score. If you shoot the plane down, you get the kill, so you got what you deserved to get. Why you donīt begrudge him his virtual live? Is it wrong to bail? Is this quake or Aces High?

Regards

Flubby
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Yknurd on April 07, 2008, 01:16:25 PM
Shooting chutes gives me a woody.

Someone going ballistic on channel 200 results in me having to clean my monitor.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: toonces3 on April 07, 2008, 01:23:52 PM
I wonder ithat it is libelous to look for the score. If you shoot the plane down, you get the kill, so you got what you deserved to get. Why you donīt begrudge him his virtual live? Is it wrong to bail? Is this quake or Aces High?

Regards

Flubby

Because Flubby.  If you admit that you even LOOK at your score, you're not cool.

In order to be one of the cool guys, you have to not care about your score AND look down your nose at those who do.

It's all about being uber-cool man.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: LCCajun on April 07, 2008, 01:41:41 PM
I just want that when I shoot a chute it causes the pilot to fall helplessly to the ground killing him on impact lmao. Not for it to blow up.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Lusche on April 07, 2008, 02:03:46 PM
I wonder ithat it is libelous to look for the score. If you shoot the plane down, you get the kill, so you got what you deserved to get. Why you donīt begrudge him his virtual live? Is it wrong to bail? Is this quake or Aces High?

Regards

Flubby

You still seem to fail to note that a bailed pilot isn't neccesarily out of the fight...

It's not wrong to bail. Have fun floating down and have a nice view. But if you bail over your town we are attacking, I give you 5 seconds to hit .ef. I don't wanna hear "WTF? troops didn't take!?!?" because I allowed you to use your .45.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: zoozoo on April 07, 2008, 02:11:23 PM
this isnbt rea life actual dying you know, just a computer game
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Krusty on April 07, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
You still seem to fail to note that a bailed pilot isn't neccesarily out of the fight...

For the most part it is.

The rare exceptions are when it's close enough to a field that it can walk to it, or if it's using its own icon to stand next to enemy GVs (this is lame, but I've seen it) for targetting.

Both of these take forever. On "foot" you probably travel across a map tile in about 30 minutes.

As for check6s? So what. If he's not, anybody else is. You can't get angry when your target realizes you're there. No difference from him getting a tingle with his spidey-sense and looking behind himself, or getting a c6 from somebody flying nearby but not in his fight, or from a chute floating down. That's a non-issue.

Once in the chute, they are pretty much out of the fight unless they land RIGHT on top of another fight.


EDIT: For the record I don't shoot much, but when I do I don't have any qualms about it. More a habit than anything, no real moral outrage. I find it funny that folks are in such a furor over chutes today. They're basically a nonentity. The chute is out of the fight 99.9999% of the time. I bet that's about the same chance of a stricken plane shooting you with its cannons as it floats down tailless.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: flubby on April 07, 2008, 02:59:19 PM
You still seem to fail to note that a bailed pilot isn't neccesarily out of the fight...

It's not wrong to bail. Have fun floating down and have a nice view. But if you bail over your town we are attacking, I give you 5 seconds to hit .ef. I don't wanna hear "WTF? troops didn't take!?!?" because I allowed you to use your .45.

I never shoot unarmed enemys except transport planes ;)

Cu

Flu
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Bronk on April 07, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
If it has a red icon, it's getting shot at. :aok
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 07, 2008, 04:14:13 PM
I just want that when I shoot a chute it causes the pilot to fall helplessly to the ground killing him on impact lmao. Not for it to blow up.

