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Help and Support Forums => Aces High Bug Reports => Topic started by: kamilyun on April 17, 2008, 05:13:20 PM
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The Me 163 displays a climb rate on the dial which is 5x that shown in the E6B menu of the clipboard. Either that, or the units are off for something.
Or maybe I'm just retarded.
Please advise.
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Dial is in meters I believe.
Strip
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Yup. 25 m/s ~ 5000 fpm
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The 163 shouldn't be in meters. It's supposed to be feet. No plane in this game uses meters/second for climb rate.
Probably a mis-calibrated instrument (i.e., a bug)
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Now Krusty, you do understand that the 163 was a german aircraft and that germany is in europe.In Europe and everywhere else in the world except for the U.S.A uses the metric system, and metres are metric.
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Now Krusty, you do understand that the 163 was a german aircraft and that germany is in europe.In Europe and everywhere else in the world except for the U.S.A uses the metric system, and metres are metric.
All other European aircraft in the game have American measurements.
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Now Krusty, you do understand that the 163 was a german aircraft and that germany is in europe.In Europe and everywhere else in the world except for the U.S.A uses the metric system, and metres are metric.
I'm sure he does know that, and Motherland's correct, and also you should be careful to ensure your posts don't sound patronising/rude (don't know whether you meant it to be that way or not).
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Yossarian
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In the time since he's posted this I've noticed the same thing. The climb meter is misleading! Besides, I thought the Me163 climbed better than a mere 4500fpm (according to e6b). Hell, even late model spits and prop planes pushed 5000fpm. What the hell use was a rocket if it didn't climb any better?
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Now krusty is you let your 163 fly level for a mile or 2 after take off and gain speed to 400 - 450mph then climb 60- 80 deg's up you will get a climb rate and 10 - 15k a minuntill you run out of speed but by then you will be at 15k or more if u push it, then lowwer your throttle to 70 - 50% and fly to your target with 10 mins of gas to so, its a great tool :)
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That's a zoom climb, not a sustained climb. Using the default auto speed, the climb rate isn't really what one would expect.
Also, I doubt LW pilots in WW2 were flying tree-top level until they got to 500mph :D
They'd have gone straight up, and being the way it is, the 109K was probably a better short-warning bomber killer for getting to alt.
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I've seen film of 163's taking off and they basically fly level for a bit then shoot up like -a rocket-. Then again I don't think the 163 was ever modeled correctly, it doesn't seem like it was a plane that HTC spent a lot of time on(look at the damage model) and was more to be something like our RV-8 is. Just do what Falcon did and your in good shape, I've gone from 500ft to 20,000 at a 90 degree angle with that thing.
P.S. Can we get the big white plume that came out of the 163 while it was flying? :pray
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who uses the climb rate gauge in 163? not me :P
grab 450mph then go straight up is my SOP lol
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In the time since he's posted this I've noticed the same thing. The climb meter is misleading! Besides, I thought the Me163 climbed better than a mere 4500fpm (according to e6b). Hell, even late model spits and prop planes pushed 5000fpm. What the hell use was a rocket if it didn't climb any better?
You musta had a defective 163. Mine can sustain over 10kfpm at 300 ias.
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In the time since he's posted this I've noticed the same thing. The climb meter is misleading! Besides, I thought the Me163 climbed better than a mere 4500fpm (according to e6b). Hell, even late model spits and prop planes pushed 5000fpm. What the hell use was a rocket if it didn't climb any better?
Making marshmallows really, really quickly?
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You musta had a defective 163. Mine can sustain over 10kfpm at 300 ias.
That's not thousands of feet per minute, read the original post! Instrument lists meters per second for some dumb reason!
Check E6B for real climb rate.
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I just flew for 60 seconds with a climb rate of "10" (number on the variometer), and took note of the altitude before and after. The differences was 1000 ft. This agrees with the E6B showing 1000 ft/min.
The varios in every other plane uses 1 unit for 1000 ft/min.
The 163 needs a higher range, but uses 100 ft/min per 1 unit. This causes it to reach the limit at a slow climb of 3000 ft/min.
Could it please be recalibrated to use 1000 ft/min per 1 unit displayed like all other planes, so it can still show something meaningful up to 30000 ft/min?
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100 m/s (~20.000ft/min) seems to have been the maximum on the original gauge in the 163.
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Here....
(http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/Panelnachbau/Erwin/Me163V18/Gif-Gross.JPG)
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I looked on this one, but i see now that it also goes to 150.'
(http://www.airventure.de/dux02pics/Me163_Cockpit_0440.jpg)
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Since nobody specified the altitude of measured climb rate, then nothing said here means squat.
The 163 climbs very differently at sea level than it does at 30k.........or higher.
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6008/6003777241_33a5fac1a7_b.jpg)
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I've seen variometer depending on the year from 36-44 at 100 up to 250.
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The 163 climbs very differently at sea level than it does at 30k.........or higher.
Yes. However, the most significant effect on rate of climb is how much fuel is left. Which at higher altitude typically is a lot less than at lower altitudes.
Whether the max-range of the vario is 30 kft/min or 50 kft/min doesn't matter much. Just the current 3 kft/min are a bit too limited.
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When there was a bug that "refueled" your plane after a disco, I tested this and found altitude had a huge impact on rate of climb as well as speed.
I used to routinely fly a 163 to the tank bowl in the crater MA map, bag a plane or two, and fly back over the mountains to land.
The key is to burn as little fuel as possible to get to altitude and I never fly the 163 with more than 1/2 throttle and most often the throttle is only advanced until I see the fuel burn move just slightly above the minimum.
At high altitudes, you can fly faster than the plane can handle at this setting but at low altitude it barely stays above stall speed.
Some missions last longer than 30 minutes.