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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: teufl on April 24, 2008, 12:47:21 AM
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Really woulf like to see this dervish against v bases with 4 20mm and 6 50 cal mgs would be a ho---nor to see this take on a fleet or even some gvs that seem unhurtable by most ground attack planes. Brit made would add to a pretty short list of brit ground attack planes. You take out the hurri 2c and the (useless) d model and there really isnt much in that catagory. Also add the 8 rocks or small bombs and would be very versitile, but unfortunately similar in performance to the 110 g.
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All for it :aok the plane would cover early war through to late war. Just add the Australian made version DAP MK21 for the late war era, this is the only model I think had four 50's in the wings all the English models had six 303's. The Beaufighter also carried torpedos as well.
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:aok See my avatar :)
Wikipedia article on the Beaufighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaufighter)
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yup we need this plane.
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This plane saw lots of service all over the place. Long since overdue here in AH.
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:aok
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This plane saw lots of service all over the place. Long since overdue here in AH.
Agree 1000% :aok :aok The Beaufighter was to the Brit's and Aussie's what the Ju-88 was to the Germans. This plane did everything.
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Agree 1000% :aok :aok The Beaufighter was to the Brit's and Aussie's what the Ju-88 was to the Germans. This plane did everything.
to be fair the JU-88 was designed to be a german version of the mossie.
I do think this would be a great plane!
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to be fair the JU-88 was designed to be a german version of the mossie.
I do think this would be a great plane!
Ermm....
The first Ju88 flew in 1936, and the Mosquito was designed in 1938.
The Germany must have had really good foresight.
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I like it.
:aok
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Ermm....
The first Ju88 flew in 1936, and the Mosquito was designed in 1938.
The Germany must have had really good foresight.
Or a really good Time Machine :D
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to be fair the JU-88 was designed to be a german version of the mossie.
I do think this would be a great plane!
actually,the germans HAD a mossie of their own,it was a copy of the real mossie,but it wasn't as fast
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All for this idea :aok :D :rock
Great plane, and I want as many British planes as possible :)
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Yossarian
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actually,the germans HAD a mossie of their own,it was a copy of the real mossie,but it wasn't as fast
It wasn't a copy, it just happened to also be made of wood. Apparently the otherwise exceptional German engineering of the time didn't apply to adhesives. These things liked to disintegrate in flight, just like the He-162, and for the same reason. Apparently Heinkel had already reserved the name "Shredding Plywood Coffin" for the 162, so Kurt Tank just went with "Moskito" (maybe he figured he could blame it on the British :D).
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For you guys that wonder (or care) what I'm talking about, here ya go.
Ta-154 Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHcd2aq3tU
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You have my vote for the Beaufighter.
Id like to add the He111 and Me410.
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It wasn't a copy, it just happened to also be made of wood. Apparently the otherwise exceptional German engineering of the time didn't apply to adhesives. These things liked to disintegrate in flight, just like the He-162, and for the same reason. Apparently Heinkel had already reserved the name "Shredding Plywood Coffin" for the 162, so Kurt Tank just went with "Moskito" (maybe he figured he could blame it on the British :D).
The British bombed the factory which made the glue for the 'Moskito', so they had to use another type which wasn't very effective :devil :lol
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Two thumbs up for the Beau to be added to the AH inventory! :aok :aok
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Ok I have stirred the pot, here goes, the ta 154 Moskito was a direct copy of the mosquito, and being of wood, had some huge glue problems, however, getting back to the beaufiter(wow) how we get here, there is no real equivelent in any airforce, hard hitting, very ellusive and pretty good top speed(329mph at sl), we really need this brit how ya doing sorry had to ruin yer day fiter in the AH air force. AND PLEASE the HS 129 doesnt even come close...........I SAY GOOD DAY!
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Ok I have stirred the pot, here goes, the ta 154 Moskito was a direct copy of the mosquito, and being of wood, had some huge glue problems, however, getting back to the beaufiter(wow) how we get here, there is no real equivelent in any airforce, hard hitting, very ellusive and pretty good top speed(329mph at sl), we really need this brit how ya doing sorry had to ruin yer day fiter in the AH air force. AND PLEASE the HS 129 doesnt even come close...........I SAY GOOD DAY!
Direct copy? :huh With a tandem cockpit and a nose wheel? :huh The only thing they had in common was ... wood.
