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Title: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DEAR98 on April 06, 2008, 08:52:16 PM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Sikboy on April 06, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
Why on earth does the Tampoon need to be perked?

-Sik
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: moot on April 06, 2008, 08:59:02 PM
Sounds like you need a decent replacement for more than your avatar...
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DaddyAck on April 06, 2008, 09:36:12 PM
Why? They are not that hard to kill.  Same as anything else the machine has some to do with it but the magority is pilot skill and circumstances such as how the fight is set up.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: BnZ on April 06, 2008, 09:44:02 PM
The outstanding qualities of the Typhoon come down to 1. It is very fast right around 6K, and 2. It has great guns. Its "chin" radiator is the worst flaw imaginable in a ground attack aircraft. One round in there and you won't be flying it home.

Alot of planes out-climb it, alot of planes out-run it, at least above the weeds, and alot of planes out-turn it. Everything outrolls it. LA-7 does all of the above.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Karnak on April 06, 2008, 09:48:47 PM
Everything outrolls it.
I'm not sure, but I think it slightly out rolls the Lancaster.


 :P
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DaddyAck on April 06, 2008, 10:03:36 PM
 :rofl

Hehehe......
You have a point there.  :aok
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: moot on April 06, 2008, 10:05:23 PM
FWIW, it will out-roll a V1..
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: BnZ on April 06, 2008, 10:21:28 PM
and only made in small numbers.

Of course you realize, if we take numbers of fighters produced into account with perk/eny, the FW190 D9 will be perked, the P-51D will have an eny of 20, the Jug will be a 60, and they will litterally GIVE you perk points for taking off in a 109. :D
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DoNKeY on April 06, 2008, 10:54:19 PM
and they will litterally GIVE you perk points for taking off in a 109. :D

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: stodd on April 06, 2008, 11:04:54 PM
"Typh is perked"

Nope its not.
 
"It was never a great fighter"

Then why perk it if its not a good fighter you should have nothing to worry about.

"So I say perk both at 60"

If you gave both the same perk cost I doubt you would see many typh's simply because the speed was so much faster on temp.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 06, 2008, 11:46:32 PM
Perk the Typh = I got my arse handed back to me by someone flying a Typhoon.  Since I cannot defeat it in legitimate aerial combat, I must demand that it be perked so I don't get shot down by one again.  While I am at it, I would like to request the La-7 be perked for the same reasons.


Basically that's the main gist of his request to perk the Typhoon.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DPQ5 on April 06, 2008, 11:48:36 PM
lol
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DaddyAck on April 07, 2008, 12:39:58 AM
Perk the Typh = I got my arse handed back to me by someone flying a Typhoon.  Since I cannot defeat it in legitimate aerial combat, I must demand that it be perked so I don't get shot down by one again.  While I am at it, I would like to request the La-7 be perked for the same reasons.


Basically that's the main gist of his request to perk the Typhoon.


ack-ack

Priceless......
 :rofl
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: BnZ on April 07, 2008, 01:04:30 AM
  While I am at it, I would like to request the La-7 be perked for the same reasons.



ack-ack

Actually, the fact that the unperked LA-7 is so much stronger than the Typh as a fighter was one of the reasons I
consider perking the Typh a funny notion.

The two planes are not comparable Ack. I'd say almost every other true late war fighter has some sort of important, fight balancing advantage over the Typhie, whether it is turn, speed (except at one, very low alt), or a strong climb advantage, and often has two. Why, the lowly FW 190-A5 can outclimb the thing given an even break.

The same cannot be said of the LA7. Lets face it, below 8K in a fair fight (co-alt, co-e 1v1 between equal pilots), you may be okay in a plane that is fairly equal or superior in angles fighting, (planes from which the La7 can
typically disengage with ease), but your other late war high-speed E fighters are essentially rendered obsolete at low (typical MA) altitude.

In a non-perk ride, one cannot out-run an LA7. One cannot out-run a Tempest. The Tempest is the easier to fight when it gets down to brass tacks. The latter is the highest priced prop ride in the game, the former has no perk...hmmm...not making much sense is it?

Since you are certain to break out a condescending implication about myself and the skill level of all those who think the perk situation regarding the LA-7 is unreasonable, I will, if it becomes nessecary, require directions on how and where to upload film of myself defeating LA-7 with the FW190A5 in a co-alt co-e 1v1. This is not a brag or a challenge, it is simply to show I know it is POSSIBLE to win even such ridiculously lop-sided engagments if the opponent makes enough mistakes. As it was, a lack of throttle control, and mistakes in merging on my opponent's part, and amazing shooting,much better than I am usually capable of on my part were required. The opponent was decidely less experienced, but still stood a decent chance due to the aircraft. Or would you argue that the opponents chance of victory would have been the same if the rides were reversed?

I'm not trying to insult you or demean your experience here. I know you have alot more time invested in this game
than my meager 1.5 years. Perhaps you could easily defeat my LA7 in a duel in the weeds flying a 190A8. The question to ask though, is could Ack-Ack defeat Ack-Ack's LA7 at low alt in a Pony/190/Tiff/Jug/109G/K 50% or more of the time? Or would the Ack-Ack clone flying the La-7 tend to get the best of these fights? Answer honestly. You certainly don't have to agree that that the La-7 should be perked, but I don't think anyone can reasonably argue that the idea of perking such a powerful fighter is beyond the pale.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: SD67 on April 07, 2008, 03:11:59 AM
I fly the La7 a lot since it is a 9GIAP aircraft, but since a lot of n00bs fly it and they are generally as easy to kill as I am, why should HT bother to perk it?
Yeah it's 5ENY and that just means more perks for you mid to low ENY pilots who kill it. It really won't bother me at all if it does get perked, but I do like to get the perks from knocking the n00bs out of the sky in them too. A perked La7 means less high perk kills.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: angelsandair on April 07, 2008, 07:37:24 AM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60

personally, I dont think the Typhs eny should even be 10. The P-47D40s eny should be 10. not 20, switch em.  :devil
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Blammo on April 07, 2008, 09:04:19 AM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60

 :huh :confused: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Xasthur on April 07, 2008, 11:33:29 AM
Typhoons are absolute rubbish. Whenever I see one I think "easy kill". They only danger they present is the the 4 x Hizooka cannon package.

