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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Jebus on April 07, 2008, 09:40:59 PM
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Any one watching the Military Channel Episode on the V-22 Osprey?
I first found out about this plane and became intrigued by it in the book "Hammerhead" By Dale Brown
Just wondering what your thoughts are. I think it was a great idea for an airplane to bad it ran across so many problems.
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Has the towel been tossed in on this thing? Have heard nothing for quite some time
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Has the towel been tossed in on this thing? Have heard nothing for quite some time
Nope it is deployed. Military Channel (i know how creditable it is) says it is now running combat missions there.
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I see them about twice a month flying over head here in Western NC. IM on the east side of the blue ridge mountians just north of the NC/SC boarder.
very distinctive sound, kinda like a Huey but lil different.
Very cool to see them crusing along.
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v-22 ospreys have had serious problems and many have crashed so they are not currently using them.
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Correction Chewy ..... that was then ......... im telling ya i see them flying currently!
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There was one flying through here not too long ago
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v-22 ospreys have had serious problems and many have crashed so they are not currently using them.
Thanks for giving us our daily dose of wrong :)
The V-22 has had problems but not one has been more serious than what you should expect during any other development program of a radical new design.
They have crashed a few, not "many".
They are currently using them not only in training, but also in combat operations. Of course, until they actually start taking fire, we won't know if they're as fragile as critics say they are.
Not only that, they are still undergoing operational qualifying trials for more and more tasks for the various services that plan on buying them, and both development and procurement are going on at a reasonably quick pace. Although it's not the robust solution that operators and critics really wanted, one example of a retrofit upgrade being worked on is a flexible mounted gun so the thing can shoot back. The last I heard, they were mounting a .30 machine gun in the back. Critics wanted at least a .50 in a turret under the plane, but that would probably result in severe payload restrictions and at the very least reduced range and speed due to increased drag. Still, a .30 in the tail is better than nothing.
Apparently the special operations command is also going to buy some, equipped with the latest gadgets. It'll fly farther and faster than any helo they have, and that could be a big jump in their operational capability.
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I think it's the coolest rotary-wing aircraft ever made, bar none.
(http://www.minihelicopter.net/V22Osprey/V-22%20Osprey.jpg)
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Very cool and versatile heliplane. It will never be able to autorotate safely to the ground and thats my only gripe with it. Autorotation has saved a lot of crew and passengers so..
They have also had some issues with sand and snow blinding the crew during landings but that will prolly be solved by more technology.
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Thanks for giving us our daily dose of wrong :)
The V-22 has had problems but not one has been more serious than what you should expect during any other development program of a radical new design.
:rofl :aok
I used to sit and watch Ospreys at the Bell factory in Hurst. Very distinctive sound, but also much quieter than you would expect. Impressive bird.
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Why would it need to be able to auto-rotate? If it loses an engine, the other other engine supplies power to both rotors. So instead of an auto-rotation, it can make a powered landing.
If it happens to lose both engines, auto-rotation still probably wouldn't be a benefit. Most helicopters need to be above a thousand feet (1500 I think) to have any chance of surviving an auto-rotation. Since this thing has wings, it can glide.
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I've got an Osprey X-Plane model if anyone is interested. It's for V8.something...:lol
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looks like it would have the glide ratio of a rock
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I can say for certain that the simulated V-22 glides like a simulated rock :aok
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V22 is one sleek airplane...
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v-22 ospreys have had serious problems and many have crashed so they are not currently using them.
Footage of some in Iraq. Nice to see that they did mount a machine gun in the rear. :t
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cd5_1207273780
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The V-22 is currently serving in Iraq as we speak.
The office I work in is currently sponsoring USMC VMM 263, the "Thunder Chickens."
They are based at Al Asad air base in Iraq.
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USMC VMM 263, the "Thunder Chickens."
I think they might want to think about a new nickname
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389th flying F-111s in late 80's at Mountain Home AFB.... we used to call them "Thunder Chickens"
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/389thpatch.jpg)
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"According to squadron lore, the unit was originally called the Thunder Eagles, but the name got mistranslated in Vietnam, and the new moniker stuck. The squadron emblem shows a war bird that looks more like a fiercely determined eagle, clutching lightning bolts in its talons."
http://op-for.com/2006/06/thunder_chickens_prepare_for_l.html (http://op-for.com/2006/06/thunder_chickens_prepare_for_l.html)
according to the military channel it has a top speed of 360 and can travel 1000 miles on a tank which seems pretty awesome. it will be interesting to see what its capabilities really are when the crews start to push it in combat
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Yep it is flying special ops missions in Iraq now. At least according to a friend of mine who flies AC-130U's out of Hurlburt.
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"According to squadron lore, the unit was originally called the Thunder Eagles, but the name got mistranslated in Vietnam, and the new moniker stuck. The squadron emblem shows a war bird that looks more like a fiercely determined eagle, clutching lightning bolts in its talons."
IIRC other units had that problem as well. I think it was the 101st that had the eagle on their emblems, but the vietnamesse didn't have a word for eagle so the called them roosters (hence the Alice in Chains song). At least thats the information I got from my cousin and he is very knowledgable on that war.
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When i was still in the marines the v-22 came out and it got a bad reputation pretty quick because of some crashes. If i remember correctly they pulled it out of service for a while till they worked out some of the bugs it had. Once they had corrected the problems it seemed to perform as anticipated. Kind of like when the harriers first came out because of some early bugs and flaws they got a bad rap but once the designers and engineers figured out solutions they are pretty decent birds. I'm still waiting for the new Commanche helicopter to come into service, thing looks awesome.
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I'm still waiting for the new Commanche helicopter to come into service, thing looks awesome.
Last time I checked the Commanche program got cancelled
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AWE bummer. Thing looked like it'd be a killer. :cry
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v-22 ospreys have had serious problems and many have crashed so they are not currently using them.
Four were lost.
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The Comanche airframe is supposed to go on display at the Army Aviation museum in Fort Rucker, AL sometime this year. I haven't been there in years but am planning on stopping on my next trip down to the beach with our kids soon.
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I hope it was only four. Unfortunately, I knew the rotary pilot on one that went down. He was to be the first operational squadron commander. All on board were killed on that one.