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Title: V Base captures
Post by: Heretic on April 11, 2008, 04:06:46 PM
Fellow addicts,

First off I'm not sure if this has been brought up before in the past.      Really don't want to have to wade through the 1000's of threads to look either.


How many times have you seen an enemy tank camping the main spawn hangar at a V base?  Many times I'm quite sure.    How many times have you seen troops running or a M3 blazing on the base and the main hangar is camped?  You can't up a GV because as soon as you do you get killed.      Lets say for instance all 3 hangars are up,all your ack guns are down and the main hangar is camped and you see a M3 heading for your maproom.    Wouldn't it be nice if you could pick what VH you could spawn from?   Obviously you would spawn from the maproom VH to cover the maproom with the enemy M3 heading for it.     You could also up from the VH across from the main hangar as well.


This is just an idea I have been thinking of for some time.         Lately Knights are losing bases fast and furious and I think this may help slow down the land grab game and actually make it a tad bit more hard  to capture GV bases.       
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: dkff49 on April 11, 2008, 04:23:58 PM
I like this idea alot, but I think it belongs in the wishlist forum. Great idea though especially on the bases that have only one spwan into them and that is where the enemy is coming from.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: DCCBOSS on April 11, 2008, 04:37:08 PM
Not a bad idea, it works for all sides.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 11, 2008, 05:00:49 PM
Good idea  :aok

seeing a VH camped waiting for a M-3 to get there is part of the game.
but seeing a lone score horder making kills just to pad there rank this would be a good idea,   maby spawn from 2 of the 3 hangers would be a deterrent for those people.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Hornet33 on April 11, 2008, 05:24:39 PM
I always thought a random spawn inside the bounderies of base itself would be nice. That way they can't camp the base well at all because you never know where your going to spawn at.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 11, 2008, 06:30:02 PM
thats a nice thought but that wouldent workout at all.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: panzerr on April 11, 2008, 06:56:40 PM
I like the idea of choosing which VH to up in. :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 11, 2008, 07:11:21 PM
I support this topic  :rock
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Lusche on April 11, 2008, 07:13:20 PM
I always thought a random spawn inside the bounderies of base itself would be nice. That way they can't camp the base well at all because you never know where your going to spawn at.

Some kind of random spawn would be fun for both sides, and be it just randomly spawning in any of the three VH's
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 11, 2008, 07:31:59 PM
Some kind of random spawn would be fun for both sides, and be it just randomly spawning in any of the three VH's

i think hies saying to spawn up anywhere on the VB grounds not the hangers.   (like out at a spawn point being random)

id say that fun would be one sided only,it would be nice to spawn up behind a GV on a base and get in the first shots and kills,  but if just a few guys in tanks and M-3 try to take a VB it would be most difficult with tanks popping up all over the base.  i wouldnt even try with 3 or 4 people in GV's if it were that way.

but your idea would be good too Lusche, a random spawn from any of the 3 hangers,  but maby with alittle twist to it,  if the hanger is down you cant spawn from that one anymore.



Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Lusche on April 11, 2008, 07:35:28 PM
i think hies saying to spawn up anywhere on the VB grounds not the hangers.   (like out at a spawn point being random)

I perfectly understood that. I was giving just another alternative.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 11, 2008, 07:42:27 PM
i added onto my last post Lusche you probly didnt get to read that extra part :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: WWhiskey on April 11, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
 i hope this gets to the wish list!
 but i think only up in the hangers, choose which one you want and it has to be up!
 it could still then be camped but not by one person unless the other two were down!
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 11, 2008, 07:55:55 PM
i would have to say that Lusche's idea of a random spawn from the 3 hangers is a good idea,  and HTC might have an easy way to add that to the game.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Spikes on April 11, 2008, 08:00:00 PM
YES! IF we were able to pick which hanger, though, wouldn't it be smart to move the VH a little farther away from the maproom? Randomized spawn is the best, though.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 11, 2008, 08:08:13 PM
Personally I always thought a Gv shoulda randomly spawn from one of the hangars.

shoulda been that way from the git
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: panzerr on April 11, 2008, 08:32:52 PM
...just so they don't randomly spawn ANYWHERE near a pine tree..  :rolleyes:

I would rather see a non-random choice of VH's.  At least by upping inside, you can be a little sneakier when enemy gv's are not yet in position to camp, and have a little more control of the situation, sort of like a home field advantage. 
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: CAP1 on April 11, 2008, 09:06:19 PM
Fellow addicts,

First off I'm not sure if this has been brought up before in the past.      Really don't want to have to wade through the 1000's of threads to look either.


How many times have you seen an enemy tank camping the main spawn hangar at a V base?  Many times I'm quite sure.    How many times have you seen troops running or a M3 blazing on the base and the main hangar is camped?  You can't up a GV because as soon as you do you get killed.      Lets say for instance all 3 hangars are up,all your ack guns are down and the main hangar is camped and you see a M3 heading for your maproom.    Wouldn't it be nice if you could pick what VH you could spawn from?   Obviously you would spawn from the maproom VH to cover the maproom with the enemy M3 heading for it.     You could also up from the VH across from the main hangar as well.