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I believe hiel Hitler said gibt mir eine mossie and the ta 154 was born. YES adhessives Yes the tandom Yes the slower plane but EEEEEEEEEK it was developed in 6 months and really had no after work done on it. Then you have the He 219 and the super ju88 night fiter coming in, WHY(OH YES WHY) would you keep another plane for the same purpose :eek:
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Direct copy? :huh With a tandem cockpit and a nose wheel? :huh The only thing they had in common was ... wood.
Ya it was made from wood it was made for night fighting. :D :O
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Reeely the mossie was made from wood, the beaufighter was YES originally a night fiter but found its own in ground attack. Dont know if it was wood but it gives me wood to see it in the game :rofl
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We've been suggesting the Beaufighter for a long time.
Always better to spell it right in the thread title I'd think :)
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Beaufighter is long long overdue. Yep, we want it, we need it, big plus for scenarios and FSO's.
Actually this last patch left me very unimpressed.
I was sure we would see at the very least the 410.
It was a good patch fix wise, but nothing new at all? Come on!
You KNOW we are addicts, you made us this way.
Have a little pity. Give us something NEW to fly please!
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:aok for Filton's finest :D
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:aok :aok roger that
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Do we get night along with it?
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Beaufighter is long long overdue. Yep, we want it, we need it, big plus for scenarios and FSO's.
Actually this last patch left me very unimpressed.
I was sure we would see at the very least the 410.
It was a good patch fix wise, but nothing new at all? Come on!
You KNOW we are addicts, you made us this way.
Have a little pity. Give us something NEW to fly please!
Maybe we see something after or at the con?
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410 had no real qualities cept guns/ I still think the remote control rear guns gives skuzy more head aches than just hangovers. 410 was a bomber killer and as far as gv attack, bout the same as 110 but with less performance and if i remember a real spinner, OK for girls but not gv attack. ALWAYS must see how they are modeled. Also a mossie want a be, what 376 ar 15k, wel some speed :noid Sorry for mis spelling but heck with 4 20mm and 6 303, i can mispell keel too
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Dap mk21 would be nice. (http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4205/beaua8328lgezq4.th.gif) (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beaua8328lgezq4.gif)(http://img60.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://www.thescale.info/news/publish/dap-beaufighter.shtml Some gun camera footage of Beaufighters in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLV67xILI4
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I'm all for the Beau.although I think the axis planeset needs improvement first.Ki45 comes to mind or the Me410 with it's Mk 103/30mm of luv.I'm not sure the KI had the punch to takeout GV's but the 410 with 30mm tungsten core ammo or the BK's would do the job.
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yea i love the beaufighter its probably my favorite bomber :aok
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yea i love the beaufighter its probably my favorite bomber :aok
As you might be able to determine from the name and a smidgen of thought, it isn't a bomber, it is a fighter.
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He knew that, he was just testing you. :D
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(http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/top/v/BEA17.jpg)
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It has my vote.
:aok
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Ok Furbie, you have me intrigued.
Which, what, where? Looks like a mark 2, but an upper turret?
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run to shelters dantoo is intrigued !!!! :D
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410 had no real qualities cept guns/ I still think the remote control rear guns gives skuzy more head aches than just hangovers. 410 was a bomber killer and as far as gv attack, bout the same as 110 but with less performance and if i remember a real spinner, OK for girls but not gv attack. ALWAYS must see how they are modeled. Also a mossie want a be, what 376 ar 15k, wel some speed :noid Sorry for mis spelling but heck with 4 20mm and 6 303, i can mispell keel too
Have to search the data of the 410 A-3 and compare them with the 110 G-2.
The 410 was superior on anything compared to the 110, better climb, really faster, huge armament...it was something like a Mossi with heavy armor, 4 x 20mm and 2 x 30mm + a great bomb and rockets load and 2 x 13mm rear guns.
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Ok Furbie, you have me intrigued.
Which, what, where? Looks like a mark 2, but an upper turret?
The first few Beaufighter Is were delivered without the wing-mounted machine-guns, and initially it was found that when the cannon were fired, the recoil caused the nose to dip enough for the pilot to lose his target. The seriousness of this fault was such that thought was given to alternative armament and, with one pair of cannon and the wing-mounted machine-guns supplanted by a Boulton Paul turret containing four 0.303-in. guns and mounted just aft of the pilot's cockpit, the Beaufighter V was produced. Only two examples (R2274 and R2306) were completed, both being converted Merlin engined Mark IIs, and these were used experimentally by No. 29 Squadron during the early months of 1942, but the installation of the turret drastically reduced performance, and the Beaufighter V was abandoned.
