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Title: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 01, 2008, 08:50:56 PM
To whomever..
          I have noticed when attacking the T34 with the B-25H's main gun its jut about in impossible to get a kill. Every other type of GV I can kill with only 1-2 shots and have blasted quite a few Tigers with just a single shot. After putting 6-8 rounds in many T34s I have yet to see more than a track damaged. Even the tracks soak up many rounds compared to all the other gv's. I realize the HE rounds are not very efficent at killing gvs. However given what has happened with other tanks I dont see what makes the T34 so hard to kill. After attacking from every angle (and failing) I usually pass T34s up. Usually get the kill if someone bombs them or a tank fires some AP but cant finish them off myself.

Anyone have similar issues? Is it just me?

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 08:54:24 PM
Hit em between 1st and 2nd bogie wheel, drivers side.

Dangerous because you need to be low and he can shoot back.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Lusche on June 01, 2008, 08:55:37 PM
T34 has pretty good allround armor. If I remember right it has better rear & top deck armor than the other tanks. I'll see if i can dig up the numbers...
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 01, 2008, 08:56:36 PM
Stupid question (maybe)...

Which is the drivers side? I thought they sat in the middle!

 :lol

Thanks Lusche!

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 08:58:29 PM
Stupid question (maybe)...

Which is the drivers side? I thought they sat in the middle!

 :lol

Thanks Lusche!

Strip
Closer to the left side. Remember they have a hull gun? :P
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 01, 2008, 09:01:03 PM
 :uhoh

And here I thought I might know a thing or too....

 :D

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 09:02:20 PM
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/here.jpg)
just below the track.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 01, 2008, 09:06:01 PM
So I take using this method you dont have many problems killing T34s?

Thanks for the graphic BTW.  :salute

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
I've done it. Problems are many though. Like I said to hit and kill you have to be low and close. He can get his main gun on you. Not to mention trees hills and those pesky fighters.

Best to try off line to practice.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 01, 2008, 09:11:25 PM
Its the Wirbles that drive me nuts.....I dont even try with them any more.

I usually am dead before I get within 1k.   :rofl

(With the 25H anyway)

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 09:13:17 PM

I'll only go after WW if i'm in an IL-2, and with help.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: moot on June 02, 2008, 04:16:13 AM
Softest spot I've found is the flat area in the rear.  I haven't really paid attention to it to be 100% sure, but from memory, every shot I've landed there, at 45deg or more, has give me a kill.  I usualy shoot at 300mph or so - dunno if that matters.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Nilsen on June 02, 2008, 05:23:33 AM
This is the reason why i love driving the T34 straight to the enemy field. Take out VH first and you pretty much own the field as the Hurrs, ILs and B25s have a hard time killing it unlike the Panzer, tiger and M4s . Vulching in T34 is very entertaining  :)
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2008, 10:51:45 AM
Like moot sait the back-top. Come in at about 45 degree and its a one shot kill every time. I find it easy to kill the T34 because that shot is so big and its flat.



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/T3476.jpg)
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: DPQ5 on June 02, 2008, 09:53:26 PM
You know you could carry a couple of 500lbers to deal with those pesky t34s, well at least thats what I do.
 :aok
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 02, 2008, 10:05:44 PM
B-25H is the best option when ordnance and VH is down.

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: DPQ5 on June 02, 2008, 10:10:38 PM
B-25H is the best option when ordnance and VH is down.

Strip

Thats true, cant seem to do anything with a il2 except make the enemy mad and make them shoot at me.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2008, 11:17:34 PM
The B25 is the only anti tank plane I use. The Il2 and Hurri2D are useless since the wirbles were added. The B25s melon tosser can pop thier turrets before they can get a shot on you and its the only one that can kill any GV with one shot.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Karnak on June 03, 2008, 12:28:39 AM
They should add the Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII with the 57mm Mollins gun.  AP ammo and a higher muzzle velocity.

If the Il-2 and Hurricane Mk IID have been rendered useless we need another aircraft that is effective just for variety.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Bronk on June 03, 2008, 04:47:59 AM
They should add the Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII with the 57mm Mollins gun.  AP ammo and a higher muzzle velocity.

If the Il-2 and Hurricane Mk IID have been rendered useless we need another aircraft that is effective just for variety.

