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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Jester on April 23, 2008, 11:08:34 PM
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Anyone know of a sound set for the P-38 Lightning?
The one we have on our P-38 just doesn't sound like the real thing to me. The ones I have heard at airshows sound more like a high-pitched whine of a drill or something. Would love to have something more like the real thing.
For that matter anyone know of a good site with all kinds of sounds for aircraft we can use on AH2?
Thanks in advance. :aok
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In this sound pack I have actual recorded p38L sounds from within the cockpit put into the game.
http://www.arabian-knights.org/files/SketchworksAK_Soundpack.rar
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Use USRangers sound pack. It opened my eyes! :O The sound of twin 38's is a beautiful thing when used properly.
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Thanks for the tips guys. :salute
Never thought to look in the SOUNDS AND SKINS FORUM. Looseing it I guess. :rolleyes:
Thanks again. :aok
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I have a completely authentic set, from startup to shutdown, though I haven't quite gotten around to working on converting and processing the sounds yet. I don't think my computer could handle it, honestly...
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I have a completely authentic set, from startup to shutdown, though I haven't quite gotten around to working on converting and processing the sounds yet. I don't think my computer could handle it, honestly...
you tease.
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I have a completely authentic set, from startup to shutdown, though I haven't quite gotten around to working on converting and processing the sounds yet. I don't think my computer could handle it, honestly...
Agree - Somebody get FEMA on the phone and have them buy this man a new computer right away!
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I have a completely authentic set, from startup to shutdown, though I haven't quite gotten around to working on converting and processing the sounds yet. I don't think my computer could handle it, honestly...
As so are mine, along with the p51, spits, 109's, b17's, b24's, lancs, b25's, b26's c47's, F4U's, F6f's, Zekes, Yaks, 190A series, TBM's, SBD's, and the ME262 (actual jumo engine). Think there more but To many to remember of hand.
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BTW fruda, what software u use? I currently using Adobe auditions 3.0 for all the Normailizing, cutting, adding, fade, mixing, converting, taking out hiss, click and pop etc...
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As so are mine, along with the p51, spits, 109's, b17's, b24's, lancs, b25's, b26's c47's, F4U's, F6f's, Zekes, Yaks, 190A series, TBM's, SBD's, and the ME262 (actual jumo engine). Think there more but To many to remember of hand.
I have almost all of them, and they're from very high-quality source waveforms, painstakingly edited (and sadly downgraded) to fit into AHII.
Though I'd like to view your sounds and see if those really are authentic, as I've actually been by most of those aircraft.
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BTW fruda, what software u use? I currently using Adobe auditions 3.0 for all the Normailizing, cutting, adding, fade, mixing, converting, taking out hiss, click and pop etc...
Cool Edit Pro 2.1., of course.
I strongly advise against taking out hiss... Usually, that's actually party of the sound.
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I have almost all of them, and they're from very high-quality source waveforms, painstakingly edited (and sadly downgraded) to fit into AHII.
Though I'd like to view your sounds and see if those really are authentic, as I've actually been by most of those aircraft.
They all are Fruda as we got them from a company that does these recordings. I can't remember the website off hand right now as I am on my laptop and sitting in temp. lodging as I am out-processing the Air Force right now and all my stuff is on a truck heading back home. If Dogg pops in here he will be able to tell you.
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http://www.oldplanes.com/sounds.htm
There is 1 of them. I can't seem to find the other as it was very hard to find in the first place.
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They all are Fruda as we got them from a company that does these recordings. I can't remember the website off hand right now as I am on my laptop and sitting in temp. lodging as I am out-processing the Air Force right now and all my stuff is on a truck heading back home. If Dogg pops in here he will be able to tell you.
I downloaded the pack, and it's got some nice stuff. But I will give some constructive criticism.
The Wildcat(s) and Corsairs have the same engine sounds, and the P-47s have totally different ones. The Wildcats had a 14-cylinder engine, whereas the Corsairs and Thunderbolts had an 18-cylinder engine (they both had the same engine, but with slightly different gearings, and in the Tunderbolt's case, a bit more power output).
The P-51s and Spitfires have different engine sounds. Why? And all of the Spitfire models, save for the XIV, have the same engine sound. The reality is that the XX and 60-series engines sounded quite a bit different from each other, and several YouTube videos (among other sources) attest to this.
