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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: LePaul on April 26, 2008, 07:05:25 PM
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100 yards from my home is a great RC field. Today it was very busy so me and the 9 year old headed out to watch the mini-airshow.
Well, now he's got the bug. He'd like to learn how. The guys there told us about many trainer packages out there online.
What's a good starter, ready to fly, gas plane to start with? I've seen bundles with a radio included but wondered if that would be a limiting factor if he opted to upgrade later?
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I also fly at a local field with ALOT of guys.
What you wanted is a 3 channel RTF,or ARF plane. I HIGHLY recommend getting a cub plane, gas engine or electric.
Make sure that if you are going to get electric get a brushless motor!. And concerning wings, you want wings that arent in the middle of plane, you want them on top. Having a large wingspan comes in handy too :salute
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There are a lot of very inexpensive electric “Almost Ready to Fly” RC planes available at Toys R Us, Target, etc. I’d start with one of these just because they are cheap and tough. It takes awhile to think 3D from the perspective of a little plane that you are looking at from various angles, and to look ahead, react to gusts, etc. Especially when you’re a little kid without much experience to draw from. Let him get used to a couple of these little $30 planes and then get him a real RC trainer.
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You might want to ask Bosco as well.
He flies some nice RC planes. :aok
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For your wallets sake...
Get a copy of Realfight (G3?) for your computer. It comes with a USB controller that's basically a 6+ channel radio. Get them used to flying the airplanes and let them get their early crashes out of their system (there will be a LOT) costing nothing more than bits of memory.
It's not cheap, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying new planes. There's never a day too windy or too rainy to fly as well.
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I can imagine the first flight now..... http://youtube.com/watch?v=OeTDaWf6fps
:D
actually I had a small electric one one I was very young. Apparently electric motors don't work well after water landings.
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http://www.hobby-lobby.com/beginners-rc.htm
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The gents there today really advised staying away from the electrics because they have such low flight times.
But for the price, I'd rather see that get augered in a few times versus something more expensive.
He's going to be 10 in a few weeks and he's really showing a great interest in it. At that age, we really want to encourage him to try it.
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http://www.hobby-lobby.com/telemaster.htm
These are the exact planes you would get for your son, i have the senior telemaster. :salute
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Is this how u land one? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86e_1209059157 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=86e_1209059157)
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My my....so while I get him one of those trainers...(Im leaning towards the Electro Trainer.... http://www.hobby-lobby.com/electrotrainer.htm )....I'm looking at that Ready To Fly F-18 :devil
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100 yards from my home is a great RC field. Today it was very busy so me and the 9 year old headed out to watch the mini-airshow.
Well, now he's got the bug. He'd like to learn how. The guys there told us about many trainer packages out there online.
What's a good starter, ready to fly, gas plane to start with? I've seen bundles with a radio included but wondered if that would be a limiting factor if he opted to upgrade later?
check this site out.
http://www.hobbico.com/airplanes/hcaa2020.html
this is a VERY good and versitile trainer plane. just make sure you get him on a buddy box to start though. it was the first plane i flew.....when i got bored with it, i threw a OS .46FX in it......made it a whole different plane.
now after 6 years, i have 10 planes ranging from a small electric F4u(alpha models) to a 80" 1.5 four stroke powered P51D.... three helicopters, two traxxas t-maxx's and an e-maxx. this isn't a hobby...it's an addiction...but a very good one. he's the perfect age to learn them too......have fun!!!!!!!
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There are a lot of very inexpensive electric “Almost Ready to Fly” RC planes available at Toys R Us, Target, etc. I’d start with one of these just because they are cheap and tough. It takes awhile to think 3D from the perspective of a little plane that you are looking at from various angles, and to look ahead, react to gusts, etc. Especially when you’re a little kid without much experience to draw from. Let him get used to a couple of these little $30 planes and then get him a real RC trainer.
they're cheap and tough...but don't fly worth a dam.....a buddy tried some of them.......then went and got a gas plane......hobbico makes one basicly ready to fly including radio for less then $250 i think
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For your wallets sake...