:D
Check out the radar on it too.
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Have to search the data of the 410 A-3 and compare them with the 110 G-2.
The 410 was superior on anything compared to the 110, better climb, really faster, huge armament...it was something like a Mossi with heavy armor, 4 x 20mm and 2 x 30mm + a great bomb and rockets load and 2 x 13mm rear guns.
It was like a Mossie, except Spitfire Mk IXs were capable of running one down and killing it.
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a buefighter or a 410 is what we need the 410 has a biger bomb load able to cary 2 1000kg bombs
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a buefighter or a 410 is what we need the 410 has a biger bomb load able to cary 2 1000kg bombs
410 sexy.
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a buefighter or a 410 is what we need the 410 has a biger bomb load able to cary 2 1000kg bombs
Beaufighter could carry a torpedo :aok
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a buefighter or a 410 is what we need the 410 has a biger bomb load able to cary 2 1000kg bombs
LOL if it's ord you are worried about, then you'd better be a Beaufighter fan.
A wartime cartoon commenting on the ord load of the Beau by 44
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Beau.jpg)
And lets face it. The Beau just looks better then a 410 :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/TFmk10.jpg)
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great painting :aok
are those camera pods just outboard of the engines?
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I would love this plane.
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Furbie I'm guessing the radar install came on many of the mark 2's given their nightfighter role. Mark V eh. I stared at it awhile and it brought to mind the schrage musik installations. Must grab a beau book for the library soon.
rgds
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But it got such a small nose.
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And th view for the pilot is fantastic.
Operated in the ETO, MTO, PTO, CBI. The Aussies produced some of their own the USAAF had some. The Bampf Strike wing used them for antishipping raids. Lots of trips to Norway Had em at Malta, flying ground attack in North Africa. Fighting in Italy and over the Balkans. RAF Beaus all over Burma. RAAF Beaus all over the south pacific.I'd give`up my 38G to`start a Beaufighter`Squadron, either 127 RAF or 30 RAAF
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I'd give up my 38G to start a Beaufighter Squadron
blimey! :eek:
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holmes
They are air intakes for something ...cant remember right now
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And th view for the pilot is fantastic.
Operated in the ETO, MTO, PTO, CBI. The Aussies produced some of their own the USAAF had some. The Bampf Strike wing used them for antishipping raids. Lots of trips to Norway Had em at Malta, flying ground attack in North Africa. Fighting in Italy and over the Balkans. RAF Beaus all over Burma. RAAF Beaus all over the south pacific.I'd give`up my 38G to`start a Beaufighter`Squadron, either 127 RAF or 30 RAAF
don't be too sure until you fly it ;)
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don't be too sure until you fly it ;)
It isn't that pretty, it isn't fast, but it shouldn't be too bad of a turner and it sure could pack a punch :)
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it was called "whispering death" . The intakes were for oil radiators I believe. made in Bristol 60 miles from me. I would like to see the paul defiant in AH for a laugh too.
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A few hints have been tossed around since the Con Q & A session.
Biggest one that I see concerning planes like this is a "hard point" limit.
I'm not talking about the attachment points for bombs below a plane.
Well at least only in part. As I understand it there is a fixed limit of how many points a plane can have.
Each gun burns a point, each gunner position burns a point, each rocket or bomb burns a point.
With AH current limit the Beaufighter would be over that limit. Hence no Beaufighter.
From what I hear its one of the things HTC wants to spend time on fixing.
Which could in theory open up a whole bunch of new planes.
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the B17 has 12x .50 + 24x 100lb = 36 "hard points" so the Beau wouldn't even get close to the limit :confused:
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Just a thought on this plane if it was to be included in AHII & Seeing that it had a two man crew & that the pilot has no rear view at all. Would it fall under an attack/bomber roll or fighter/attack classification in the world of AHII. Or could we have a fighter/bomber then have the F3 view option Because of no rear view of the pilot?
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I am torn between my love for Luftwaffe iron and my patriotic duty to support the Beaufighter......
Ahhhhhhh the torment!
Mmmmmm. The Beaufighter would be a fantastic addition and I would love to see the Raw Prawns (and anyone else who wanted to) up a bunch of Beaus and stir up a ruckus in the MA!
We already have 'Aussies in Mossies' runs and they're great fun but the Beau would be a nice addition.
You'd have to jump over with us Lyric!