Personally, I'd love to be able to fly into a meatball dangling at the end of the chute with my props and watch the meatball get grinded into ground meat.  The whines on Channel 200 would be epic.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: angelsandair on April 07, 2008, 04:34:46 PM
anyone else seeing the comments some of those guys are saying. Its pretty bad. Calling the P-51 pilot a "war criminal".
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Masherbrum on April 07, 2008, 04:48:40 PM
I never shoot unarmed enemys except transport planes ;)

Cu

Flu
I take it you've never been sent to the tower by a person shooting the .45 into cockpits?   I haven't, but have witnessed it on MANY occasions.   
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: pluck on April 07, 2008, 04:56:17 PM
as one of my favorite topics, I couldn't stand the chance just to post.  Pretty much got it all covered there.  It's hard to imagine this topic gets some people so so mad.  Not sure why people feel that shooting up a virtual plane is not as bad as shooting up a virtual pilot.  Heck, we shoot those drunks left and right and they are not even armed...and also they are virtual to.  And if one more person tells me that I am not an armed combatant when in a chute they are making a serious mistake...I carry the 45 for a reason!  btw, no one is really getting hurt, you should take it for what it is....video game fun.  I'm putting my money on the meat bomb next time, I know it's a long shot, but the payout is great.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: JagdTankker on April 07, 2008, 05:48:28 PM
although it is a rare accurance, shooting the plane that is trying to shoot you in the chute with the .45 is preety cool.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: nopoop on April 07, 2008, 10:26:37 PM
Real men ride it in.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: angelsandair on April 07, 2008, 10:40:14 PM
I do know that the Japanese did this a lot. But almost never hear of it on the European theatre compared to the Pacific theatre.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Larry on April 07, 2008, 10:41:56 PM
I take it you've never been sent to the tower by a person shooting the .45 into cockpits?   I haven't, but have witnessed it on MANY occasions.   


Vulching with a chute is the most fun you will ever have in AH. :D
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: flubby on April 08, 2008, 12:54:23 AM
I do know that the Japanese did this a lot. But almost never hear of it on the European theatre compared to the Pacific theatre.

It happened in every theatre, and every side did it. Germans report that allied pilots shoot at them, as allied reported the same from the germans.

Cu

Flubby
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 08, 2008, 02:29:18 AM
I do know that the Japanese did this a lot. But almost never hear of it on the European theatre compared to the Pacific theatre.


You should read the Blonde Knight.  Hartmann tells a story of a German pilot that was forced to ditch his plane in a field and of a Soviet fighter that landed nearby.  The Soviet pilot gets out of his plane, strolls to the German plane, climbs up on the wing and proceeds to stab the German pilot to death.  The Soviet pilot then hops off the wing, strolls back to his plane and takes off.   

During the Battle of Britain, RAF planes used to strafe and shoot down German sea rescue boats.  Someone posted a link in another thread of a P-51 pilot watching a German fighter shoot a B-17 crew after they bailed out and he described how he forced the same German to bail out just so he could shoot the guy in his own parachute. 


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Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Nilsen on April 08, 2008, 03:33:35 AM
I used to dislike chute shooters alot, but now i have become one. Ive seen far too many of them walking around acting like FACs and even shooting troops in the maproom. I know, because i do it myself.  :P

If they bail in the middle of nowere and high ill leave them to float down.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: JagdTankker on April 08, 2008, 07:58:43 AM

 Someone posted a link in another thread of a P-51 pilot watching a German fighter shoot a B-17 crew after they bailed out and he described how he forced the same German to bail out just so he could shoot the guy in his own parachute. 


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Dee Da Dee ! ! ! ! ! !   that's this thread :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Spazzter on April 08, 2008, 09:59:45 AM
Only reason MOST folks bail is to protect that "Holy and most Sacred of Scores".   Not to mention the tools who have 10 sorties of Vultches or Whordemongering and then resort to Attack in order to keep that "Supposedly good Fighter Rank".   

It's all relative, chutes, bailing, scoring, etc.   

But it really isn't a waste of ammo, if you know what to hit.   My guess is, you don't.   One well placed round is all it takes.   
Good point.    But let's not forget about chutes who are KNOWN and OBVIOUSLY giving 6's.    That in itself is another valid reason why "The Sissy Silk" is called just that.   

I couldn't Agree more Karaya.  I love the so-called fighter jocks that fly limited fighter sorties and get this uber K/D then fly atack the rest of the tour.  If you really want to know how well you fly then fly everything in fighter mode, attack sorties included and strive to stay alive.  If you can manage a decent K/D ratio then you might be able to call yourself a fighter.  I fly all my sorties in Fighter mode, it let's me guage my own flying and is more of a real measure than switching to pad my score like most do now.  The great thing about it is that most of us that have been around long enough know exactly who those people are.

