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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: VWE on April 09, 2008, 06:15:50 AM
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And why the frik would you leave a plane on deck? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=508_1207635120 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=508_1207635120)
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crossing the atlantic towards europe in october 1977 we hit waves whose peaks were higher than the 03 level aboard the USS Bigelow. I have a photo of wave crashing over the signal bridge milliseconds before I ducked behind the windbreak. I would guess sixty feet from trough to crest on those bad boys, it was quite a thrill for the then 21 surfer to experience first hand that raw power of our mother ocean.
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That's when you start checking for jelly fish in the cockpit. :eek:
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Worse I've been in was 30-40 footers off the North Carolina coast, Cape Hatteras. I was onboard USNS Persistent (TAGOS 6) That ship is 224 feet long, round bottom, top heavy, with a top speed of maybe 12 knots down hill with a strong tail wind. Spent 3 days in heavy seas and it SUCKED!!!!!!! That was early spring 2000. Went over to the med on the Cutter Legare (WMEC-912) during the summer of 2001 and we got the crap beat out of us for 8 days straight going across the pond. 15-20 footers on an aft quarting sea. Half the crew was sick. 270's ride like crap to begin with so we had a lively ride going over.
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I was in the Denmark straits last year on a trawler. These are some 200 feet long, and built to ride. (the shorter ones go more into the "chop" while pulling).
Anyway, it amazed me how rough the seas were, even in good weather. If you can good for that area (around the polar circle, between Iceland and Greenland, - in January)
Looking back the deck, one sometimes hardly saw the sky!
One fine day the sea was particularly vicious. We had been out for some weeks, so my seasickness (there it's ...mandatory)was long gone, and my balance getting more confident every day. So, we got hit particularly nasty by a wave of unknown size. It was a big one, and I never saw it, for I was stacking boxes in the cargo bay (freezer), but had to drop my job and hold on to a pillar to stay on the legs.
I was lucky that the stacks didn't come crashing on to me, and actually the mid-deck crew went down looking for me, fearing the worst. I was fine, and stacking, - and swearing....fediddlein waves....
One of the enginer later told me that the listing gauge went to 50 degs. Captain actually abandoned the area and took off for an area some 150 miles south. It was much nicer...and warmer...and more redfish.
N-Atlantic is just plain mean at times.
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I've fished 15 footers from shore in Rhode Island. I tried fishing 20's during a tropical storm but there was too much mung in the water. The big waves get the Stripers going frekkin wild
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How big do waves get in the ocean?
(http://www.radiancemagazine.com/gifs/wader.gif)
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FOR SALE: One helicopter, low hours, well maintaned, this is one clean ride!
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That's when you start checking for jelly fish in the cockpit. :eek:
I've seen flying jellyfish before. It's rather sobering to see one cross the deck of a small sailboat after a decent wave.
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During a troop transport on the QE1 during WWII she was laid over on her side by a wave.
The idea of Rouge waves was disbelieved for years but with better radar, radios, and buoys we can no detect waves has high as 150+ feet. crossing open water with no apparent origin i.e. storm.
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Rogue waves can build locally from wave "mixing" (waves coming from diferent directions or wavelengths) and can build over 100 feet, possibly 200 if conditions are right.
Picture of a "rogue".
(http://www.naval.com/heavy-seas/3/burin.jpg)
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMOKQL26WD_index_0.html (http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMOKQL26WD_index_0.html)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hOai9hGQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hOai9hGQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szk83cONAqM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szk83cONAqM&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNaWlVOgdtQ&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNaWlVOgdtQ&NR=1)
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Mmmmm Cortes Bank. Off California, 100 miles out. Open ocean swells break on an undersea mountain.
In this clip the tallest wave is 66 feet. Absolutely beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szRREEsCkpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szRREEsCkpo)
I'd be willing to wager though that anybody without a lifetime of big-wave surfing experience will probably die very, very quickly.
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(omg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szRREEsCkpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_8hOai9hGQ
(gasp gasp) :O
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I'd be willing to wager though that anybody without a lifetime of big-wave surfing experience will probably die very, very quickly.
If the wave doesn't kill them, the sharks just might, place is infested with them. I've been fishing of the Cortez Bank a few times and have seen some of the waves hit there, it's an awesome sight to see.
ack-ack
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Next time wifey asks for a cruise I'm going to show her these. Nuff said.
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Next time wifey asks for a cruise I'm going to show her these. Nuff said.
:rofl
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I was out in this thing once. http://www.carolinaprincess.com/default.aspx For two days we sat in Moorehead city NC cause it was just blowing to hard. The 3rd day, despite the fact it was blowing even harder, they took us out.
I cant believe this Capt. took this boat out in those monster seas. For two hours we chopped our way out to the fishing grounds while the entire boat puked, except for me. Finally we get out there and the Capt decides to turn it around cause a tornado was spotted. So it was two horrible hours back in. I forget what the seas were but they were huge.
The next two days it calmed down and we killed the bottom fish. But I'll never forget that 1st day. Ive had Lake Michigan almost kill me to while hunting salmon and trout. Boy you dont mess with big water.
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I've seen flying jellyfish before. It's rather sobering to see one cross the deck of a small sailboat after a decent wave.
Jellyfish suck the big one.
Way back when, when I was teaching sailing, the buggers would wrap themselves around every anchor and mooring line we had going. Your hands got used to it eventually, but if you wiped your eyes or took a leak at lunchtime without washing your hands first... :O
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Jellyfish suck the big one.
