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Title: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: AKIron on April 11, 2008, 02:24:06 PM
Based on this what other conclusion can you draw? He must have been happy with the doctrine and minister of his church for 20 years or he would have fired them right? I guess neither made him uncomfortable. At least until he began drawing criticism over them.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/obama-i-would-have-fired-mark-penn-too/

" I think it was surprising to me that a high-ranking, if not the highest-ranking, member of Senator Clinton’s team would be engaged in business activities and lobbying that was directly contrary to the position Senator Clinton had taken,” Obama said Friday.

“Let me put it this way: I’m not surprised that Senator Clinton found herself in an uncomfortable position as a consequence. And I know that if staff of mine were putting me in that kind of position, I would get rid of them.”

 
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: MORAY37 on April 11, 2008, 02:50:33 PM
Based on this what other conclusion can you draw? He must have been happy with the doctrine and minister of his church for 20 years or he would have fired them right? I guess neither made him uncomfortable. At least until he began drawing criticism over them.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/11/obama-i-would-have-fired-mark-penn-too/

" I think it was surprising to me that a high-ranking, if not the highest-ranking, member of Senator Clinton’s team would be engaged in business activities and lobbying that was directly contrary to the position Senator Clinton had taken,” Obama said Friday.

“Let me put it this way: I’m not surprised that Senator Clinton found herself in an uncomfortable position as a consequence. And I know that if staff of mine were putting me in that kind of position, I would get rid of them.”

 

As usual you can't seperate your pre-conceived notion from the facts.

Disagreement with a pastor or priest is not the same as your campaign director taking 300,000 $ from Colombia, and lobbying for free trade with that nation, while you, Sen. Clinton, espouse a policy of negotiating no new free trade positions.  It's called "conflict of interest".

Obama's Reverand is not his campaign manager. He had no position in Obama's staff.  He was simply an "advisor".  Meaning, you can take his advice or leave his advice.  In the notion of race, Obama left his advice there.  As well, someone with a white grandmother (Obama), I would think, would have serious issues with the race question you bring up.  For Obama to be racist would mean he would have to turn his back on his family.

Penn, was paid to manage Clinton's campaign.  And paid to Lobby for free trade with Colombia.  Seems pretty distinct to me.  We obviously don't have to agree with everyone around us... family, friends, pastors.  But I think we should agree with the person who manages our livelihood... As did Mr. Penn with Sen. Clinton.

Your attempt to obfuscate the issue is noted. 
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: john9001 on April 11, 2008, 03:24:44 PM
obama is all fizzel wit no shizzel.
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: Gunthr on April 11, 2008, 03:26:56 PM
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Obama's Reverand is not his campaign manager. He had no position in Obama's staff.  He was simply an "advisor".

Moray, you are dancing pretty fast here.   I think all Americans have the right to vet out a person who may become the next President of the United States, and try to understand his philosophy.  Any 20-year advisor of Obama's is of interest.

Based on what I know, Obama is not only a socialist, but a far left extremist, very much distant from middle America.

Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: Donzo on April 11, 2008, 03:29:56 PM
obama is all fizzel wit no shizzel.

true dat!
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: AKIron on April 11, 2008, 03:33:19 PM
For Obama to be racist would mean he would have to turn his back on his family.

Or belong to an overtly racist church for 20 years. I think it's interesting to note that he has all but hidden his white grandmother while showing off a woman in Africa who had no part in raising him. Obama may not be a racist but he hasn't done much to persuade me otherwise. At the very least he is pandering to black people for votes which is only marginally better than being a racist.
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: bj229r on April 11, 2008, 06:33:50 PM
Just when Hillary free-falling in polls, Barack hands her another gift:
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Barack Obama took a shot at explaining the yawning cultural gap that separates a Turkeyfoot from a Marin County. "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Well there you go--stupid unemployed hicks are all racists if they don't like me :aok
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_on_smalltown_PA_Clinging_religion_guns_xenophobia.html
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: lazs2 on April 12, 2008, 10:00:02 AM
So moray.. if Mccain went to KKK meetings for 20 years that would not mean a thing about his character or racial views right.. er Wright?  I mean.. so long as he didn't agree with the views?

lazs
Title: Re: Obama happy with Rev. Wright
Post by: Donzo on April 12, 2008, 10:18:28 AM
Excellent point ^^^^