Get a copy of Realfight (G3?) for your computer. It comes with a USB controller that's basically a 6+ channel radio. Get them used to flying the airplanes and let them get their early crashes out of their system (there will be a LOT) costing nothing more than bits of memory.
It's not cheap, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying new planes. There's never a day too windy or too rainy to fly as well.
actually with the buddy box system, the early crashes come a lot later than you think. i had mine about 6 months after i first flew solo......i misjudged the tree line.....and hit it......but the plane survived.....hobbico makes some tough trainers
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I didn't have the option to use a buddy box. What I did have was lots of room to fly and enough money to buy what turned out to be 2 Hobbico trainers. One when I started and another after the first "high speed taxi" test went wrong resulting in flight on a windy (30mph sustained winds) day.
I invested in the second airframe, after all I had all the electronics, and a copy of Realflight. Best decision I ever made regarding R/C airplanes.
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My my....so while I get him one of those trainers...(Im leaning towards the Electro Trainer.... http://www.hobby-lobby.com/electrotrainer.htm )....I'm looking at that Ready To Fly F-18 :devil
I bought that one last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I also fly at a local field with ALOT of guys.
What you wanted is a 3 channel RTF,or ARF plane. I HIGHLY recommend getting a cub plane, gas engine or electric.
Cub is a taildragger..you want a tri-gear trainer for learning..eg Sig Cadet.
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You should do what my brother and I did when we were starting out. Buy this: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHCJ2&P=0 (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHCJ2&P=0).
It's 35 bucks, comes with a motor, and is just about indestructible (but stock up on extra props)... It'll fly for ~15 minutes per battery, so we would just charge up 4 or 5 and get a good hour of flying in. It's small and light enough that we had no problem flying in spaces that we wouldn't dream of taking our gas/balsa SIG 40 (anywhere that's not a true RC club field).
vv brother vv
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2cx18l.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/30my8ab.jpg)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/v6hted.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2nhl0t4.jpg)
hopefully that's not too heavy on the huge images...
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We're at a grass strip, would that be hard on trikes?
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You should do what my brother and I did when we were starting out. Buy this: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHCJ2&P=0 (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHCJ2&P=0).
It's 35 bucks, comes with a motor, and is just about indestructible (but stock up on extra props)... It'll fly for ~15 minutes per battery, so we would just charge up 4 or 5 and get a good hour of flying in. It's small and light enough that we had no problem flying in spaces that we wouldn't dream of taking our gas/balsa SIG 40 (anywhere that's not a true RC club field).
vv brother vv
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2cx18l.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/30my8ab.jpg)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/v6hted.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2nhl0t4.jpg)
hopefully that's not too heavy on the huge images...
That thing rules!
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Lepaul, I started in r/c when I was 10. My dad was flying r/c since its early days.
I have a few recommendations for you.
The local club probably has a training program for new pilots. Hook up with an instructor
that can be at the field the same day/time as you. They can inspect you plane and fly it
for you the first time out. Once it is trimmed out you should be able to get some stick time.
The Buddy box setup is good too.
Realflight,Realflight,Realflight and more realflight.
I prefer glow powered planes as there is quicker turnaround between flights. Just refuel and go.
Electrics have there advantages too tho ( I fly both )
Most hobbyshops (online or local) have a package deal for all you need to get started.
ie High wing trainer, engine, radio and accessories.
Enjoy ! :aok
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We're at a grass strip, would that be hard on trikes?
no it wouldn't......i have a world models T-34..it's a sport plane......i have a scale T-34, and i used to have a scale P-39,,,,,,,,all were fine on grass strip....
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thanks for the info
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Lepaul...a trike is much easier to point straight(nosewheel + rudder) on takeoff than a taildragger which has only rudder.
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I have been into R/C airplanes for 2 years now...I own 20 airplanes...I learned from the school of hard Knocks
Every one I own is electric.....the best starter plan in my opinion is Horizon hobby super cub.....its plug and play!!
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HBZ7100.....All you have to do is charge the battery
and off you go....it is a foam...you can crash it and glue it back together lots of times...and if you need parts they are
cheap.....Do your self a big favor and buy this plane..No other compares for the price...159.00 in the box ready to fly!!!