This is just an idea I have been thinking of for some time.         Lately Knights are losing bases fast and furious and I think this may help slow down the land grab game and actually make it a tad bit more hard  to capture GV bases.       

i'm gathering that you just had a night of getting camped? i've been on both sides of that....more often on the recieving end, and think this is an EXCELLENT idea!! :aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Heretic on April 11, 2008, 11:13:31 PM
cap1,

its been about a week since I was camped in the VH.        I'm no angel either because I have been guilty of camping the VH while we are attempting a GV base capture.     Is it lame,dweeby,and gamey?  Yes it is.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 12, 2008, 01:50:47 AM
cap1,

its been about a week since I was camped in the VH.        I'm no angel either because I have been guilty of camping the VH while we are attempting a GV base capture.     Is it lame,dweeby,and gamey?  Yes it is.

its not lame,dweeby,and gamey if your after a base capture and waiting on a trp or a goon to get there to capture the base,  that is just part of the game.

but if you a single tank camping a VH on a VB just to get the kills then thats lame,dweeby,and gamey,   your not there for anything but the kills and score.

but in all fairness it should be a random spawn between the 3 hangers. in this game there shouldent be a total hometeam advantige,  2 out of 3 odds of spawning to a non camped hanger is all i need,  besides if this was to go into affect,  single person  score horders would be gone on a VB. 


Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: chrish483 on April 12, 2008, 02:00:35 AM
i can see it myself as being alittle harder to take a VB,  3 people to camp the hangers one to deack and one with a M-3,  but hard is are middle name here so to speak :)  adapt  its still not as hard as taking an airfield and it gives a chance for all sides to defend a VB,  besides a few buff formations will take it all out so its not a major thing here.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: BaldEagl on April 12, 2008, 09:11:14 AM
The random spawn hanger idea is good but while we're at it why not add it for fighters and bombers spawning from hangers on airfields too.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Pannono on April 12, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
why dont we just take out the back door of the vhs?
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: opposum on April 12, 2008, 10:50:35 AM
i was thinking of the same idea, you could choose which hanger to come out of just like choosing an ack gun to hop into, click on the hanger you choose, and then up from it,



 :aok :aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Heretic on April 12, 2008, 11:15:28 AM
Thanks for all of the comments fellas.    I was really expecting a flame fest but I am pleasantly surprised by all of the positive comments.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: panzerr on April 12, 2008, 12:16:12 PM
i was thinking of the same idea, you could choose which hanger to come out of just like choosing an ack gun to hop into, click on the hanger you choose, and then up from it,



 :aok :aok :aok :aok


Yep - we should be able to choose which vh, just as we choose which field gun to grab. :aok :aok :aok :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Lye-El on April 12, 2008, 03:13:10 PM
why dont we just take out the back door of the vhs?

This would be logical. If the VH is camped then the enemy can be countered. Oh, and up a T-34 if your hanger is camped. The turrent rotates faster and you can sometimes get a shot off. Learned that from dr7. <gives credit>
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: panzerr on April 12, 2008, 04:03:10 PM
This would be logical. If the VH is camped then the enemy can be countered. Oh, and up a T-34 if your hanger is camped. The turrent rotates faster and you can sometimes get a shot off. Learned that from dr7. <gives credit>
Because vh's can be effectively camped in more ways than just sitting behind them.  I vote for being able to choose a vh. :aok
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: 442w30 on April 13, 2008, 11:07:30 AM
This is a great idea!  Either way, different VH spawns or random areas of the base.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: bmwgs on April 14, 2008, 01:05:31 AM
I have to respectively disagree.  If you are allowed to spawn anywhere on the base, then it would be a simple matter to use your F3 view and then spawn in behind someone.  I do like the hanger idea.

Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Bruv119 on April 14, 2008, 01:11:02 AM
It's already easy enough for the tower guys to see an incoming raid and position themselves BEFORE the guy gets on your base and starts spawn camping.  Maybe lock down the tower view at a vbase if you enable random spawn.

Then at least the guy defending would have to find where the attackers were.

Plus a cap is easy to break just 2 guys in T34's....
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: Dragon on April 14, 2008, 01:20:14 PM
 :rock
I agree with being able to pick which hanger, don't like random spawn to anywhere on the base

Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: ROX on April 14, 2008, 01:41:28 PM
I'm  :aok with this idea.

I mean, you can pick what runway you up from, right?

Prepare for this idea to get flamed, though...and by guess who?   (People who love to spawn camp the hangars)



ROX
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: MajIssue on April 14, 2008, 02:00:35 PM
I think the random spawn on a V-Base would work out best... Much like a "remote" spawn point where you don't appear at the exact spot every time you up... Although I have camped a v/hanger, (mostly out of the desire to tie up the opposition in rooting me out) I would not mind seeing this practice become a little more problematic.


thats a nice thought but that wouldent workout at all.
Wouldent?

I think your midil skul teechr WOULDN'T appruv ov yur speling*

*apologies to all that can read, comprehend, spell and communicate in the english language!
 :lol
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: John Curnutte on April 14, 2008, 02:23:02 PM
 Yep this is a good thread and I like picking which hanger you want to come out of on a V base , but also think that hanger should be up to do so . :rock
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: LYNX on April 14, 2008, 08:43:56 PM
Yep this is a good thread and I like picking which hanger you want to come out of on a V base , but also think that hanger should be up to do so . :rock

I could live with this idea but honestly isn't all of this a case of being lazy.   If a gv walks in sets out his tent, builds a fire, gets all comfy in his fold up chair and casts his line do you really have to snap at it like fish on hemp.

Frankly if no one is minding the store don't be surprised if it gets robbed blind.  Simple as that.  It works just as good for all sides.  HTC spread the Vbase hangers not so long ago...I think that's good enough.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: lyric1 on April 15, 2008, 02:29:27 AM
If they wont add multiple spawning points just add 6 feet of hedge to the right of the spawning hangar this will close the loop hole that is there now. Result??? camper screwed.
Title: Re: V Base captures
Post by: zilla on April 15, 2008, 07:52:56 AM
Some kind of random spawn would be fun for both sides, and be it just randomly spawning in any of the three VH's
yep