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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Valerio on June 01, 2008, 10:58:49 PM
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I was looking up on the internet at google for bombers who might of been blown into bits by there own bombs, it sounded crazy, yet i know it happens when i saw that it had been an enemy fighter plane that managed to get through escort of P-38's and shot the bay of the bomber causing the bombs inside to set off when hit. We don't happen to have that in AH2, do we? I never saw a bomber in AH2 have an accidental BOOM because of a bullet hitting a bomb.
February 1944,
Bomber escort was ambushed over German city by a small group (10) of 109K-4's. 6 were killed in dogfighting, 2 were gunned down by bomber gunners, 1 collided with bomber, last one seemed to have made it through all the hell and shot 22 rounds in the hull of the B-17G. The cause was fatal. Scientists analyzed the cause of death, they found a battered bomb with 3 holes and they predict that this cause the bombs to, set off in the hull.
It would be awesome to have this kind of thing happen when fighter shoots the belly of the bomber. To hell with enemy bomber pilots!
:devil :devil :devil :devil :devil
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Good Luck with that ;)
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That's impossible. The 109K was not in service until late '44/45.
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" I was looking up on the internet " << first mistake.
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highly doubt full the crew armed the bombs when they were close to the target in aces high the target is unknown so i dont think it would work for ah.
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That's impossible. The 109K was not in service until late '44/45.
My bad, it was November 1944, not February. Lol its on Google.
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"Lol its on Google" << second mistake.
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ANYMORE MISTAKES YOU WANT TO POINT OUT?
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not posting a link to your source << third mistake.
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I never saw a bomber in AH2
I'll bet you've barely seen a fighter in AH2 as well. :lol
Seriously, i've logged many hours in heavy bombers in AH2 and
can't remember ever having my bomb bay attacked.
If you can produce evidence (film/screen shots) that you and others
are regularly landing bullets inside open bomb bays in AH2 then maybe
you have a case.
If this thread should encourage fighter jocks to attack buffs from below
i won't object. :D
<S>
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Everyone knows that a bomb could be set off by a bullet. But have you ever tried shooting a bomber in the belly were it keeps its bombs?? :confused:
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Shade^ :noid
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Smart Raider14... :lol
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Everyone knows that a bomb could be set off by a bullet. But have you ever tried shooting a bomber in the belly were it keeps its bombs?? :confused:
I do it regulary, nothing happens...actually its a bad place to hit bombers in AH.
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Everyone knows that a bomb could be set off by a bullet. But have you ever tried shooting a bomber in the belly were it keeps its bombs?? :confused:
I find this somewhat surprising given the thick casings used in WWII era GP bombs. The AN-Mxx series of US bombs were approximately 50% casing & 50% explosive (comparable to today's Mk-82). This equates to a typical wall thickness of at least 1/2 inch (based on Mk-82 data).
The data I have states that .50 cal M2 AP was able to penetrate .75 in of steel @ 500 yd. This assumes an impact normal to the target (perpendicular). Taking into account the likely oblique angle of impact, as well as the decceleration and probable tumbling the round would experience after passing thru the aircraft structure, and it seems unlikely that the round would penetrate the bomb casing. Granted, the casing were cast and therefore not the strongest, but it still seems unlikely.
:salute
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Yes, but in this case it isn't the penetration that would be the concern but rather the huge high-explosive shell walloping the side of the bomb casing.
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Yes, but in this case it isn't the penetration that would be the concern but rather the huge high-explosive shell walloping the side of the bomb casing.
Which, a thin walled high explosive shell that disintegrates on contact would do nothing, assuming it didn't already detonate when hitting the skin or structure of the bomber.
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I'm sure that's why a couple of them could tear the structure (not just the skin) of a bomber into pieces. :)
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I'm sure that's why a couple of them could tear the structure (not just the skin) of a bomber into pieces. :)
Yeah... because its a light aluminum frame to keep weight down... not a half an inch of cast iron...
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Keep in mind, the 109K-4 had 30mm, and 13mm rounds, i don't doubt one of those bullets couldn't of set off a bomb :D.
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Keep in mind, the 109K-4 had 30mm, and 13mm rounds, i don't doubt one of those bullets couldn't of set off a bomb :D.
The low velocity HE 30mm would pose no kinetic threat to the thick bomb casing. It doesn't have the energy or the structural integrity to do the job. There is a chance that the exploding shell could set off the bombs detonator, but since the bombs are still "safed" this is unlikely.
The bigger threat is the 13mm AP, which has essentially the same performance as the M2 AP I described earlier. Again, very unlikely.
I'm sure that's why a couple of them could tear the structure (not just the skin) of a bomber into pieces. :)
We're talking about somehow setting off the bombs in the bomb bay. 30mm can and did devastate the aluminum structure of buffs, but unless you get what we call a "sympathetic detonation" from the bombs themselves, the bombs go pretty much unscathed. Think of heavy steel pipes being hauled around in a giant Coke can. You can easily blast the Coke can to Hell while barely scratching the pipes.
And the skin is the structure.