The P-40s and Yaks should have the same engine sounds. The VK-105 was pretty much an Allison V-1710, though it was just a bit smaller. Since the engines were/are so similar, many restored Yaks are outfitted with Allisons, and the difference in sound between the two engines is pretty much zilch.
The Wildcats and Lavochkins should have the same engine sounds, as the Shvetsov 14-cylinder engine was a license-built version of the Twin Wasp. And also note that you should copy the engine sounds from the C-47 and paste them into the Wildcats and Lavochkins, as those are real Twin Wasp recordings. I know that sound anywhere. As for the sounds that are in the Wildcat and Corsair folders already, they sound much more like R-2600s than R-2800s.
The 109s have some off-ish engine sounds. For instance, the default Eng file is a recording from Checkflight Gustav, and while that source is very good (I use it myself), you took it from a point where the landing gear were being raised, thus that whistle-like sound (it's more of a squeak/squeal, really), and not only that, it's at just over half throttle. Eng_1 is similar in that it's not a recording of a full-throttle engine, though it's clear of the background noise. Eng1 is unnecessary, as it's just a clone of Eng_1. Eng2 was recorded at an even lower RPM level than Eng1/_1. Eng3 is a composite of a Merlin XX and some kind of engine howl effect.
The B-17 was done an injustice with its engine sounds, I feel. Like most other packs, this one also uses engine recordings that were done when all four engines were running, which makes an atrocious effect on AHII, since each engine uses the Eng file. What happens is the signal is amplified four times (though about times two as far as overall volume goes), and the mix is muddied and muffled as a result. What needs to be done is quite simple. You need one good source file recorded from a single engine running at full throttle (Wright R-1820, a full soundset that I happen to have), and it must be normalised at 50% volume (75% for twin engine aircraft). Startup and Shutdown sounds must be done the exact same way, or you'll have a wonky-sounding bomber. Once you've got your bomber sounds setup like this, you'll really fall in love with them all over again... It's a totally different experience when it sounds right, rather than just better than the default sounds.
I hope you don't take any of this too harshly, but I really do feel that it's necessary to help all of our content creators do the best job they possibly can, and we won't ever have that quality of work on a community-wide scale if people never criticise anybody's work. Criticism is necessary for the evolution of content creation, for the evolution of the game itself. My dream is to one day have an all-encompassing, robust, authentic sound set for the game, but we really have to work at it and push ourselves to do better than we think we can. It requires hours of work, but in the end, everybody gets a package that improves the experience by leaps and bounds.
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I hope u weren't playing the sounds in WMP or in your editor. I found u have to listen to it in the game as HTC changes the sound alittle in there as well. (ie. pitch). The p38's for ex. If u listen to the eng file in WMP or whatever external player, it sounds fast, sometimes to fast. But when u go into the game it close to correct rpm sound. At least that is what I found. I have the same p38 file in all of them but if u go into the game, U will notice that all have a slight different pitch. This is what happen to me in first release and reason for me to revamp them. I believe that the eng.wav uses the manifold/rpm gauge to set pitch of the eng file. The f4u sounds I have in there, I don't have the actual recording as default. Eng1.wav is the actual recording. I just didn't like it as much,lol. As for the 109's, eng1.wav is the actual recording. Eng.wav is just a whine sound I added to please some people with a supercharger whine. Reason why I included both files.
BTW, I appreciate the input as I will look into what u said. Some of the planes I did just do that, use same file. I didn't have a good recording of the FM2/F4F and just said that the wasp was close enough.
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Thanks for the info Fruda, much appreciated. Dogg has been doing most of the plane engines and I have been working on the guns, ground vehicles as well as all the other sounds for the game. THe pack we have out right now will be redone once I get moved and set up in our new house. Guns will be tweaked so german ones sound different than american, and hit sounds will be different for the ground vehicles going by armor thickness. Dogg has done great so far with these planes and like I said, it is a work in progress as we go on. Most of the aircraft are tough to find engine sounds for, let alone 'good' ones. He (Dogg) has also had more time to put into this as I have been busy with my move. Hopefully in two weeks I will have more time.... :devil
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Anyone know of a sound set for the P-38 Lightning?
The one we have on our P-38 just doesn't sound like the real thing to me. The ones I have heard at airshows sound more like a high-pitched whine of a drill or something. Would love to have something more like the real thing.
For that matter anyone know of a good site with all kinds of sounds for aircraft we can use on AH2?
Thanks in advance. :aok
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I've got a engine sounds from a P-38F (I use it for the G), early J and L.
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