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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on April 21, 2008, 02:38:26 PM
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From Ft.Worth Star-Telegram (http://www.star-telegram.com/state_news/story/587137.html).
Yes friends, the man I love to hate. The undisputed leader in slimy politics... The king of ethics violations... The prince of the police state... and first runner-up in the wet t-shirt contest at Mother Blues... Texas Republican (and my district's represenative) Phil King has implimented another intrusion into my private life inside my home, behind locked doors.
Careless smokers will have a new safeguard against accidentally starting a house fire, thanks to new fire-safe cigarettes going on the Texas market in the coming months.
The product of 2007 legislation, cigarettes sold in Texas beginning on Jan. 1, 2009 will include bands of less porous paper that should result in a slower-burning cigarette that goes out by itself if left unattended.
State Rep. Phil King, the Weatherford Republican who authored the fire-safe cigarette bill, is hoping for fewer accidental house fires. He believes the legislation will save lives.
"My local fire marshal contacted me about the fire-safe cigarette idea before last session and told me about how many lives it had saved in other states," King said in a prepared statement. "I started doing a little research on it and quickly realized that there were no added costs and it was easy to implement. I began wondering why we didn't already have this law in place."
Cigarettes were responsible for approximately 500 residential house fires and 10 house-fire deaths in Texas in 2006, the latest year that figures were available, according to the Texas Department of Insurance. Wildfires caused by smokers also burned almost 50,000 acres of land that year, according to the Insurance Council of Texas, an industry trade group.
The new cigarettes typically self-extinguish because they're wrapped in two or three bands of less porous paper. The bands act as "speed bumps" that slow down burning, according to the Texas Department of Insurance.
At least 20 other states now have similar laws.
I always hear that the liberal democrats are responsable for nanny state issues like this. But when you take a good look, most of these intrusive regulations, laws and layers of government come from conservative republicans. What else are they going to do in the name of "safety" (translated:insurance company whims)? You know 93.7% of all children injured while riding in cars were not wearing bubblewrap.... Hey Phil!!!
Phil King
(http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/images/2007/04/02/nedflanders.jpg)
oops...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40155000/jpg/_40155302_philking203courtesy.jpg)
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It goes both ways.
The republicans seem to be in the pocket of the insurance industry, which is probably why Bush is a major supporter of seat belt laws. Probably find some insurance industry push behind this as well.
The democrats seem to do a lot of feel good stuff to appease the environmental base and, with gun laws, to avoid dealing with the community responsibility issues among base supporters.
Pick your poison.
Vote Ron Paul.
Charon
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oh noes! safer cigaretz papers to prevent fires! my freedom friez is burning!
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I always hear that the liberal democrats are responsable for nanny state issues like this. But when you take a good look, most of these intrusive regulations, laws and layers of government come from conservative republicans.
Where can one take a look at these very specific claims you make?
I would be interested in see the stats showing conservative republicans being more responsible for intrusive regulations, laws and layers of government.
Can this guy pass this bill all by himself? What is the power makeup of the Texas gov?
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From Ft.Worth Star-Telegram (http://www.star-telegram.com/state_news/story/587137.html).
I always hear that the liberal democrats are responsable for nanny state issues like this. But when you take a good look, most of these intrusive regulations, laws and layers of government come from conservative republicans.
I took a good look. Funny but you are wrong, just plain wrong. Maybe next time, you'll actually do some research before making a statement.
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Yet another Republican who has dictatorial powers over our lives...
Or perhaps some others, maybe even some Democrats, passed H.B. 2935.
131 Yeas, 4 Nays, 2 Present, not voting. Maybe there are only 4 Democrats in the Texas legislature.
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What freedom is being violated with that law?
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Ya, I'll bite.
Nasty republicans want a cig that, if you fall asleep smoking, you don't burn yourself and others down.
Almighty democrats want to take over the health care system, and for the greater good, won't allow you to smoke at all.
Hmm, ok. I'll keep voting republican, thank you very much :)
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OK, I toss ya one Steve. The Mother of intrusive government...
