Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Mister Fork on April 18, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
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Civil behavior is valued, and required, in this arena.
Japan vs USA
Allies - Bishop
Axis - Knights
35 troop capture......
VHH, FTH, BMH hardness 1.5
VHH, FTH, BMH downtime 15mins
BAB hardness 3.0
BAB downtime 60mins
CV hardness 2.5
town downtime 45mins
AAA 2.0
Change country: 90 minutes
American Bases:
C-47A
B-25
B-26
P-47D-25
P-40E
P-38L
P-51B
M Series
Jeeps
LVT's
USN Carriers:
Each carrier has one type of fighter consisting of:
F4U series
FM2
F6F
All have:
TBM
SBD
PT Boats
LVT's
Japan Forces:
A6M5
B5N2
D3A-1
Ki-61
Ki-67
Ki-84
NIK2-J
M-16
M-3
M-8
Jeeps
LVT's
Good luck all!
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I will be in there!
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Axis is Knights?? i thought we were rooks??
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We were having some issues with the default setup for Okinawa ~ we changed the country type. don't worry, our default is still Bish-Axis and Rooks-Allied. :salute
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base capture still on?
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Knights are axis still. I hope this base capture thing is not going to lead into another tour in an empty arena. Course I already killed my first landing craft, soooooooo.
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Knights are axis still. I hope this base capture thing is not going to lead into another tour in an empty arena. Course I already killed my first landing craft, soooooooo.
You complain about people leaving the arena becuase of play brought about by "base capture" and in the next sentence tell us you vulched a landing airplane. :huh
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Was just up there. Am I the only one this happened to?
I bailed out, twice. Each time, I couldn't End Sortie until I'd actually reached the ground, as opposed to the way it usually is where you can End Sortie as soon as the chute opens. Luckily I wasn't too high up.
Is this some new thing for AvA?
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fergot to turn on. since fixed. :salute
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I said landing craft, as in LVT.
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Hummm.i really dont want to fly Jap plane
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I said landing craft, as in LVT.
I see. My apologies.
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Maybe I missed it. What determines the winner?
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No winner here i think, just old style AVA correct?
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No winner. And for now, I've disabled base capture. Wasn't adding any value to the old-style setup.
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I've disabled base capture.
:aok
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With no base capture and no objectives what are we supposed to do? Fly around in a glorified DA again? We had a blast last night trying to take bases and we had some very intense battles with the Axis defense; sounds like nobody has any reason to defend anything now. I'm afraid the arena will be back to an echo in no time with out bases captures.
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With no base capture and no objectives what are we supposed to do? Fly around in a glorified DA again? We had a blast last night trying to take bases and we had some very intense battles with the Axis defense; sounds like nobody has any reason to defend anything now. I'm afraid the arena will be back to an echo in no time with out bases captures.
Objectives for both sides - Kill as many red guys as you can.
Hopefully it will be back to its old self so we can have good fights.
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What about CV fleets. I came across a 4 CV mega fleet steaming towards 19 today. Are they sinkable? They seem to rebuild their damage in a short amount of time.
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With no base capture and no objectives what are we supposed to do? Fly around in a glorified DA again? We had a blast last night trying to take bases and we had some very intense battles with the Axis defense; sounds like nobody has any reason to defend anything now. I'm afraid the arena will be back to an echo in no time with out bases captures.
From another post, it would allow base capture and raids but get rid of the overall war and resets which are meaningless because of numbers imbalances and off-hour play. Here is the idea ...
So how do we get more of the early part of the war and far less of the late part? Reset the map every night so everynight is like the early war. It would break it down into nightly combats. We could keep base capture then as some like the Jabo raids. We could switch sides each night as it won't matter the next day, the maps are reset. Alternatively, the staff could arrange a different base layout everynight on the same map rather than just resetting. This would allow us to fight over different parts of the map on different days. It would not have to be every night if staff is not avaiable but everyone should expect the maps to reset at any time off peak hours (peak hours defined as Eurpopean or US peak hours of play).
I think it would be easy enough to try and would allow base captures for squads that enjoy that. It will also encourage some ground combat which is a nice mix once in awhile. Just a thought.
Venom
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With no base capture and no objectives what are we supposed to do? Fly around in a glorified DA again? We had a blast last night trying to take bases and we had some very intense battles with the Axis defense; sounds like nobody has any reason to defend anything now. I'm afraid the arena will be back to an echo in no time with out bases captures.