Do your self a big favor and do not get into gas right away.....buy this electic plane...buy a few batterys and have fun
Caution! this plane has to be flown it still air...on windy days forget it...5 mph or less
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I suggest a gas ARF (Almost Ready to Fly) Trainer as they have plenty of Dihedral which will help him learn to control the aircraft. This makes it more stable in flight.
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(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/lg-81059.jpg)
Super Cub
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/lg-83869.jpg)
Twin star
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/lg-83872.jpg)
Projeti
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/lg-81062.jpg)
Ezeglider
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Kaw1000,
Those look great!
Post pictures of them all.
How does that last sailplane type one fly?
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It flys great...again its a calm day flyer......I like to get it real high and turn motor off...then just glide it down.it
has folding props so when the motor stops, the props fold back for great aerodynamics!!
if you fly it right you can get a 30 min flight outta one lipo battery.....most Electric airplanes only last 10 min or so a
charge......I built 4 or 5 over the winter and haven't take pics yet I will soon!!
I will take a picture tonight of my latest build....its really big...its called a Honda biz jet!!
Alot of my planes are foam...so the are not real good in windy weather...I have a few that are good in Windy weather!
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I bought that one last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.hobby-lobby.com/electrotrainer.htm
I had one of these...with all due respect it is not a good plane..the fuse is like paper...one crash and its done.
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heres the twinstar flying at night...I rigged up some led lights, its a blast at night..just gotta be careful!!
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/thumb-Picture_015.jpg)
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I went to the local hobby shop the locals said was "Mecca" for R/C
Wow. Not only a ton of airplanes, but helicopters, cars and more servos and accessories than I could beleive.
(Bought 4 Futaba Servos for R2-D2...need to get the body panels to open/close)
We're looking at the Great Planes offerings. The glow/gas way to go sounds excellent (for me). We'll pick up a smaller electric for the soon-to-be-10 year old. If he likes it and even stays interested, he can move up from there.
They had the RC software (complete with RC type type controller) running. I flew a virtual P-51 around alright...but I sure parked a few F-86 ducted fans and turbines into the wilderness! Boy its hard to tell your flight profile when you blare away at Mach 3!
So I'm pretty excited about this. Come payday, Airplane Numero one comes home!
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Lepaul...You will get so addicted to this sport....I am always building on something....Everything I buy is arf....it still takes a while to build them..but I'm not talented
enough to build one from scratch....Have fun...one thing I do is get on r/c groups..type in the plane you are looking to buy and read reviews...its a great help!
also guys do all kinds of mods to make the plane better...sometimes its just little things that make a big difference!! <S>
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check this site out.
http://www.hobbico.com/airplanes/hcaa2020.html
this is a VERY good and versitile trainer plane. just make sure you get him on a buddy box to start though. it was the first plane i flew.....when i got bored with it, i threw a OS .46FX in it......made it a whole different plane.
now after 6 years, i have 10 planes ranging from a small electric F4u(alpha models) to a 80" 1.5 four stroke powered P51D.... three helicopters, two traxxas t-maxx's and an e-maxx. this isn't a hobby...it's an addiction...but a very good one. he's the perfect age to learn them too......have fun!!!!!!!
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You hit it right on the money CAP. IMHO that is the best trainer around, Nitro or eletric. I must tell you NEVER get the Hobbico Nextstar; they will be a waste of your time and money. When I started I had a homebuildt plane that was made with no: plans kits or wood. Flew fine until I pulled it inverted 5ft off the gound.
oh yea and just another thing, see if the club has its own trainer on standby, or a clubtrainer. That way if he dosen't like it, it won't be a waste of time and money. <S>
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oh yea, if you guys want to know what I fly:
Fiat G.55 86in. wingspan
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/image_667.jpg)
My pretty Hellcat 96in. wingspan
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/DSC_0087CROPPED.jpg)
P40(not mine) and a Spit(mine) both 92in. wingsapn
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/DSC00770.jpg)
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That thing rules!
