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Title: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: bg108 on April 27, 2008, 05:54:12 PM
 well, i like the new carrier design, it looks nice. however, who came up with the screwy idea of the elevator being in the deck :huh? i was trying to fly larger aircraft off the cv offline, so i have not even tried to land yet, which i can do upside down sleeping. however, when i tried to take off, THE D-MN ELEVATOR GOT IN THE WAY!!! of course, no when i take off, i have to reverse all the way back, and on all bombers, i now have to use full aileron left to clear it, and i can no longer take off lancs, so i can imagine it must be hard for the noobs who try to land carrier-base aircraft and nose into the elevator and break off the wing and slide any kills they got into the drink. who designed the cv? i would love to see that elevator gone.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Spikes on April 27, 2008, 06:08:26 PM
bg108 I can take any aircraft off a CV (with exception of 163) even the large bombers. What "large plane" were you trying to get off?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Captfish on April 27, 2008, 06:09:57 PM
I may be wrong but I think they were going for realism....taking lancs off the CV was prob not one of the concerns they had when rendering the new CV.
... I think the whole new fleet looks great Keep the upgrades coming! :aok
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Simaril on April 27, 2008, 06:49:38 PM
I may be wrong but I think they were going for realism....taking lancs off the CV was prob not one of the concerns they had when rendering the new CV.

Quoted for truth
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: hubsonfire on April 27, 2008, 06:53:31 PM
So, basically, the new fleet sucks because its hard to launch heavy bombers offline?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: DEAR98 on April 27, 2008, 08:26:31 PM
Ture. I not saying its never happend but I've never seen a Lanc come off a CV in clips or pics have you?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Raptor on April 28, 2008, 01:57:27 AM
In all fairness. Would the aircraft elevator really be lowered (as it currently is) if aircraft were taking off?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Strip on April 28, 2008, 02:43:01 AM
No....

Strip
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Rich46yo on April 28, 2008, 05:29:46 AM
I want to know who came up with the screwie idea to model allowable landings of heavy bombers onto CVs in the first place. Or for that matter any airplane that couldnt do it in reality? Why is it allowed in the game?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Yknurd on April 28, 2008, 06:33:48 AM
I want to know who came up with the screwy idea that if you get shot down and die you can reup with a new plane and aren't really dead.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Jackal1 on April 28, 2008, 07:28:37 AM
I want to know who came up with the screwy idea that if you get shot down and die you can reup with a new plane and aren't really dead.

I`m not sure, but it`s one of my favorite features of the game. ;)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: MajIssue on April 28, 2008, 10:11:29 AM
I want to know who came up with the screwie idea to model allowable landings of heavy bombers onto CVs in the first place. Or for that matter any airplane that couldnt do it in reality? Why is it allowed in the game?

Only off-line rich... B-25c is the only buff (actuall a light bomber in the RW) that will launch from a Cv in the current incarnation of AH2... to my knowledge!
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: bg108 on April 28, 2008, 10:19:04 AM
maybe you haven't launched off the cv in a 24 or lanc lately. to launch, i now have to reverse to the back of the ship, full flaps and engines, and FLOAT THE WHEEL OVER THE ELEVATOR SHAFT!!! :O!!! then, of course, the whole plane slows down, and it stalls off the pad. if you dont do this right, you lose a wing on the conning tower, lose a wing in the shaft of the elevator, just trust me, it's a pain.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Shuffler on April 28, 2008, 10:27:30 AM
163 can takeoff too.........
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: sunfan1121 on April 28, 2008, 10:44:49 AM
MeH can Do tEh flInG o0F caREarerz, liek bEN aaafLaK!
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: waystin2 on April 28, 2008, 12:09:22 PM
maybe you haven't launched off the cv in a 24 or lanc lately. to launch, i now have to reverse to the back of the ship, full flaps and engines, and FLOAT THE WHEEL OVER THE ELEVATOR SHAFT!!! :O!!! then, of course, the whole plane slows down, and it stalls off the pad. if you dont do this right, you lose a wing on the conning tower, lose a wing in the shaft of the elevator, just trust me, it's a pain.

Take off at an airfield then bg108.  Carriers are great HTC!  :aok  Nothing to fix here.

Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Rino on April 28, 2008, 12:41:40 PM
     I believe the real Essex class had elevators in the flightdeck, not off the side..so count yourself lucky  :D

oops, I was half right..some on the side and some in the deck...

(http://www.steelnavy.com/images/essex/Titleshot.jpg)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Shuffler on April 28, 2008, 12:50:23 PM
MeH can Do tEh flInG o0F caREarerz, liek bEN aaafLaK!

Does he own an insurance company????
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Yknurd on April 28, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
well, i like the new carrier design, it looks nice. however, who came up with the screwy idea of the elevator being in the deck :huh? i was trying to fly larger aircraft off the cv offline, so i have not even tried to land yet, which i can do upside down sleeping. however, when i tried to take off, THE D-MN ELEVATOR GOT IN THE WAY!!! of course, no when i take off, i have to reverse all the way back, and on all bombers, i now have to use full aileron left to clear it, and i can no longer take off lancs, so i can imagine it must be hard for the noobs who try to land carrier-base aircraft and nose into the elevator and break off the wing and slide any kills they got into the drink. who designed the cv? i would love to see that elevator gone.

That's like complaining masturbation is no longer fun after you started dating a porn star! :rock
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: RATTFINK on April 28, 2008, 02:46:33 PM
To  Bq(@^,

Keep your bombers off my carrier.  That is all.

------------------------------- -

I LOVE the new carriers and their design.  What I would like to see, is a carrier that is affected by the ocean.  Make the CV something a land lover lose his cookies over :D  Oh, yes… a LSO too :)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: DEAR98 on April 28, 2008, 08:06:53 PM
Not to be mean but a few "Battle 360"said that,"you landed on the front to put in the hanger decks and be repaired and brought up in the back.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Torcher on April 29, 2008, 08:59:38 AM
Okay, so what is holding up this plane? :huh

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b197/TonyRockyhorror/carrierplane.jpg)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Hitman20 on April 29, 2008, 10:47:05 AM
Okay, so what is holding up this plane? :huh

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b197/TonyRockyhorror/carrierplane.jpg)

Air?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Captfish on April 29, 2008, 11:45:30 AM
its one of those hover-Kats! :O
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: RATTFINK on April 29, 2008, 01:11:20 PM
The arrow... DUH!!
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Yknurd on April 29, 2008, 01:24:01 PM
Okay, so what is holding up this plane? :huh

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b197/TonyRockyhorror/carrierplane.jpg)

It's lag.

The pilot's FE shows him on the carrier.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: bg108 on January 21, 2009, 06:32:15 PM
Take off at an airfield then bg108.  Carriers are great HTC!  :aok  Nothing to fix here.



no, you try sinking a cv with one of your puny, pathetic tbm's. 1 bombload on a cv distracted by a wasp nest of smaller planes is going to sink the cv.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: moot on January 21, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
The thread was 8 months old.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: FiLtH on January 21, 2009, 06:47:21 PM
   Its fun flying a B5N into the hangar deck
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Spikes on January 21, 2009, 06:49:53 PM
no, you try sinking a cv with one of your puny, pathetic tbm's. 1 bombload on a cv distracted by a wasp nest of smaller planes is going to sink the cv.
For the record...the TBM carries a 2000lb max bomb load. It takes (myth) 12K to kill a CV.

IN.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: ImADot on January 21, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Here's yet another shining example for the need of an auto-lock of stale threads.
 :(
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: uptown on January 21, 2009, 07:03:58 PM
somebody ping that dork already  :furious
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: bg108 on January 21, 2009, 09:59:25 PM
For the record...the TBM carries a 2000lb max bomb load. It takes (myth) 12K to kill a CV.

IN.