Lutrel,
I know this next setup may not be your cup of tea. I'd like to see you guys stay on through the setups that have no base capture or no clear victory objectives. The AVA staff is working to find the best fit for the AVA communities divided tastes. I'd like to see the day when there is a perfect formula the staff can come up with to please everybody. I doubt that can happen but they're trying the best they can. If nothing else changing the format every few weeks may be their only option. I know this means a lot of guys get pissed, take their toys and leave. I'm thinking you guys are better than that. The best solution would be if we all just gut up and fly the setups we don't like to support the arena, and then enjoy the ones we do like. Change is constant in the AVA, and the next war is already planned and being ironed out. This is a good chance to work on air to air skills. If you want to do raids, it's a good time to run your missions and measure your succes on getting in and hitting the target. Base capture was not the historic measuring deivce for raids anyway.
<S>
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On behalf of the 339th we are happy to be here and love the AVA setup. Keep up the good work!
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Can I have the definition of a good fight??
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Can I have the definition of a good fight??
One where I win?
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Can I have the definition of a good fight??
Lasting longer than 30 seconds..?
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How about shut off base capture at off peak hours. Maybe no base capture except between 6 and 11 PM EST.
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I believe Venom is on to something here with the map rest every night, or at least every other night, until the next war begins. This would prevent the porking of the map and at the same time allow the same type of fighting we enjoyed last night. We had sea battles, base captures, and GV battles; it was a great time for all involved.
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How about shut off base capture at off peak hours. Maybe no base capture except between 6 and 11 PM EST.
That sounds like it would solve the problem :pray
BT
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That sounds like it would solve the problem :pray
BT
All it would do is enable the milkrunners to run in the off hours. I don't see how this would solve any percieved problems. It would just create more, one example is the staff would have to reset everything twice a day. Another would be all the enjoyable milkrunhodweeb threads. There are no problems to this setup, it's a classic AVA style setup. If there is a problem it's that some people expect to have everything their way every setup every day. I'll never understand how people can take this great sim, and do nothing but find things to complain about.
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What about CV fleets. I came across a 4 CV mega fleet steaming towards 19 today. Are they sinkable? They seem to rebuild their damage in a short amount of time.
I believe hardness was upped to keep the fleets from all being sunk all at once when steamed right up to the shoreline by intrepid would-be invasion oriented Allied admirals. The four seperate fleets I steamed that direction for you, arai, stopped well short of 19 but provided you with plenty of targets to practice bombing. I saw the dedication you had in going after Charlie Five yesterday morning and after enjoying our encounters (<salute> each time) I supposed you actually wanted them closer to 19 than far away to facilitate sinking them. Without me online and with respawns of the fleets an inevitability it seemed a rather nice gesture on my part to leave you with a target rich enviroment when I logged. Our 1v1 time in the arena was some of the most enjoyable moments of AHII for me. Thanks for your dedication in all the various aircraft you flew then. :salute
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I believe Venom is on to something here with the map rest every night, or at least every other night, until the next war begins. This would prevent the porking of the map and at the same time allow the same type of fighting we enjoyed last night. We had sea battles, base captures, and GV battles; it was a great time for all involved.
It would be nice if the large squads could coordinate their squad nights to fall on the same night. Perhaps every Tuesday and Thursday and maybe a weekend day. They could be the "war" days where base capture is on and with good squad participation. Base capture could be turned off on other days but the map would not change from the previous war day. We would have the current setup of the DA style AvA between war days.
The thought being that there would be good turnout for war days as they are not every day and they would be the squad nights. It could potentially avoid the lopsided numbers which hurt the war concept. There would be time to plan and practice between war days during the DA time where the map is static (where the map was at the end of last war day). This will also give the dogfighters a break from the war so they would still have their old AvA between war days. It would potentially work with the new war style being planned also.
Venom
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I like this idea.
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I play pretty much every single day. We seem to have a lot of people playing every day in the prime times any ways. It seems to me that the problem of lop sided payers started when you made it 24 hours to be able to switch back to the side you are normally on. That's what happened to me any ways. I use to switch to axis to even the sides up all the time but when I had to stay over there for 24 hours I never switched sides again un till they just made it no time limit to switch side. I use to go help the axis then when more of there payer showed up I would go back alied.
You should consider there are a lot of new people that are coming in and out all the time that would not know what is going on. Like I sead in another thread that I didn't even no there was some sort of a contest going on to even win un till just recently.
I think probably the simpler your make things the better they will be. Like if we were not having something to win and just playing the map like most people do in the MA there would not be any spying or people coming in on the slow hours trying to pork the map and get an advantage.
BlueTop
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I want my war back.
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I believe war is on the horizon. Patience, son of Mars.