To the Congress of the United States:
As concern with the condition of our physical environment has intensified, it has become increasingly clear that we need to know more about the total environment--land, water, and air. It also has become increasingly clear that only by reorganizing our Federal efforts can we develop that knowledge, and effectively ensure the protection, development and enhancement of the total environment itself.
The Government's environmentally-related activities have grown up piecemeal over the years. The time has come to organize them rationally and systematically. As a major step in this direction, I am transmitting today two reorganization plans: one to establish an Environmental Protection Agency, and one to establish, with the Department of Commerce, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Richard Nixon
The White House
July 9, 1970
I am not just plain wrong. If you guys would unwrap yourselves from your "anything but a democrat" security blankets you might see what is commonly referred to as bait and switch.
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You are just plain wrong.. You said MOST.. this is wrong... just wrong.
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I guess that's your opinion. I have'nt seen anything to the contrary.
Here's another off the top of my head...
Selling public highways to foreign governments and turn them into toll roads...Rick Perry (R)
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I guess that's your opinion. I have'nt seen anything to the contrary.
Here's another off the top of my head...
Selling public highways to foreign governments and turn them into toll roads...Rick Perry (R)
That's two... that's a long way from most.... wrong boy.
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Well seeing as I have posted three (learn to count wrongboy) and you got nothing. The FAUX News tactic of declaring yourself right with nothing to back it up don't work round here. Republicans want to get their bossy little fingers in everybody's buisness.
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He's right about the highways... Unfortunately.
Here's another unfortunate happening, blame this one on Ol' Bill:
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA253.html
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I guess that's your opinion. I have'nt seen anything to the contrary.
Here's another off the top of my head...
Selling public highways to foreign governments and turn them into toll roads...Rick Perry (R)
I believe that was done by the ENTIRE legislature....both sides. Perry is but the signer of the bill....that was passed by both houses. I'm pretty sure this is the case.
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That deal was Rick Perry's baby from the get go.
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That deal was Rick Perry's baby from the get go.
Could be....but it wasn't like BOTH sides of the isle weren't on board.
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I'm in a position to see alot....Without going into to detail that could get me in trouble I'll say that MOST on both sides....are....hmmm...differ ant.
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I have news for you... BOTH parties are made up largely of globalist-socialist types. It is all about power and keeping that power as long as possible I no longer have a tie to either party... HOWEVER I have found a FEW honorable individuals here and there. Senator Jim DeMint stands out. Unfortunately I have no-one to vote for for top spot in November... But then again I only liked my choices in 84 and 96 in my adult life anyway - just this year i REFUSE to vote FOR someone because i dislike someone else more - never, ever again.
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From an outsiders point of view it all starts when the guys in office start their careers in politics and it gets worse the higher up they get. The key word is fundraising and how well bought they _all_ are. From watching cnn atleast it looks like about half the the stories about elections are about how much each candidate has gotten in funds, and very litte is about politics at all. I have always wondered why no americans react at all to that kind of outright corruption. Is it just so much out in the open that you just cant see the forrest for all the trees?
Dont shoot me, its just my take on american politics in general.
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Dont shoot me, its just my take on american politics in general.
I'd say you have a handle on it.
Federally,
Our representatives tend to go to the capital and forget about home until re-election time.
Thomas Jefferson went home when he wasn't a government official. In Oregon, Hatfield and Packwood, our most powerful Senators, now retired, didn't come back to Oregon when the retired from the enate, they stayed in DC.
Tells me something about how well we were represented.
Once Americans start to realise that the congress needs to be replaced at least as often as the executive branch status quo will prevail.
Probably applys for the vast majority of the states as well.
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If people would just take the time to notice............there is no such thing as a Dem or Rep anymore.
They are just banners.....political eBay. Sold to the highest bidder.
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Here's another one for wrongboy...
[/quote]Congressman Paul Broun, a Conservative Republican from Georgia has introduced a bill (H.R. 5821) that bans the sale of pornography on military installations.[/quote]