If you fly with half a brain the guns won't get near you. Thus, it is an utterly useless aircraft.

I'm overstating things slightly here but for all intents and purposes it doesn't matter, the Typhoon will never be perked.

It doesn't have an undue influence on the game and that is all there is to it.

Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: E25280 on April 07, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
Two observations:

1)  Anyone who thinks the typhoon needs to be perked doesn't understand that a Tempest will show as "TYPH" until it is close enough.  Mistaken identity is the only explanation that makes any sense (at least to my pea sized brain).

2)  Someone needs to tell BnZ to go back and re-read Ack-Acks post s l o w l y because he missed Ack-Ack's point by a wide margin.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Pannono on April 07, 2008, 07:31:15 PM
i use em for ground attack mostly
if i gotta get somewhere fast and get out fast, but still hittin it hard, i use typh.
its fast, has 4x hizookas, but is slow to get top speed, poor on fuel, has a almost nonexistant roll rate, bad climber, bleeds E in turns quickly and has a fragile radiator
most people think they are the same as tempests, but that cant be further from the truth. Temp is a 100% improvement
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Masherbrum on April 07, 2008, 08:03:01 PM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60
Wow.    You know how to use "periods".   Let's try and work on the fragmented sentences. 

It never was a great "fighter" because it was a great "ground attack" aircraft.   

Typhoon is NOT perked, the Tempest IS perked.

Only two people that are recognizable in a Tiffie are Coach and Betty.   

Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: BnZ on April 07, 2008, 09:43:43 PM

2)  Someone needs to tell BnZ to go back and re-read Ack-Acks post s l o w l y because he missed Ack-Ack's point by a wide margin.

Sir, insult is the last refuge of the out-argued, and is already both ubiquitous and pathetic all over the internet. Let's keep things polite.

I pointed out that practically almost every late-war fighter has an advantage or two to play against the Typh in a dogfight at realistic MA alts. The same cannot be said of the LA7. Thus the notion of perking the former IS abit out there, while with the latter, it is not as unreasonable.

BTW, for the record, I think giving the guy an actual explanation of the Typh's weaknesses is more helpful and persuasive than simply calling some inexperienced player a skilless dweeb right out of the starting gate to amuse the forumites.




Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: DPQ5 on April 07, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
personally, I dont think the Typhs eny should even be 10. The P-47D40s eny should be 10. not 20, switch em.  :devil



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]
i like easy perks
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 08, 2008, 12:37:25 PM
Sir, insult is the last refuge of the out-argued, and is already both ubiquitous and pathetic all over the internet. Let's keep things polite.


No offense but if you thought E25280's post was insulting, you really do need a much thicker skin.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Pannono on April 08, 2008, 05:18:45 PM


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]
i like easy perks
u dont even fly jugs DP u fly 190A5s and N1Ks lol
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: betty on April 24, 2008, 07:12:25 AM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60


HUH???? tiff is NOT perked...silly boy...and yes it was made in small numbers but its still a great plane...very sexy one i might add. this thread makes no sense at all and i have no clue why u would even bother to post it. if u really knew what u was talkin about u would know that the temp is the perked one for whatever reason. It was never a great fighter...ummmm no it was found not to be a good fighter but a awsome gv killer. but in the game...i can fight just fine in the tiff.
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: zoozoo on April 24, 2008, 07:59:17 AM
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Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Anaxogoras on April 24, 2008, 08:34:36 AM
2)  Someone needs to tell BnZ to go back and re-read Ack-Acks post s l o w l y because he missed Ack-Ack's point by a wide margin.

Where is the insult?  Someone called me 'stupid' once just because he believed only vets of AH deserve a sheep avatar.  That was an insult.  If you follow E25280's advice you'll say 'oops' and move on.  We forgive you. :P
Sir, insult is the last refuge of the out-argued, and is already both ubiquitous and pathetic all over the internet. Let's keep things polite.

I pointed out that practically almost every late-war fighter has an advantage or two to play against the Typh in a dogfight at realistic MA alts. The same cannot be said of the LA7. Thus the notion of perking the former IS abit out there, while with the latter, it is not as unreasonable.

BTW, for the record, I think giving the guy an actual explanation of the Typh's weaknesses is more helpful and persuasive than simply calling some inexperienced player a skilless dweeb right out of the starting gate to amuse the forumites.

This is all true, but you missed the sarcasm in ack-ack's post.

No offense but if you thought E25280's post was insulting, you really do need a much thicker skin.

Thicker skin is no defense against people who haven't actually insulted you. :lol
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: valdals on April 24, 2008, 09:23:06 AM
koodos to the guys who can fly the unstable brick in the typhoon. i want a fighter that has a smooth quick response. not a plane that flys sloopy. :uhoh
Title: Re: Perk the Typhy and Temp
Post by: Pannono on April 24, 2008, 04:56:26 PM
There good plane, but a bit to good. Typh is perked but put it up some more. It was never a great fighter and only made in small numbers. So I say perk both at 60
if it was never a great fighter why does it need to be perked?
you probably try to run from them and HO them