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Spazz
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Sketch on April 08, 2008, 10:16:03 AM
I take it you've never been sent to the tower by a person shooting the .45 into cockpits?   I haven't, but have witnessed it on MANY occasions.   
A 262 incident comes to mind.... :noid
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Rich46yo on April 08, 2008, 10:17:18 AM
                   Funny but Ive probably seen only one of two chutes shot in the game. I believe the only time one should be shot is if hes rides it all the way down near a town cause you just know hes going to set up in the map room. Whenever I hit a chute I tower out right away cause I aint about to walk my cartoon pilot over to a maproom, with his little .45. I remember I was sitting in a M16 once and I kept hearing little "pings". I swiveled around and saw this little cartoon guy shooting at my GV with a big smile on his face, at which time I hit him with enough 0.50 rounds to turn him into Katenrauchwurst. It was actually hilarious.

                  Every other time tho? I would never shoot a chute. I know its just a cartoon game but shooting one is kinda lowlife, much like a lot of the game play Im seeing in the MAs. I guess there just isnt any peer pressure in these games to fly and fight like gentlemen. OR talk like one in the comms. Pretty sad dudes! This game is actually inching lower instead of getting better.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BnZ on April 08, 2008, 12:31:06 PM
I I fly all my sorties in Fighter mode, it let's me guage my own flying and is more of a real measure than switching to pad my score like most do now.  <S>
Spazz

Uh, if you fly in fighter mode, and come upon the need to gun some ack/buildings, or shoot a troop transport, or go ona PT boad turkey hunt, you won't get any credit for it in fighter mode. So every sortie should instead be flown as "attack".
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: texasmom on April 08, 2008, 02:18:16 PM
I'm highly amused by the pilots once they've finished their 1/2 hour drop to the ground, then walk around.  I do always shoot them once they've hit the ground though :)
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: hubsonfire on April 08, 2008, 02:42:34 PM
See, even Mom's a war criminal! This barbarism knows no bounds!  ;)
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: -SR- on April 08, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
Blast away! Whatever pos your chute. It's a game. :salute


-SR-
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Tr1gg22 on April 09, 2008, 09:01:41 AM
shoot em they are like spies!!! They can still ck 6 there buddies...To me that makes em a good target :devil
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: croduh on April 09, 2008, 09:07:05 AM
I don't need no stinking prisioners
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: captain1ma on April 09, 2008, 09:35:12 AM
All's fair in Love and War. sometimes i shoot chutes, sometimes i dont. just depends on how I feel at the time. my 2 cents
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Elfie on April 09, 2008, 11:53:25 AM
I never used to shoot chutes. I shoot them all now simply because once they bail they have the option to tower out. If they don't tower out immediately I assume they are staying in their chute because they either want to stay and give check 6's or....they want to be shot in their chute.  :D

I bail all the time from crippled fighters, then I tower out so I can up faster for revenge.  :rock
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Masherbrum on April 09, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
Uh, if you fly in fighter mode, and come upon the need to gun some ack/buildings, or shoot a troop transport, or go ona PT boad turkey hunt, you won't get any credit for it in fighter mode. So every sortie should instead be flown as "attack".
Uh, you realize you proved my point to a "T" right?   

 

Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BaldEagl on April 09, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
I fly fighters to protect my attack score.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: BnZ on April 09, 2008, 05:04:02 PM
Hey, if you're gonna fly into ack, GV fire, and gawd-knows-what else, to shoot something on the ground, it might as well at least show. :D

Me, I've gone to flying all my sorties, no matter what I'm doing, as "attack", because I sort of got caught the notion that I always have bad luck/screw up when flying them as "fighter". I understand this is completely irrational superstition, but man does not live by rationality alone. This does not make for a great fighter score, but no one cares about anyone's score anyway.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: SmithyUK on April 10, 2008, 02:21:54 PM
The only time I shoot troops is either whe, like most people said, the chute is near an enemy maproom. OR if the chute comes from a base attacker and is obviously telling his country what is upping and how to divert to avoid the defending fighters.