Yeah, it's pretty awesome since you can throw it in the car, pull up, wrap some rubber bands around the wings and battery and be up in minutes. Our big, gas-powered plane is definitely fun too, but it's a pretty big PITA and is much, much more stressful with 400 bucks flying around up there. $35 is pretty hard to cry over... :)
No matter which way you go, LePaul, you're getting into a heck of a hobby... :aok
A few more pics:
the birds were actually chasing/flying around with the plane...
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2evamow.jpg)
had to dive outta the way right after this :)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2elqefa.jpg)
was it a great day for flying or what?:
(http://i25.tinypic.com/30dlahg.jpg)
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Sweet Bosco123 Very nice birds there!!! :aok
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Ok here's some more of my Birds......I think I went alittle over board..lol...dang this sport is is going to break me :rock
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2227.jpg)
Ihave not flown this yet...you have to bungie launch it...it should go around 110 mph
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2234.jpg)
This one is called a honda bizz jet....it is big for an electric I'm still working on this one!!
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2235.jpg)
This P-51 is a Miss America...It flys great! it has retracts!!
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2236.jpg)
This is a V-Diamond it is pretty fast around 70mph
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2237.jpg)
These are Strykers...they go about 50 to 60 mph...alot of fun to fly!
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c261/Kaw1000/122_2240.jpg)
This is a Aspera...I crashed 3 of these. it is a 3d type plane, it flops all over the sky goes around 70 mph!!
I have a few more along, with a few cx2 Helis.... Helis are very hard to fly I gave up on the big ones..the cx2's are
easy to fly.....I modify all my Birds with larger motors and different lipo batterys! Its a Blast!!
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Yes....this sport seems like a ton of fun.
Man just keeping an eye on the airplanes profile, so you steer it back at you takes some real grace!
Our field has a few hawks that have been known to attack RC planes. They usually LIKE the planes in the air as it makes the rabbits stop and look, making their hunting easier. But I know of 3 planes that have augered in from a hawk grabbing a wing.
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The Birds come every once in a while when I fly that Black Twinstar....I think because its big and black.
Awhile ago I started to chase them, it was too much fun...I came close to hitting a few.
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Sweet Bosco123 Very nice birds there!!! :aok
Thanks. Pretty much my pride and joy.
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oh yea, if you guys want to know what I fly:
Fiat G.55 86in. wingspan
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/image_667.jpg)
My pretty Hellcat 96in. wingspan
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/DSC_0087CROPPED.jpg)
P40(not mine) and a Spit(mine) both 92in. wingsapn
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/DSC00770.jpg)
ok..i'm jealous.........they're nicer than my pony..i have a p40 in the works though....have a nice extra300 though.....and of course my pride and joy......my raptor 50.....ooo...and can't forget.......my icepoint.....friggin thing's almost 8ft long
i'll try to get them assembled for pics.....
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Bosco123,
Those are just jaw-dropping stunning. Nice birds.
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Bosco123 one day when I become a better flyer I will have those show birds like you have...
I still get the heebbie jeebbies when I fly any of my birds!
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No flying lawn mowers?
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lol don't forget the flying street signs lol
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for your son id recomend a piper cub as well. here is how my dad tought me. you can get 2 radios and a cord that will connect both of them( a trainer cord). then the trainer takes the plane off, gets it all trimmed out and perfect to fly. get up high and make sure he doesnt go over the field. you can press a button that lets him take the stick. now when he starts getting out of control release the button and now you have the stick. (kinda like a drivers ed car if you will) tell him to fly in pylons and fly smooth. at half throttle. do this everytime you go out to fly and eventually he will get the hang of it.
a piper cub is great because its very slow and easy to fly. plus it flys great i have one. if you dont fly id recomend a trainer to help you son learn.
my dad tought me on a astrohog that we built together, damn i miss that bird. i crashed it after a bee bit me :(
dont get a electric plane. they are boring and nothing like gas planes. all though electric are WAY cheaper. they just dont do anything. 10 is a prefect age to learn tho.
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Electric Planes are boring?? look at my pervious post, is 50 to 110 mph boring??
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oh yea, if you guys want to know what I fly:
My pretty Hellcat 96in. wingspan
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh198/mniezelski/DSC_0087CROPPED.jpg)
Hellcat? Whoa!!!..How in devil's name did you get/make the retracts?