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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LTARGlok on April 18, 2008, 09:32:55 PM
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Just a brief follow up on the murder trial of former Navy Medic Tyke Supanchick for killing his estranged wife Kelly, that I initially reported several days ago.
The trial has not gone well at all for Supanchick. It turns out that he never even saw combat while he was in Iraq. In fact, he never even treated or saw any wounded while he was there either. It turned out that his attorney's entire argument that he suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder was the fact that he worked as a tour guide at the Pentagon on 9/11/2001, when it was attacked.
Yesterday, however, an expert psychologist testified that Supanchick has never exhibited the classic symptoms of PTSD. In fact, the psychologist said that Supanchick's psychological test results indicated that he had a serious personality disorder.
Final arguments were this morning, and the judge gave the case to the jury at 11:45am this morning. At 12 noon, the jury reported back to the Judge that they did not need to take their lunch break, and deliberate any more in the afternoon, as they had already reached a verdict.
So after less than 15 minutes of deliberations, the jury came back to the courtroom to give a verdict of guilty of first degree murder with aggravating circumstances. Courtroom observers said that they could not remember any murder case where a jury took so very little time to reach a verdict. Apparently none of the evidence that was presented by the defense was believed at all.
In the next phase of the trial, the jury will now decide whether to give Supanchick death, or life in prison. Courtroom reports say that it looks very bad for Supanchick, due to how fast the jury came back with the guilty verdict. A number of jurors were also said to have gasped when they saw the crime scene photos of Kelly Supanchick's dead body, riddled from 3 shotgun blasts to her chest, and another one to her head at point blank range.
So Supanchick may well end up getting the needle.
Here is today's newspaper report on yesterday's courtroom developments in the trial:
http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.cms.support.viewStory.cls?cid=95040&sid=4&fid=2
And here is tonight's TV news report on today's verdict:
http://www.kezi.com/article.aspx?id=30862§ion=news&contentCat=local
There are six men, and six women on the jury.
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being strapped down and watching them inject you with death...not a pleasant way to go. justice depends on if she deserved it or not. some partners can easily drive each other to murder with a cruel mind fighting blind love that turns to rage. then again, probably better out of his misery.
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being strapped down and watching them inject you with death...not a pleasant way to go. justice depends on if she deserved it or not. some partners can easily drive each other to murder with a cruel mind fighting blind love that turns to rage. then again, probably better out of his misery.
Yes, going painlessly and unconsciously is terrible.
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I think life in prison would be far worse than death.
The only problem is that I have to support their worthless butts for as long as they are breathing, and they get better medical than I do.
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I think life in prison would be far worse than death.
Tell that to someone who realizes that they WILL die for the crimes they committed.
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In fact, the psychologist said that Supanchick's psychological test results indicated that he had a serious personality disorder.
This is exactly what I predicted in the other thread!! What do I win?
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Yes, going painlessly and unconsciously is terrible.
How do you know it's painless? I dont remember any of the ones that get it leaving any feedback.
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Well, you don't have to have seen any combat to get PTSD, we learned that right here in the O'Club. You might even have nightmares and call in arty strikes in your sleep!
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Well, you don't have to have seen any combat to get PTSD
Well.....you are right about that.
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if there were ever a case of someone deserving the death penalty, this one almost convinced me.
but seeing as I am a firm anti-death penalty advocate I hope they give him life with no chance of parole.
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yep mt.. just like you never needed to be a slave to have suffered from slavery and call for reparations.
lazs
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Tell that to someone who realizes that they WILL die for the crimes they committed.
Comprehension is a big part of being able too understand what you read. I'll help you out here.
Normally when a sentance is began with "I think" it means that it is someones personal opinion.
And here is an example;
I think that I don't care what some murdering sob realizes. I also think that the remainder of his days on this earth should be as miserable as can be made for him.
That concludes your reading comprehension lesson for the day.
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yep mt.. just like you never needed to be a slave to have suffered from slavery and call for reparations.
lazs
You forgot the guns and seatbelts lazs... you slippin in your old age?
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I also think that the remainder of his days on this earth should be as miserable as can be made for him.
Sorry but that is a violation of the cruel and unusual punishment situation. You are not allowed to go out of your way to make them miserable. That lack of freedom does make people miserable to date has not been sufficient to cause a release of prisoners is only because the folks who feel sorry for convicts have not brought suit successfully yet. I think it may yet come to pass that holding a person responsible for their act will be considered cruel and unusual. It's already starting to get unusual now.
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if there were ever a case of someone deserving the death penalty, this one almost convinced me.
but seeing as I am a firm anti-death penalty advocate I hope they give him life with no chance of parole.
What, your agreement or opposition to the death penalty is if someone "deserves" it or not? And if you hear about a perticularly henious crime you're swayed in your convictions?
What happened to convictions like a civilized society doesn't use a death penalty? Or DNA evidence may someday clear a convicted? Or it costs more to execute someone than it does to warehouse them? Obviously you could make an argument that ANY cold blooded killer "deserves" to die, and I agree- but do they deserve to die at the hands of society?
I can think of a dozen different arguments both pro and con on the death penalty, and "deserving" to die isn't one of them, not from either POV.
The problem we have in liberalism is we've attracted people to our cause who don't think of issues and form their own opinions- they "join up" because they think it's cool to be liberal, and maybe make a protest sign with half the words spelled wrong and join the rest of the non thinkers picketing the Marine Corps recruiting office in Berkeley.
