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Title: ww2 tank battles
Post by: crockett on April 29, 2008, 10:46:07 AM
What were the major ww2 tank battles? I'm doing some research for a project I'm working on and trying to find out all the major tank battles.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: Hitman20 on April 29, 2008, 10:48:25 AM
USSR and Germany probably had a lot of tank battles.

UK might have had a few.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: Oleg on April 29, 2008, 11:13:24 AM
Largest tank battle was Battle of Prokhorovka.

Try http://www.battlefield.ru/content/section/10/88/lang,en/ , there are some articles about tanks battles.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: Carwash on April 29, 2008, 11:50:07 AM
I'm certainly no authority, but I thought Kursk was the biggest tank battle.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: Squire on April 29, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
Kursk was a campaign, that included several of the largest tank battles, including Prokhorovka. German vs Russian, July 1943. So Kursk and Prokhorovka are reffering to the same thing.

In the West, El Alemain (N. Africa 1942), Normandy campaign 1944 (not just D-Day), and the Ardennes, 1944 would be three to look at.

Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: SirLoin on April 29, 2008, 12:25:32 PM
Also interesting to note that the Germans had inferior tanks vs the Allies until late 1942 early 1943.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: crockett on April 29, 2008, 12:28:54 PM
Kursk was a campaign, that included several of the largest tank battles, including Prokhorovka. German vs Russian, July 1943. So Kursk and Prokhorovka are reffering to the same thing.

In the West, El Alemain (N. Africa 1942), Normandy campaign 1944 (not just D-Day), and the Ardennes, 1944 would be three to look at.



yea those were the one's I was thinking of, but wasn't sure if there were any other major battles.

Thanks 4 the replies everyone.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: ROX on April 29, 2008, 01:46:35 PM
Kursk was the biggest.  El Alamein was pretty big.

Many tank battles in North Africa were so spread out they resembled naval engagements.  North Africa was also one of the first places the Axis used 88 AAA guns on tanks with devestating results.

There are some rare b/w films (mainly shot from tank slits) of the tank battle of Kursk.  Amazing!



ROX
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: NoBaddy on April 29, 2008, 01:49:47 PM
North Africa was also one of the first places the Axis used 88 AAA guns on tanks with devestating results.

Actually, they were using the 88 as an AT weapon in Poland.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: TheBug on April 29, 2008, 03:09:57 PM
Actually, they were using the 88 as an AT weapon in Poland.

Condor Legion tested it in an AT role in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: NoBaddy on April 29, 2008, 03:18:07 PM
Condor Legion tested it in an AT role in 1936, during the Spanish Civil War.

ROIT! Wasn't sure about Spain. But, I did know about Poland..for sure. :)
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: crockett on April 29, 2008, 04:03:36 PM
Kursk was the biggest.  El Alamein was pretty big.

Many tank battles in North Africa were so spread out they resembled naval engagements.  North Africa was also one of the first places the Axis used 88 AAA guns on tanks with devestating results.

There are some rare b/w films (mainly shot from tank slits) of the tank battle of Kursk.  Amazing!



ROX

Yea I found quite a few films on youtube with lots of footage from Kursk.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: GFShill on April 29, 2008, 07:03:43 PM
What were the major ww2 tank battles? I'm doing some research for a project I'm working on and trying to find out all the major tank battles.

The battle for the cathedral at Cologne.  One German Panzer makes a last stand.

http://www.anicursor.com/colpicwar2.html (http://www.anicursor.com/colpicwar2.html)

See the video at 3rd Armored Division home page:

http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/bates.index.htm (http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/bates.index.htm)

After that, you'll have a new appreciation for the spam in the can.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: crockett on April 29, 2008, 09:44:06 PM
The battle for the cathedral at Cologne.  One German Panzer makes a last stand.

http://www.anicursor.com/colpicwar2.html (http://www.anicursor.com/colpicwar2.html)

See the video at 3rd Armored Division home page:

http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/bates.index.htm (http://www.3ad.com/history/wwll/feature.pages/bates.index.htm)

After that, you'll have a new appreciation for the spam in the can.

One of the videos I watched about the Kursk campaign, talked about a Tiger that was hit 200 times by T34's and still managed to drive off for 40 miles with damaged track rollers.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: Tango on April 29, 2008, 10:44:13 PM
Actually, they were using the 88 as an AT weapon in Poland.

They used them in France as well, since the Char was the king of the battle field at that time. of course the French screwed up by spreading thier armor all over the place.
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: hedbang on April 29, 2008, 11:01:49 PM
I guess I can't think of a specific battle off hand, but I'd check into Operation Cobra.  I believe that involved the allied breakout after Normandy.  Thats when the more open terrain allowed the newly arrived, large amounts of allied armor to maneuver, therefore creating large tank to tank engagements.  While the eastern front is known for massive numbers, I think this setting of WW2 is often overlooked when thinking of armor battles.

HeadBang
Title: Re: ww2 tank battles
Post by: zarkov on April 29, 2008, 11:37:21 PM
the French screwed up by spreading thier armor all over the place.

Actually, they didn't.

There's a lot of incorrect information about what the French did and did not do during the Battle of France.  There was a big discussion about the Battle of France spread out over several posts over at consimworld.