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Title: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Donzo on April 09, 2008, 08:24:24 PM
I wonder why this charter school has not been shut down yet. 
Where's the ACLU on this one? 
Where's the outrage over the "separation between church and state"?
Why does this get a pass?

Link:
http://www.startribune.com/16404541.html (http://www.startribune.com/16404541.html)
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Chairboy on April 09, 2008, 08:33:42 PM
I hope they pursue this, tax money shouldn't be used for a religious school.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Maverick on April 09, 2008, 09:28:04 PM
It almost seems like there are two schools being discussed in the article. The second one a "public funded" charter school. Does MN use tax for all charter schools?
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Donzo on April 09, 2008, 09:30:47 PM
Here ya go Mav http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25470 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25470)
They have received funding from the gov.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Maverick on April 09, 2008, 09:37:36 PM
Yeah Donzo I see that, it's clear in the second article. The first article was rather unclear about that. I had to read it 3 times really looking for the blurb that used the term "public funded". It almost seemed like it was saying the school was owned (privately) by the California based muslin group. That's why I edited my first post.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Donzo on April 09, 2008, 11:28:20 PM
Here's more on this:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020251.php (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/04/020251.php)
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: texasmom on April 09, 2008, 11:30:59 PM
I always though charter schools were private schools ~ to include funding.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Chairboy on April 10, 2008, 02:10:20 PM
The ACLU has responded:

http://www.aclu-mn.org/downloads/LettertoTarekAcademy.pdf

So, uh, there they are, to answer the OP's question. 
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: AKIron on April 10, 2008, 02:29:05 PM
I hope they pursue this, tax money shouldn't be used for a religious school.

I guess you object to vouchers also which would be the equivalent?
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Chairboy on April 10, 2008, 02:53:24 PM
I don't want my tax money spent to indoctrinate someone too young to defend themselves.  Plenty of folks here are fine with this, as long as it's a nice god fearing christian school.  If they're equally sanguine about their tax money being spent on, say, a madrasas, then go for it.

Me?  I'm not a fan.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: texasmom on April 10, 2008, 03:06:25 PM
I don't want my tax money spent to indoctrinate someone too young to defend themselves.  Plenty of folks here are fine with this, as long as it's a nice god fearing christian school.  If they're equally sanguine about their tax money being spent on, say, a madrasas, then go for it.
Me?  I'm not a fan.

I'm a fan of God fearing Christian schools. But I think that they should be privately funded schools entirely ~ not tax payer funded. 
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: AKIron on April 10, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
I'm a fan of God fearing Christian schools. But I think that they should be privately funded schools entirely ~ not tax payer funded. 

Tax payers are also the parents of those children. Vouchers seems like the best answer to me.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: MORAY37 on April 10, 2008, 04:23:22 PM
I'm a fan of God fearing Christian schools. But I think that they should be privately funded schools entirely ~ not tax payer funded. 

If God is so great.... Why must we fear it?

Respect possibly.  Fear?
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Xargos on April 10, 2008, 04:30:10 PM
It's The Church you need to fear, not God.

Catholic Bishops make a vow to The Church, not to God.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: texasmom on April 10, 2008, 04:32:20 PM
If God is so great.... Why must we fear it?

Respect possibly.  Fear?
He's a scarey dude. I fear his wrath, for sure. I'll save that for another thread though.  :)
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Chairboy on April 10, 2008, 04:33:06 PM
So, anyhow, the ACLU responded to the school w/ a 'Nowwaittaminute...' and I've provided the link.  Dunno if anyone has read it, thought I imagine quite a few have (and have been silent because acknowledging it goes against their preconceived notions).
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Xargos on April 10, 2008, 04:48:04 PM
I read it.

Our Founding Fathers were Christians and knew large organized churches did not represent God.  That is why we have a separation between Church and State.  Our Founders didn't want the unelected having control over our lives. 
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: ChickenHawk on April 10, 2008, 05:16:40 PM
If God is so great.... Why must we fear it?

Respect possibly.  Fear?

American Heritage Dictionary

Fear
n. 
1.   
    a.   A feeling of agitation and anxiety caused by the presence or imminence of danger.
    b.   A state or condition marked by this feeling: living in fear.
2.   A feeling of disquiet or apprehension: a fear of looking foolish.
3.   Extreme reverence or awe, as toward a supreme power.
4.   A reason for dread or apprehension: Being alone is my greatest fear.


#3 When the King James Bible was written, fear was synonymous with respect.  So you are right, we should not be afraid of God but rather respect Him.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: C(Sea)Bass on April 10, 2008, 05:21:07 PM
If God is so great.... Why must we fear it?

Respect possibly.  Fear?

Visited Sodom and Gomorah lately?

Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Donzo on April 10, 2008, 05:36:10 PM
So, anyhow, the ACLU responded to the school w/ a 'Nowwaittaminute...' and I've provided the link.  Dunno if anyone has read it, thought I imagine quite a few have (and have been silent because acknowledging it goes against their preconceived notions).

I just read it and I applaud them sending the letter.

Now we will wait and see if anything changes and they pursue the matter.
Title: Re: Oh ACLU...where are you?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 10, 2008, 07:22:44 PM
He's a scarey dude. I fear his wrath, for sure. I'll save that for another thread though.  :)


I guess so much for being a benevolant God.



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