Of course the conservatives have the same problem, judging by the right wing discombobulated nonsencical posts made here, but I don't expect Conservatives to think- liberals, however, I hold to a higher standard.
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How do you know it's painless? I dont remember any of the ones that get it leaving any feedback.
Hopefully they die an agonizing death in severe pain. Why care about a stinking piece of murdering trash. Did he care about his victim?? No!
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Hopefully they die an agonizing death in severe pain. Why care about a stinking piece of murdering trash. Did he care about his victim?? No!
Allah Akbar.
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What, your agreement or opposition to the death penalty is if someone "deserves" it or not? And if you hear about a perticularly henious crime you're swayed in your convictions?
What happened to convictions like a civilized society doesn't use a death penalty? Or DNA evidence may someday clear a convicted? Or it costs more to execute someone than it does to warehouse them? Obviously you could make an argument that ANY cold blooded killer "deserves" to die, and I agree- but do they deserve to die at the hands of society?
I can think of a dozen different arguments both pro and con on the death penalty, and "deserving" to die isn't one of them, not from either POV.
The problem we have in liberalism is we've attracted people to our cause who don't think of issues and form their own opinions- they "join up" because they think it's cool to be liberal, and maybe make a protest sign with half the words spelled wrong and join the rest of the non thinkers picketing the Marine Corps recruiting office in Berkeley.
Of course the conservatives have the same problem, judging by the right wing discombobulated nonsencical posts made here, but I don't expect Conservatives to think- liberals, however, I hold to a higher standard.
I think I got PTSD reading this!
Aaaarrrrggggghhhhh!
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C'mon man, maybe the guy served in tunnels!
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yep mt.. just like you never needed to be a slave to have suffered from slavery and call for reparations.
lazs
stop shaking his world lazs, he might learn to dislike you.
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What, your agreement or opposition to the death penalty is if someone "deserves" it or not? And if you hear about a perticularly henious crime you're swayed in your convictions?
What happened to convictions like a civilized society doesn't use a death penalty? Or DNA evidence may someday clear a convicted? Or it costs more to execute someone than it does to warehouse them? Obviously you could make an argument that ANY cold blooded killer "deserves" to die, and I agree- but do they deserve to die at the hands of society?
I can think of a dozen different arguments both pro and con on the death penalty, and "deserving" to die isn't one of them, not from either POV.
The problem we have in liberalism is we've attracted people to our cause who don't think of issues and form their own opinions- they "join up" because they think it's cool to be liberal, and maybe make a protest sign with half the words spelled wrong and join the rest of the non thinkers picketing the Marine Corps recruiting office in Berkeley.
Of course the conservatives have the same problem, judging by the right wing discombobulated nonsencical posts made here, but I don't expect Conservatives to think- liberals, however, I hold to a higher standard.
I have plenty of reasons for being against the death penalty. You've listed many. Ask for them next time instead of just knocking on someone, k?
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You do know that drugs are counter revolutionary, right?
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There are fates far worse than death, and for me being locked up in a cage for the rest of my life would be far worse than knowing when and where I was going to die.
As for the death penalty I am for it. I believe that if you commit a crime that is henious enough you should be put down, just like a rabid dog would be put down.
The only issue I see in the way that the death penalty is used in the U.S.A. is that it does not seem to be the same way for all people ie. more blacks receive the death penalty than whites, woman are almost never given the death penalty even though some are just as deserving, if not more so than there male conterparts.
Now I don't think that the death penalty should be imposed like it is in China where you can be executed for things like drug abuse, or government officials excepting bribes.
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Hopefully they die an agonizing death in severe pain. Why care about a stinking piece of murdering trash. Did he care about his victim?? No!
Thats one thing I dont like. Most people who get it did horrible crimes where the victim suffered. Why do we feel the need to render them unconscious before puting them down. Id like to see it where they get the same as they did to thier victim or let the family of the victim punish them how they see fit.
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Thats one thing I dont like. Most people who get it did horrible crimes where the victim suffered. Why do we feel the need to render them unconscious before puting them down. Id like to see it where they get the same as they did to thier victim or let the family of the victim punish them how they see fit.
I think it would be very fitting if they let the victims family decide how the offender would be delt with.
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Thats one thing I dont like. Most people who get it did horrible crimes where the victim suffered. Why do we feel the need to render them unconscious before puting them down. Id like to see it where they get the same as they did to thier victim or let the family of the victim punish them how they see fit.
I always believed that "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" wasn't an absolute statement, but a relative statement.
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it thought the military still uses fireing squads :huh
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This is exactly what I predicted in the other thread!! What do I win?
Nothing, other than the fact that you now have proof that you are insightful and know human nature well.
Perhaps psychology would be a good career choice for you to consider to pursue, if you have not already done so.
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Well, you don't have to have seen any combat to get PTSD, we learned that right here in the O'Club. You might even have nightmares and call in arty strikes in your sleep!
That is most true. I know that some divorces can be as bad as engaging in hand to hand combat.
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Allah Akbar.
I still want to know why Allah is spending time at a bar??? Does this mean that he drinks hard liquor?
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I still want to know why Allah is spending time at a bar??? Does this mean that he drinks hard liquor?
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Hes pickin' up virgins to bring back with him
:D
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I am definitely way too subtle.
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Hopefully they die an agonizing death in severe pain. Why care about a stinking piece of murdering trash. Did he care about his victim?? No!
Shuffler, between this and your posts advocating death to protesters I really think you have more in common with the Islamic extremists than you do with most of us.
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