Way back when, when I was teaching sailing, the buggers would wrap themselves around every anchor and mooring line we had going. Your hands got used to it eventually, but if you wiped your eyes or took a leak at lunchtime without washing your hands first... :O
Gloves.
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When life gives you huge frakking waves, get a surfboard.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8691/bigwavesurfing5in8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(BTW that guy is insane)
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Mmmmm Cortes Bank. Off California, 100 miles out. Open ocean swells break on an undersea mountain.
In this clip the tallest wave is 66 feet. Absolutely beautiful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szRREEsCkpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szRREEsCkpo)
I'd be willing to wager though that anybody without a lifetime of big-wave surfing experience will probably die very, very quickly.
How did something like this happen?
On 2 November 1985 the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65) struck the Cortes Bank reef about one mile east of Bishop Rock during exercises, putting a 40-foot (12 meter) gash in her outer hull and damaging a propeller. She continued operations then went into dry dock at Hunter's Point Shipyard in San Francisco for repairs.[3]
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those waves are in need of harnessing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_power
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How did something like this happen?
On 2 November 1985 the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN-65) struck the Cortes Bank reef about one mile east of Bishop Rock during exercises, putting a 40-foot (12 meter) gash in her outer hull and damaging a propeller. She continued operations then went into dry dock at Hunter's Point Shipyard in San Francisco for repairs.[3]
Some peaks are just 20 feet below the surface, the Enterprise hit one of them. If you didn't know, the Cortes Bank is actually an underwater mountain range, which creates the big waves.
It is a trip to look at surface radar when you're in the area and you can see the big waves being detected.
ack-ack
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When life gives you huge frakking waves, get a surfboard.
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8691/bigwavesurfing5in8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(BTW that guy is insane)
he's not insane he's skilled. by the look of that wave I would guess he also wiped out on that one in the next second or two but it's hard to tell without seeing the whole wave. to me it looks like he'll end up too far back in the barrel.
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he's not insane he's skilled. by the look of that wave I would guess he also wiped out on that one in the next second or two but it's hard to tell without seeing the whole wave. to me it looks like he'll end up too far back in the barrel.
Definitely looks like he's about a second or two away from having the barrel crash on him. You can see the line he took when he was towed into the wave.
ack-ack
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The roughest seas I was ever in were the Bering during the winter of 1980. We were taking 60-70ft waves that were threatening to break the bridge windows (03 deck) on USCGC Boutwell (WHEC-719). You could feel the ship shudder and hear the shockwave coming down the frames everytime we hit one. We took some wicked rolls that ALPAT,too. I spent more time walking on the bulkheads than on the deck.
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We had a storm hit the UK (I say storm, was actually a hurricane lol) in 1986 - spend the entire time at sea - when the storm had abated, we'd lost all the signal halyards, all the signal lamps on the port side (at the time we had 20 inch lamps - which are big and heavy) - and most of the guardrails were bent/mangled. We had a veteran ships company, but still had big troubles with mal de mere (seasickness) which was quite amusing (for those of us who dont suffer with it...lol).
Nice thing tho, there were no queues for scran (food)
Wurzel
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Impressive waves! My only experience of waves was from ferries in the Irish sea. Which does get fairly rough. However the ships are stablised which takes some of the sting out of the waves. I remember one stormy passage. I didn't seem so bad until I spotted a coaster off to the starboard. She would literally disappear in a wall of spray ever couple of waves. Terrifying looking.
I'm not prone much to seasickness luckily. I remember that same day going to the ship's cafeteria for lunch. I was pretty much alone there :lol I had terrible trouble though stopping my meal from flying off the table.
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The roughest seas I was ever in were the Bering during the winter of 1980. We were taking 60-70ft waves that were threatening to break the bridge windows (03 deck) on USCGC Boutwell (WHEC-719). You could feel the ship shudder and hear the shockwave coming down the frames everytime we hit one. We took some wicked rolls that ALPAT,too. I spent more time walking on the bulkheads than on the deck.
RPM, do you happen to know a guy by the name Allen Mordica? He was on Boutwell around that time frame. Sonar Tech.
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We had a storm hit the UK (I say storm, was actually a hurricane lol) in 1986 - spend the entire time at sea - when the storm had abated, we'd lost all the signal halyards, all the signal lamps on the port side (at the time we had 20 inch lamps - which are big and heavy) - and most of the guardrails were bent/mangled. We had a veteran ships company, but still had big troubles with mal de mere (seasickness) which was quite amusing (for those of us who dont suffer with it...lol).
Nice thing tho, there were no queues for scran (food)
Wurzel
I was flying back from somewhere in the US the day that storm hit UK, we got diverted to Glasgow and ended up working from the airport there for three days looking after other diverted RAF aircraft.
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During a troop transport on the QE1 during WWII she was laid over on her side by a wave.
The idea of Rouge waves was disbelieved for years but with better radar, radios, and buoys we can no detect waves has high as 150+ feet. crossing open water with no apparent origin i.e. storm.
Have been looking into that a bit. We have "systematic rogues" at some beaches, - that saying big ones but with a somewhat regular interval. Some locals say something like "in this wind direction, it's one out of 14" and so on.
There have been casualties where tourists too close got swept out. On the retreating tide and in the N-Atlantic, anyone is dead withing minutes.
A friend of mine is a tourist guide, and had a close shave with one of those while getting his people from the beach.
A girl I was once showing a little bay also had quite a bath, while not listening to my warning early enough.
Had I not gone for getting her out, she'd been drowned.