The B25 is the only anti tank plane I use. The Il2 and Hurri2D are useless since the wirbles were added. The B25s melon tosser can pop thier turrets before they can get a shot on you and its the only one that can kill any GV with one shot.

1. Useless? Erm no They still have uses. I've flown a Hurri to a camped spawn so others have a chance to up.
2. I've killd tigers with one trigger squeeze.  Rare yes but it happens. Also a turreted tank is for the most part out of the fight.
3.I'd love the mollins guns mossie along with the up-gunned IL-2 and the Ju-87g.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Larry on June 03, 2008, 05:26:14 AM
1. Useless? Erm no They still have uses. I've flown a Hurri to a camped spawn so others have a chance to up.
2. I've killd tigers with one trigger squeeze.  Rare yes but it happens. Also a turreted tank is for the most part out of the fight.
3.I'd love the mollins guns mossie along with the up-gunned IL-2 and the Ju-87g.


1. Useless as in once someone gets killed by a IL2 or Hurri they up a wirble and theres not much you can do about it because once your in gun range your already in the tower.
2. Killing tigers with an IL is pretty hard, a little easier with the Hurri, but with a B25 a tiger stands no chance. One shot will kill him or if hes lucky just take out his turret.
3. I would like to see more anti-tank planes but I think they'll have the same problems the Il2 and hurri have.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Lusche on June 03, 2008, 05:35:25 AM
1. Useless as in once someone gets killed by a IL2 or Hurri they up a wirble and theres not much you can do about it because once your in gun range your already in the tower.

Yup. I have switched from the noble art of busting tanks with a Hurri IID to back to the ignoble method of just egging them.  :(
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Noir on June 03, 2008, 08:34:50 AM
Yup. I have switched from the noble art of busting tanks with a Hurri IID to back to the ignoble method of just egging them.  :(

The mossie is kindof well suited for this, 4 bombs, good climb rate, good dives, and once you've droped the ord you are not naked.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Lye-El on June 03, 2008, 05:35:55 PM
Its the Wirbles that drive me nuts.....I dont even try with them any more.

I usually am dead before I get within 1k.   :rofl

(With the 25H anyway)

Strip

Just the way I like it!  :devil
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Strip on June 03, 2008, 06:25:12 PM
Actually with a fast fighter I am pretty good at turreting WW's.

Come in high and fast....nearly auger....and blast em on the open top.

Strip
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: E25280 on June 03, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
The B25 is the only anti tank plane I use. The Il2 and Hurri2D are useless since the wirbles were added. The B25s melon tosser can pop thier turrets before they can get a shot on you and its the only one that can kill any GV with one shot.
I agree with you that the 25H is superior for pure tank busting -- however, if there are any air cons around, the 25 is fairly well toast while the Il2 can quickly turn the tables on attacking aircraft.  I don't have much time in the 2D, but I imagine it would be in between the two in terms of survivability during a true combined forces attack.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Larry on June 03, 2008, 11:14:50 PM
I find the 25h great at killing attacking enemy planes. If they try to HO you its like HOing a P47 and I don't know if the .50s in the turrets are a different model then the other bombers but they knock out planes fast, that is if they don't get knocked out first.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Noir on June 04, 2008, 03:10:16 AM
I find the 25h great at killing attacking enemy planes. If they try to HO you its like HOing a P47 and I don't know if the .50s in the turrets are a different model then the other bombers but they knock out planes fast, that is if they don't get knocked out first.

Thats right, I killled a 262 with the turrets once
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: Pannono on June 05, 2008, 12:12:06 PM
Larry, would you mind making a "sweet spot" indicator for the other tanks? thanks in advance
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: hubsonfire on June 06, 2008, 11:16:43 AM
If you don't mind taking the occasional artillery round in the face, a broadside shot (aiming for the driver's position) is normally a 1 hit kill against panzers. Firing into the rear works decently well (normally getting the engine or turret), and occasionally landing one underneath the tank (as in a low six approach and you miss) will knock out the engine.

There's an oddity with the flaks where, when attacked from one side, the tracks on the other side will be shot out. I still am able to kill them as outlined above, but I get shot a lot more trying it. From above and behind is normally a little safer, as the driver is often looking forward more than backward.
Title: Re: 75mm HE vs T34
Post by: moot on June 06, 2008, 12:04:58 PM
I've gotten the opposite track on a flak damaged from a 12oc shot, somehow.