Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on April 29, 2008, 01:59:50 PM
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So this is where all the *%@# in the school books comes from...............
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/04/29/new-york-times-attacking-textbook-makers-veiled-attack-on-capitalism/
maybe these people that are putting all the political stuff in the books should be removed or replaced and someone MORE interested in making sure our children actually LEARN reading, writing, and arithmetic and such should replace em?
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my health class book is 33 years old :aok
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my health class book is 33 years old :aok
So your one of lucky ones. Your health class has books. Mine never did. Our history books ended when Nixon was still in office.
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the answer is......
Vouchers
lazs
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This has nothing to do with vouchers Lazs.
I personally stopped buying my textbooks years back.
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beg to differ.. it most certainly does have to do with vouchers.. a catholic school will give you a good education no matter what, or how old, the books are.
lazs
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beg to differ.. it most certainly does have to do with vouchers.. a catholic school will give you a good education no matter what, or how old, the books are.
lazs
No, I got into Catholic University, and they used the same textbooks we did at George Washington.
-Sik
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how does that contradict what I said? Some catholic schools have outdated books... some don't.. same for public schools.. Catholics just make it work no matter what the tools.
lazs
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how does that contradict what I said? Some catholic schools have outdated books... some don't.. same for public schools.. Catholics just make it work no matter what the tools.
lazs
Lazs,
The story was about over-priced college textbooks. I'm not sure how the voucher debate plays into that.
-Sik
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OH yeah and today we learned about STD's in health class and oral sex. WHOOOOPEEEE :frown:
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OH yeah and today we learned about STD's in health class and oral sex. WHOOOOPEEEE :frown:
OK...what you've basically just done is just thrown this baby seal to Laz...
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/shark191106_468x397.jpg)
Let the frenzy begin!
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OK...what you've basically just done is just thrown this baby seal to Laz...
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/11/shark191106_468x397.jpg)
Let the frenzy begin!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Never could understand how text books cost 100s for each class taken. Dont see how the books are any better then similar ones at borders for 30-40
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Lazs,
The story was about over-priced college textbooks. I'm not sure how the voucher debate plays into that.
-Sik
Actually IIRC the story is NOT so much about overpriced textbooks but who is deciding what is being put in them.
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Actually IIRC the story is NOT so much about overpriced textbooks but who is deciding what is being put in them.
I must not be able to read so well. It really seemed about overpriced books and how best to deal with them.
-Sik
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When I was going for my masters, I found easily half the textbooks I bought we just worthless as any kind of study aide. So I stopped buying them and still aced the classes.
Now my meteorology and astronomy books, those I still read (informative and interesting).
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Both Congress and that writers of the article have a lot to learn.
- My department doesn't have a board that gets lavished with millions of $$ to make decisions on what books to choose. I walk over to the university book store, tell them what book I want and that's it. I had a sales rep come by my office two weeks ago. He asked what I like about the book I'm using and what I wish I had in an ideal book. I might get a copy to preview next year. Many schools (and teaching hospitals) are starting to establish strict policies on "wining and dining". At Stanford, you cannot even accept a ball point pen with a company's logo on it. Zero gifts allowed.
- I'm not sure what the point of having "free market" in the classroom is? In a class of 200 people...do you want every student choosing the book they think is the best value and then the teacher has to decide what homework problems to assign? Or what order to teach the topics in?
- Most of the cost comes about when the printing companies decide to issue "a new and updated version". They do this b/c the market is already saturated with old/used books and they need more $$$. No problem with this, I understand they have to stay in business. Eventually it does become a problem for the department/bookstore to get copies of the older version and you have to make the switch.
- The university author is not a problem like described in the article. The "books" are usually just photocopies stapled together. Really this is the cheapest way to put together a course packet that has exactly what the instructor wants and usually costs only about $20.
- I'm not sure why Congress is involved. This is something a university or high school could solve on it's own and really help to sell itself by looking after the students.