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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: C(Sea)Bass on April 26, 2008, 09:01:49 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_bi_ge/bad_gas_pumps;_ylt=AoS6NWsEwh_sjmNbS3JkCXuyBhIF
Great. Just because of poor maintence we have to pay even more for gas. How wonderful.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_bi_ge/bad_gas_pumps;_ylt=AoS6NWsEwh_sjmNbS3JkCXuyBhIF
Great. Just because of poor maintence we have to pay even more for gas. How wonderful.
i hate the gas prices where i live. Its never gone this high where i live ($3.60 a gallon). It sucks how the gas companies are charging us this much for gas. And when i was on vacation in California, it was around $4 a gallon. :furious
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Last I saw we were at $1.55/litre :O
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Last I saw we were at $1.55/litre :O
whats a litre? :confused:
;)
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1 gallon = 3.785411784 litres
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CBass are you not a student? You should know these conversions. at least a rough proximation.
Boy our education system at work. :(
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I know the conversions pretty well. I was trying to make a joke about Americans, hence the ;), in my post. Its just hard to display these things on the web.
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Oh I see. my bad. :o
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hehe Bass, I saw the wink, I just posted it for those that didn't know.
BTW I saw prices in parts of the UK are up at £6/Gallon! That's like $15/gallon in our money!
Any Poms about that can confirm this?
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1 gallon = 3.785411784 litres
That is an American gallon. An Imperial gallon is 4.55 litres.
We are paying~$1.20 a litre which is $5.46 a gallon.
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I thought you saw this at one of my local stations.
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Altho the story says it is hard to jimmy the meters, that is false. Most pumps are now electronicly metered and it is very simple to recalibrate the meter from inside the manager's office. VERY easy. Also, most people don't realise that the "pump" isn't a pump at all. It is just a big meter with a display. The actual pump is submerged in the underground tank.
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I put 10 gallons of "Premium" in my tank, hit the right button and paid the price for it too. Only it was regular 89 :furious :mad: :mad:
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The real sucky thing is I can fill up with premium cheaper than I can fill up with diesel.
What is up with that!
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The truck get damn near the same mileage as the mustang. Now it is cheaper to drive the stang, because the price of diesel is thirty cents more a gallon here in the great state of Commiefornia.
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Yep, I can confirm the cost of gas in the UK is...dun dun derrrrrrrr - a mighty £1.08 per litre, which works out
at £4.91 per gallon (which, using the conversion rate of 2-1 is approx $9.82 per (UK) gallon - which is nice......errrr...not.
Mind you, 86% of that is tax - which we have the privilige of paying this shower of rubbish known as the Government.
Wurzel
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its an outrage!
Now the oil workers are so cheesed that their companies are making 13 bizzillion $$$£££'s a year they have gone on strike.
So now people are buying more, in a frenzied fear the supply will run out, earning more profit for these scoundrels.
:furious :mad:
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The real sucky thing is I can fill up with premium cheaper than I can fill up with diesel.
What is up with that!
I'll tell you what's up with that. 18 wheelers don't use gasoline, they use diesel. EVERYTHING in this country is shipped by trucks that burn diesel. We are addicted to diesel worse than our addiction to gasoline. Heroin vs Crack.
There is a rumor JB Hunt Transportation is going to go out of business. They are the largest and cheapest trucking company in the US. They are the WalMart of transportation. If JB Hunt goes under things will get very ugly, very fast.
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What about B.J. McKay?
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Now the oil workers are so cheesed that their companies are making 13 bizzillion $$$£££'s a year they have gone on strike.
Actually what they are striking over is the closure of their final salary pension scheme to new members. The scheme is being closed, like so many others, because Gordon Brown imposed a £5 billion a year tax on them. So this is something else you can pin on the government.
So now people are buying more, in a frenzied fear the supply will run out, earning more profit for these scoundrels.
The scoundrels responsible for fuel prices in the UK are the government.
With petrol at £1.08 per litre, the government takes 50.35p per litre in fuel duty and 16p in VAT. That means for every litre you buy the government takes 66.35p directly. The retailer and oil company get less than 42p, out of which they also pay taxes to the government.
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there is a dated inspection sticker on the "pump", so you can see when it was last inspected.