14k's in a lanc. so in 1 aircraft, i can, effectively, place down as much ordinance as 7 of your tbms. no 6-flight squadrons, and lancs carry a pair of 50's in the rear, and 30's in the front and top.

and what's a ping?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: The Fugitive on January 22, 2009, 08:22:55 AM
14k's in a lanc. so in 1 aircraft, i can, effectively, place down as much ordinance as 7 of your tbms. no 6-flight squadrons, and lancs carry a pair of 50's in the rear, and 30's in the front and top.

and what's a ping?

and I suppose you can hit a cv from 15k everytime too..... oh wait, your one of those dive bombing lancs right?
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 08:28:00 AM
well, i like the new carrier design, it looks nice. however, who came up with the screwy idea of the elevator being in the deck :huh? i was trying to fly larger aircraft off the cv offline, so i have not even tried to land yet, which i can do upside down sleeping. however, when i tried to take off, THE D-MN ELEVATOR GOT IN THE WAY!!! of course, no when i take off, i have to reverse all the way back, and on all bombers, i now have to use full aileron left to clear it, and i can no longer take off lancs, so i can imagine it must be hard for the noobs who try to land carrier-base aircraft and nose into the elevator and break off the wing and slide any kills they got into the drink. who designed the cv? i would love to see that elevator gone.

you must be one of those uber pile-its. you can steer your plane with aielron while it's on the deck?

and just an FYI? there is absolutley no problem flying aircraft off the carriers.

oo...and for landing, there's this funny lil thing called an arrestor hook. use it. no problems landing either.

and finally......nice bait....ya caught quite a few....... :rofl
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Lusche on January 22, 2009, 08:30:42 AM
(http://www.freewebs.com/cortlesteeze/pix/ThreadNecro.jpg)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 08:30:55 AM
I want to know who came up with the screwy idea that if you get shot down and die you can reup with a new plane and aren't really dead.

 :rofl :aok :rofl
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 08:32:49 AM
maybe you haven't launched off the cv in a 24 or lanc lately. to launch, i now have to reverse to the back of the ship, full flaps and engines, and FLOAT THE WHEEL OVER THE ELEVATOR SHAFT!!! :O!!! then, of course, the whole plane slows down, and it stalls off the pad. if you dont do this right, you lose a wing on the conning tower, lose a wing in the shaft of the elevator, just trust me, it's a pain.
full flaps in any of our aircraft will create much more drag, than they will lift. when you spawn, you're already at the back of the carrier.

 :cry
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Lusche on January 22, 2009, 08:33:24 AM
:rofl :aok :rofl

Cap... you are "replying" to postings almost one year old...
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 08:36:39 AM
Cap... you are "replying" to postings almost one year old...


yaknow,....i didn't see that right away............<slapping self in forehead>
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: ImADot on January 22, 2009, 08:45:59 AM
yaknow,....i didn't see that right away............<slapping self in forehead>

... promptly banging my head on the wall, in a vain attempt to knock sernse into myseklf


Dude, you gotta seek help for your obvious problem of self-abuse.   :lol
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 09:56:29 AM

Dude, you gotta seek help for your obvious problem of self-abuse.   :lol


well, i haven't been in the arenas too much to get my share of abuse, so i need to do these things.

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: bg108 on January 22, 2009, 10:26:37 AM
full flaps in any of our aircraft will create much more drag, than they will lift. when you spawn, you're already at the back of the carrier.

 :cry

unfortunately, no. you spawn about 5' foreward of the arrestor cables. and the flaps arent much of an option. i tried without flaps. ailerons dont put out enough lift without em
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: stodd on January 22, 2009, 10:30:46 AM
<<<Waiting for the PNG stick to come down on bg108. ;)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 10:41:03 AM
unfortunately, no. you spawn about 5' foreward of the arrestor cables. and the flaps arent much of an option. i tried without flaps. ailerons dont put out enough lift without em

dude....do you know how an airplane flys?

your ailerons don't produce lift. your flaps do, for about the first 20 degrees. after 20 degrees, they produce more drag.
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: Murdr on January 22, 2009, 10:43:29 AM
Skuzzy missed this one when he was handing out Rule #10s  :)
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: waystin2 on January 22, 2009, 11:23:43 AM
See Rule #2
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 11:32:17 AM
First of all I am IN...

Second...
(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm134/waystin2/NecroBumpBatman.jpg)

think batman had a wee accident.....and is trying to cover it up.  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: macleod01 on January 22, 2009, 01:20:39 PM
Personally I think thats the bump Robins refering to...
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: CAP1 on January 22, 2009, 01:33:16 PM
Personally I think thats the bump Robins refering to...
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: new carriers-pain in the :O
Post by: waystin2 on January 22, 2009, 02:11:15 PM
A couple of comedians huh?  Why I oughta.... :rofl