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Title: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Guppy35 on April 16, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
The recently restored 109G-4 Red 7 was bellied in recently again, about 2 years after her last accident and 2 weeks after flying again.

Saw this on another forum.  Sad to see

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/7c.jpg)
Title: Re: 109G-6 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Strip on April 16, 2008, 05:18:34 PM
I hope it was mechanical failure and not pilot error. Crashing aside she looks in pretty good shape. I hope she is still repairable knowing her history.

Any word on cause?

Strip
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Krusty on April 16, 2008, 05:25:03 PM
I wonder if stopping the prop like that trashes the engine or just kills it?
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Mustaine on April 16, 2008, 05:44:11 PM
any news on why?
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Wmaker on April 16, 2008, 06:03:34 PM
:(

On another forum it was said that the right gear refused to lock down. Not sure if this info is correct or not, however.
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Guppy35 on April 16, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: Wmaker on April 16, 2008, 06:03:34 PM
:(

On another forum it was said that the right gear refused to lock down. Not sure if this info is correct or not, however.

That was the last accident in 2006 I believe.  Not sure on this one unless they had a repeat of the last one
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: EskimoJoe on April 16, 2008, 06:05:58 PM
Quote from: Guppy35 on April 16, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
The recently restored 109G-4 Red 7 was bellied in recently again, about 2 years after her last accident and 2 weeks after flying again.

Saw this on another forum.  Sad to see

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii120/Duggy009/7c.jpg)
NOOO!!!!
 :cry :cry :cry
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: StugIII on April 16, 2008, 06:33:19 PM
thats a shame it look slike a very nice plane, and it is, hopefully the guy was ok, but it might be the landing gear, i dont know for sure but it seems that there lots of stress on them.
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: pervert on April 16, 2008, 07:04:48 PM
sad to see  :O
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Motherland on April 16, 2008, 07:13:11 PM
A sad sight indeed....
The 109 was notorious for its landing gear not locking in place.
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Fencer51 on April 16, 2008, 07:23:38 PM
Thats sad to see, yet take heart in the fact it was not an accurate restoration for a WWII 109.

An accurate restoration would involve a shot up burnt out hulk with P-51s flying overhead.  :devil
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Wmaker on April 16, 2008, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: Guppy35 on April 16, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
That was the last accident in 2006 I believe.  Not sure on this one unless they had a repeat of the last one

Here's more about it:

http://forum.planetalk.net/viewtopic.php?t=5848&highlight (http://forum.planetalk.net/viewtopic.php?t=5848&highlight)

AFAIK the accident that happened in July 2005 was caused by a pilot error.

EDIT/ http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=news (http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=news)

More info in German. This indeed confirms the landing gear problem:

http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=ueberlebende-ausgabe&flugzeug=83 (http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=ueberlebende-ausgabe&flugzeug=83)

Here's a pic with the plane's right gear hanging out before the belly landing (scroll down):

http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=ueberlebende-ausgabe&flugzeug=83 (http://www.bf-109.com/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=ueberlebende-ausgabe&flugzeug=83)

 :( /EDIT
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Harp00n on April 17, 2008, 05:33:48 AM
Bleh..itīs just a 1950īs Buchon that was modified to look like a german 109 G....  :noid
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Gianlupo on April 17, 2008, 05:37:39 AM
It's really sad to see her down again. Let's hope the guys still have the will to invest money on her.... and be more careful next time! : :frown:
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Nilsen on April 17, 2008, 08:11:44 AM
Pilot error. The dolt forgot to press G

Looks like he is on the gray stuff so he prolly got a successful landing.
Title: Re: 109G-4 Red Seven down again :(
Post by: Wmaker on April 17, 2008, 09:45:06 AM
Quote from: Krusty on April 16, 2008, 05:25:03 PM
I wonder if stopping the prop like that trashes the engine or just kills it?

Looking at the picture this plane uses wooden propeller blades like the Black 6 did when it flew. They are supposed to be easier on the engine in situations like these.