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A big flap in the trucking industry is "HOT" fuel. Since diesel tanks are refilled almost constantly at your major truckstops the fuel comes out of the plant, into the tanker, and straight to the site. Due to production methods it is very warm/hot and has expanded and takes quite a long time to cool to the measured amount mandated for proper calibration by the metered pumps. What this means is you pay for 1 gallon, the pump gives you 1 gallon but the actual amount once the fuel cools is less. Someone could do the research and find some articles to post about this i'm sure. There is a fairly easy mod that could be done to the pumps to give you the correct amount but the oil companies are fighting it tooth and nail saying it's to costly! :huh This from an industry that's making billions in profits every quarter. :furious
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I heard something on the radio that gives me a new perspective. They said that if you adjusted for the rates of inflation, we are paying now for a gallon of gas about what we were paying in 1980. Don't know about the math but if its true its definietly something to think about.
I think maybe we went thru a period where gas prices were ridicuosly low and that has promoted poor consumption choices (i.e. SUV, Hummers, monster trucks).
Disclaimer: I drive a 6 cyl Toyota Tocohma. Not the worst milage ever, but certainly not the best. :) So I guess I'm guilty too.
However, that said, I do think the price of gas is artificially high right now due to excessive speculation. There is no supply shortage.
-Wab
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I know this won't help but, I wrote one of my senators in Virginia (Senator Warner) a letter about gas prices.In the letter I pointed out that he had sent me a glowing letter about how the government was doing this and doing that about gas prices.I have not seen Warners reality at the pump so I disrespectfully told him to "KISS MY GAS!" :devil
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whats a litre? :confused:
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a litre of cola?
:rofl
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Diesel is more than gasoline for several reasons:
Diesel is more expensive to produce
Demand for diesel and similar fuel oils is up even more than for gasoline.
Federal taxes are higher for diesel
Transition to low-sulphur diesel has slowed down refinery supply
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Why exactly is diesel more expensive to produce than gasoline, is it not less refined than gasoline?
Or is it more expensive to produce now because there is more demand for it?
Diesel use to always be considerably less expensive than gasoline until more people started driving diesel powered vehicles.
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Why exactly is diesel more expensive to produce than gasoline, is it not less refined than gasoline?
Not anymore. It's now required to have less sulphur than gas. (15 ppm compared to 30 ppm I think) Refining is a bit different for the 2 so it's probably not accurate to really compare, but you get the idea.
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Actually right and wrong. Diesel is still cheaper in the initial form to produce than gas, however due to the low sulphur laws now it has to undergo more refining to take out the extra sulphur, thus it costs more to produce. Look at it as the difference between summer fuel and winter fuel for gasoline. What we need is a national standard of fuel blends to be used in all states all year round. Once that happens you will see prices stabilize if not drop. If we actually got a world standard of blends were everyone used the same blend you would see prices drop even more. I'm thinking of buying a horse but then the politicians will tax grass. No i don't mean pot either. :D
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told you guys more than a year ago that the new EP frigging A low sulphur restrictions were gonna make diesel more expensive than gas.
lazs
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There is a rumor JB Hunt Transportation is going to go out of business. They are the largest and cheapest trucking company in the US. They are the WalMart of transportation. If JB Hunt goes under things will get very ugly, very fast.
That would be bad.....who is next? Swift?
:(
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I know about the low sulpher fuel. I own a diesel pickup and the subject has been hotly debated on some of the forums I belong too for some time now.
The only problem I have with that argument is that the prices of diesel started to rise above that of gasoline before the low sulpher fuel was implemented, here at least.
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I've been running diesel from truck stops for over 4 years now. I just bought fuel today, 97 gallons at $3.99 a gallon. I have to say that I have not bought "hot" fuel at any time. The tanks are underground at Flying J's. The fuel I purchased today was far far colder than the ambient temperature of about 80 degrees. I have yet to buy fuel that is as warm as the outside temperature in the summertime.
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That's because no one fuels at flying J's. :lol You couldn't make me fuel in a flying J unless i was flat out of fuel. 97 gallons isn't a good indicator either as your drawing from the bottom of the tank. You probably got lucky but for a true indication you need to get a thermometer that will go in your tank, fill your tank and then wait about 5 min. Read the temp and then start recording it at every stop. 97 gallons is a drop in the bucket, when i fill up i take between 200 and 250 gallons every time. A proper fuel tank system should deliver fuel below the ambient temp. as it's stored below ground. A good rule of thumb is if you have let it across your fingers and it feels like warm pee it's "hot" fuel and your being ripped off. Maybe you got lucky, then again maybe you were sucking the bottom of there tanks and your fuel filters going to clog soon. :O