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Title: Warping drones..
Post by: SkyRock on April 13, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
need fixing.  It is terribly infair to the attacker that the bomber u just killed disappears and the drone jumps into his place causing u to collide as you pass though. :furious
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: 2fly on April 13, 2008, 08:32:59 PM
Dont shoot the lead bomber.

But yeah,  yer right.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Roundeye on April 13, 2008, 08:38:40 PM
X2.  It also xux to have a buff squarely in the gunsight, just about to let go a burst and it vanishes, reappearing next to the lead plane that is turning. :confused:
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Lusche on April 13, 2008, 08:41:05 PM
Actually there are three different kind of buff warps wich can cause trouble:

- Drone jump after you kill lead buff. Annoying, yet can be avoided most of the time by shooting drones first.

- Drone jump when lead does some very hard&crazy turns. Sometimes used as a very gamey kind of defense. Turn so hard and erratic that your drones hop all over the sky hoping they will collide with your enemy. (The zig-zagging vertical warps of the drones when lead plummets to earth is of the same kind)

- The periodic formation jump. Comes in two versions: A) Caterpillar Jump - every few seconds, the 2 drones fall behind then suddenly catch up by mini-warp. Or B): The whole formation will jump along it's course in periodic intervals. Very hard to attack and quite dangerous to engage at all.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: SkyRock on April 13, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
Actually there are three different kind of buff warps wich can cause trouble:

- Drone jump after you kill lead buff. Annoying, yet can be avoided most of the time by shooting drones first.


I shouldn't have to pick the drone first, if I make a correct AoA and blast the lead going in between the debris/explosion and the drone, I should not be penalized.  The problem is not having adelay on the drone warping to take over the lead.  It should be just as the drone had to fly to the spot, not just magically appear there.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: moot on April 13, 2008, 08:47:45 PM
Maybe they could make the drones fly level while the player takes his time to ride it down (for whatever reason).
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Lusche on April 13, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
I shouldn't have to pick the drone first, if I make a correct AoA and blast the lead going in between the debris/explosion and the drone, I should not be penalized. 

Of course you shouldn't. The "shoot drone 1st" is just a workaround for this problem, not the solution.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Yenny on April 13, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
I do have a question if this is just a game bug, and people exploit it. When I fly attack a formation of bombers, sometime I run into pilots that would wait until i get into firing range, then switch the plane they are flying. When they do that it shift the formation back and foward. Is that working as intended or is it a bug?
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: moot on April 13, 2008, 09:15:54 PM
How do you know that's what they're doing, and that it's the cause for the warp?
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Yenny on April 13, 2008, 09:26:56 PM
it looks like that what he did because the formation change. I'm not sure if that's warp or not though. The formation kinda just reform instantly.
Example, I'm on the 1st bomber, the right one. When he change the plane he's in it it made the bomber i was on disappeared and  the entire formation shifted 1 to my left.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Lusche on April 13, 2008, 09:29:01 PM
it looks like that what he did because the formation change. I'm not sure if that's warp or not though. The formation kinda just reform instantly.
Example, I'm on the 1st bomber, the right one. When he change the plane he's in it it made the bomber i was on disappeared and  the entire formation shifted 1 to my left.

In other words, you don't know if someone jumped from plane to plane.. you were just guessing.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Yenny on April 13, 2008, 09:40:31 PM
Yes, in another word I am guessing that's what he did. I though it was weird because it was fine when I line him up and closing in. It seem fine until I got to 400 and started firing, then the shifting happen. When I pull back up to go back in for another pass, looking down it was fine, the 3 plane was just flying straight and level with no shifting. On the second dive as I open fire, the shiftin happen again, this time I pulled off and gave up.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: moot on April 13, 2008, 09:46:54 PM
It sounds more like the usual small warps planes do, sometimes very untimely as you're describing.  Add drones and it looks a little different.  I'm pretty sure I know first-hand what you're talking about..  I don't have nearly enough samples to do more than guess, but sometimes it's like they warp more while you're lining up and/or about to pull the trigger, than any other time.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Anaxogoras on April 13, 2008, 11:29:49 PM
Skyrock and I agree on this one.  Maybe that will cause him to change his mind. :lol

The warping is awful, and worse still is that the bombers blow up if they get too far away from the piloted aircraft.  Why?
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: moot on April 13, 2008, 11:54:20 PM
Probably because it's awful.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: hubsonfire on April 14, 2008, 12:29:10 AM
There are numerous exploits with bomber formations. The warp on demand bit that Yenny mentions is one of them, but discussing that particular situation further would only cause more instances of same.

Formations are poop.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: DoNKeY on April 14, 2008, 12:37:11 AM
Probably because it's awful.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: DrDea on April 14, 2008, 12:42:02 AM
 Ive never been killed by a buff reforming to the middle.I attack from a little back.Course I die alot. :huh
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: SkyRock on April 14, 2008, 06:05:13 AM
scenario Im talking about was last night, in a 262 I hovered out in front and abovesome bombers.  When they got under me, I nosed down on lead bomber and blasted him and should have flown on inbetween the remaining drones.  But because I hit his cockpit with a tater, he went boom and immediately a drone took his place causing me to collide. :(
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: jon on April 14, 2008, 07:05:22 AM
scenario Im talking about was last night, in a 262 I hovered out in front and abovesome bombers.  When they got under me, I nosed down on lead bomber and blasted him and should have flown on inbetween the remaining drones.  But because I hit his cockpit with a tater, he went boom and immediately a drone took his place causing me to collide. :(
So what your saying is DRONES OWN SKYROCK  :devil


























Just kidding that is not right.
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Blammo on April 14, 2008, 07:16:27 AM
Agree with Skyrock on this.  The jumping around formations after the lead gets killed is total crap.  Combine that with the weird jumping around stuff by the drones when the lead is maneuvering hard or has lost a wing/tail and is going down...it is very frustrating.  Been killed several times by the DRONE DANCE.

As hub said, "formations are poop"
Title: Re: Warping drones..
Post by: Bruv119 on April 14, 2008, 07:25:17 AM
The thing that annoys me most about bombers is if you kill the lead the drones trip out into the twlight zone then  they jump back up 6000 or whatever altitude they feel like when he/she dies.

Simple solution is shoot the right drone 1st , then the left then the lead.  I think even you can manage that skyrock  ;)