Other then that I ive them a little airshow/
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 16, 2008, 12:13:29 AM
I don't understand why people ride there planes all the way to the ground, when your plane is missing a wing and falling to the ground bail and tower out to give credit to the guy that killed you.  I always bail after my plane is no longer flyable, not because I care about my score, but as a sign of respect to the guy that killed me, to make sure he gets the credit for killing me, instead of riding my plane down from 10k, I'll bail out but won't open my chute, I just tower out.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Spazzter on April 16, 2008, 08:45:56 AM
Uh, if you fly in fighter mode, and come upon the need to gun some ack/buildings, or shoot a troop transport, or go ona PT boad turkey hunt, you won't get any credit for it in fighter mode. So every sortie should instead be flown as "attack".

Bnz,

I am strictly talking about K/D ratio not whether or not I receive points for shooting buildings.  I measure the success of my flying by K/D ratio and kills per sortie and work to get the highest number possible in those categories.  Everything else is irrelevant.  I don't care if I drop bombs on a town and receive points, if I did then I would care about my rank, which I don't.  By flying all my sorties in fighter mode I get an accurate measure of K/D and Kills per sortie.  I could do the same if I flew everythig in attack mode also.  My point is that a lot of people fly limited sorties in fighter mode and vulch to get a high K/D so they can have a high ranking.  My argument is that if you want to really measure your skill fly all sorties in fighter mode and see how you do then when everything counts against you.  Hope that explained my thought clearly, if not I apologize.

<S>
Spazz
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 16, 2008, 10:47:33 AM
One thing though, if your flying in fighter mode and say you kill a gv, you don't get any credit for it, you don't even get it added to your kills, the only way to have gv kills added to you k/d ratio is to do it in attack mode.  Say I know that I'm upping a heavy fighter to kill a gv, you need to score it in attack mode for it to be added to your k/d ratio, otherwise it's like the kill never happened.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: bongaroo on April 16, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I'm still trying to get a kill with that 45 pistol.  People always shoot me in my chute when i've bailed near a field  :(
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 16, 2008, 11:05:27 AM
I'm still trying to get a kill with that 45 pistol.  People always shoot me in my chute when i've bailed near a field  :(
Hold off on opening your chute until your only 1k off the deck, gives them less time to shot you.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: NOT on April 16, 2008, 11:10:24 AM
Quote
to make sure he gets the credit for killing me

unless he dies before you hit the ground, he will get credit for the kill. if he dies before you hit the ground, he doen't deserve to get the kill.







NOT
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 16, 2008, 11:16:24 AM
unless he dies before you hit the ground, he will get credit for the kill. if he dies before you hit the ground, he doen't deserve to get the kill.







NOT
Yeah, but I just feel like it's a show of respect to bail out after your plane is no longer flyable to give the guy that killed you the credit, plus whats the point of riding my plane all the way to the ground, I mean I will if I'm only a couple K off the deck, but above that I'll bail and tower out.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Yknurd on April 17, 2008, 12:19:52 PM
You're kinda slow aren't you?
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 17, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
You're kinda slow aren't you?
:huh, the only thing I can even think of that your referring to is that at the end of his post it says "NOT", but that his name that he ends all his posts with, not a statement.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Furball on April 18, 2008, 02:04:45 AM
Chutes are a legitimate target because they are armed, that .45 can do a lot of damage you know.


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/71_1165600036_bail.jpg)
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Snork on April 18, 2008, 04:24:35 AM
You're kinda slow aren't you?

Slow, maybe, but quick enough to know that without a quote of who you're talking to your "reply" is meaningless.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: LCCajun on April 18, 2008, 05:16:45 AM
Real men ride it in.

Should've thought about this a lil longer before u posted it.  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Yknurd on April 18, 2008, 11:43:14 AM
My post is direct at the party it was referring to.

And my post had nothing to do with anything quoted.

I was stating an observation.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Mr No Name on April 18, 2008, 11:56:15 AM
my squad has a rule against it but i shoot every one i hace a chance to hit.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: RumbleB on April 18, 2008, 12:33:02 PM
bail + /.ef + enter macro. problem solved.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 18, 2008, 12:34:46 PM
My post is direct at the party it was referring to.

And my post had nothing to do with anything quoted.

I was stating an observation.
So who was it directed at, because you really weren't clear on that.  Thats what Snork was saying about you not using a quote, without one no one knows who your referring to.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Yknurd on April 18, 2008, 12:42:34 PM
point = proven
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 18, 2008, 01:37:04 PM
point = proven
Again your not making alot of sense there.  I'm slow because I said that I'll bail out to give credit for the kill to the person who shot me down, instead of riding my plane to the ground?

Plus what could have been the reason for even posting a comment like that in the first place, are you 12 or something?
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Yknurd on April 18, 2008, 02:02:17 PM
I see you edited your post.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: trax1 on April 18, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
I see you edited your post.
You still haven't answered anything.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: JETBLST on April 18, 2008, 05:28:20 PM
Thanks for getting this video to us!  I don't shoot, chutes.  Might be a newb like me trying to learn a thing or five.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: spit16nooby on April 18, 2008, 06:43:44 PM
I love bailing over capped bases then shooting people as they come out of the hanger. :lol

I think people would rather get killed on takeoff than by a 45 into the cockpit.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Halo46 on April 18, 2008, 08:34:42 PM
Chutes are a legitimate target because they are armed, that .45 can do a lot of damage you know.


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Maximum effective range of an M1911 .45 cal pistol is 50 yards or so. Don't fly so close even if it is longer in game. This sounds like the HO debate.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Furball on April 19, 2008, 03:39:24 AM
Maximum effective range of an M1911 .45 cal pistol is 50 yards or so. Don't fly so close even if it is longer in game. This sounds like the HO debate.

50 yards?!  :O

Chutes are more dangerous that i originally thought, i will have to shoot them from further out  :noid
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Dorofeychuk on July 02, 2008, 02:16:00 PM
Ive been reading the "shoot the chutes" topic for quite a time. I myself do not shoot chutes, unless they are bailing near a maproom. I think if they bail they should live for the very reasons of one. They credit you with the kill, and two makes the game have a realistic sense to it. I think the whole issue is over the .45. now, taking the .45 away will probably not make people stop shooting chutes, but I think would help. I mean besides shooting the troops in the maproom and killing people taking off from the runway, whats the real point of the .45? I think they should just get rid of it. I really see no point in having the .45.  just my two cents.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: whiteman on July 02, 2008, 02:32:12 PM
last night a pilot on the run way gave me a pilot wound while taking off. Every chute I see near my field will now die!
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 02, 2008, 04:05:31 PM
whats the real point of the .45? I think they should just get rid of it. I really see no point in having the .45.  just my two cents.

The .45 was added to give the little meat ball a chance to defend himself from mean people like me that love to shoot someone dangling helplessly in a parachute.


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Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Dorofeychuk on July 02, 2008, 04:42:40 PM
well If I'm going to defend myself against a plane while in a chute, I think I would rather have a S.A.M. :rofl or maybe even a beer can. :D
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Getback on July 02, 2008, 04:57:30 PM
I try to hold chutes as hostages. Usually to get to their gold or to fish for a compliment, "Is my plane pretty?" If the answer is incorrect I fire a few shots overhead until I get the correct answer.

I also kill them if they bail over a town that we are trying to capture. I've lost too many takes to a chute hanging out in the maproom.
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: CAP1 on July 02, 2008, 05:02:34 PM
I DON't shoot the chutes, because chances are good that if i managed to force you to bail, i'm probably losing very very many parts that are important to flight. this way when i bail, i have company on the way down :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Shoot the chutes
Post by: Dorofeychuk on July 02, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
I try to hold chutes as hostages. Usually to get to their gold or to fish for a compliment, "Is my plane pretty?" If the answer is incorrect I fire a few shots overhead until I get the correct answer.

You will never get my gold getback.... :noid