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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Toad on May 20, 2008, 04:36:25 PM
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What are the top three issues that concern you the most with respect to the upcoming Presidential election? With all this talk of "change" what are the things you would like to see changed?
Me?
1. I want to see Supreme Court judges appointed that judge cases on the meaning of the Constitution as written, "constructionist" justices.
2. It is WAY past time to simplify the income tax, either with a combo national sales tax/flat rate operation or with a combo user tax/flat rate system. The present system is idiotic and way too complicated. Time for major change.
3. Immigration reform, including making it easier for legal immigration of people with demonstrated skill sets we need and including much tougher action against illegals. This would primarily include a quick background check for SSAN and citizenship much like the NICS check for firearm purchases for people applying for a job and severe penalties against company officers that hire people who have not passed this check. Illegals, when caught would simply be deported immediately to their country of origin. First get rid of the jobs by holding employers responsible and the toss out any illegals that regular procedures find.
There's my starter list.
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1. Tort reform. There are too many frivolous lawsuits and we need to have a president willing to sign a bill that requires if you sue and lose, you pay all court and legal fees from all parties involved.
2. Flat tax. Nuff said.
3. Immigration. Close the borders, beef them up. Round up those here illegally and ship 'em back and get them off our welfare and SS system.
4.Privatization of Social Security.
Okay, you said 3, but I can't just limit it to 3. :)
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What you guys said and:
Require every TV channel to be available in Std and High Def or at least High Def :aok
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Immigration, shutting down the borders and throwing illegals and those that employ them out on their ass.
Flat or simplified taxes
Stop calling gays a minority and treat it like it is a lifestyle choice. there should be no special treatment or benefits them.
Those would be my first three things done as president myself so I guess thats what I am hoping for.
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Issues?
Energy Policy: We should have one. One that has government actually encouraging energy independance thru nuclear, coal to liquid, renewables, oil shale, etc...
Balanced Budget
Secure Borders
Fondest wish? 99% of congressional incumbants running defeated
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1) Secure the borders with more than bailing wire & duct tape + ALL illegals go home, PERIOD. If they come back they have to work while in jail doing something that pays for their incarceration plus some...and they don't personally get a dime. If they come back illegal again...sentance triples. Also, the illegals are forced to pay for their own trips home.
2) Flat tax and the end of the IRS as we know it.
3) While continuing to train Iraqi & Afghan security forces, they need to seal up their borders as well. All the while we are slowly trickling our folks home as the locals handle it. If they can't handle it, we come back in a heartbeat. All the insurgent-monkeys sneaking in from Syria & Iran are the ones causing the problems anyways. Since they are up to no good anyway, consider them enemy combatants and blow their pumpkins off once they sneak in. They are willing to go on suicide missions anyway, so chamber that round & make it count.
I'd also get with Karzai and let him know for every poppy field we spot on surveilance cameras that they don't burn, we will and charge them for each one we have to destroy. I think that US grain reserves would be more than happy to sell them corn, wheat, and other seeds for a legitimate crop they can take to market. It's a matter of heroin money going to fund terrorism.
Oh...and FAR more stringent drivers licence testing in all 50 states that would have to measure up to a national standard. How many lives are lost every year by idiots in a 2 ton vehicle that are either drunk, on the cell phone, reading a newspaper, or otherwise not paying jack for attention---and the rest of us pay higher car insurance rates because of it. If you are the CAUSE of a serious car accident more than 3 times in any 7 year time frame you lose your license PERMANTLY. Caught driving anyway? 10 Years MANDATORY.
This country is FAR too lenient with Darwin's Escapees.
ROX
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1. I want to see Supreme Court judges appointed that judge cases on the meaning of the Constitution as written, "constructionist" justices.
The term is "strict constructionist," not "constructionist." The categories you are (apparently) trying to use are simplistic and naive, and yet they are the common parlance of even journalistic and political discussions of jurisprudence. If you are interested in discussing judicial philosophy meaningfully, try Ronald Dworkin's Law's Empire as a starting point. The popular work The Nine will allow you to add a little nuance to distinguish say Scalia from Thomas.
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Stop taking away my freedoms
Stop using my tax dollars to house and feed convicted murders and child molesters
Everything Rip said
:aok
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I'm on board with all of you except Impackt.
I had to modify my post, and I apologize.
However, I would like to add a little "nuance" to my post...
Impakt may have consumed a little too much bologna.
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1) GAS prices
2) Gas Prices
3) Gas Prices
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GAYS Deport all gays and drug addicts into camps.
GUNS Require all real Americans to carry a piece at all times.
GOD Waaa MoFo's don't believe in God?.... Bah throw 'em in the camps w/ the druggerts an' homos.
Heya howdy Toad, Rip, been a long time. Good to see y'all still here. I pop in every now an then... Gotta long story.
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The term is "strict constructionist," not "constructionist."
You're quite the supercilious little prig, are you not? You may byte me at your leisure, sir.
Perhaps that's too harsh, as it would appear (unless you are just another shade) that you haven't been here long. I invite you to search the BBS for the word "constructionist" used in the O'Club by Toad. I think you will find the word "strict" accompanies it most times and it should be obvious that regular readers here know exactly what I meant.
Good day.
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Heya howdy Toad, Rip, been a long time. Good to see y'all still here. I pop in every now an then... Gotta long story.
Indeed, 10. Long, long time no see. Good to see you back, even if your first post is a topwater lure. ;)
So start a thread and tell us the story! Where you been man?
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1 Keep Clinton away from the whitehouse.
2 Keep Obamaman away from the whitehouse.
3 Keep the boys fighting the good fight against radical Islam.
(I thought impakt was going to stay away from the political threads...)
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I do have to add a caveat in regard to gays. I've encountered gays that are so gay, that to me there is no doubt that this is how God made them. I'm sure there are some perverted hets that choose gay just for being kinky, but I don't think many do. One thing is for sure tho, all gays suck...
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Constitutional faithfulness
Immigration
Education
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I'd like to see representatives that represent their majority constituency and not
a political party or special interest.
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A sound, feasable, achievable energy policy.
Illegal Immigration reform. Close the borders, sweep up the rubbish and deposit it right back into the dustbin it came from.
Finish the job in Iraq and Afghanistan. Train their folks to do the job, and pull out, leaving behind a small force, such as was done with Korea.
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1) GAS prices
2) Gas Prices
3) Gas Prices
do you know gas cost really nothing in the US ?
compare this http://www.america-dreamz.com/conseils_pratiques/prix_carburant_usa.php
with the 1.51 per liter I paid 10 minutes ago (it was regular)
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1. Health Care
2. Immigration reform
3. Ending Bush's idiotic foreign policy.
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I would go along with moot.
constitutional faithfulness... yep.. that would mean appointing judges as Mccain said he would do.
Immigration.. yep.. arrest the employers of illegals and allow more highly skilled people who love what this country is about to immigrate.
education... yep.. save a few bucks here and improve things greatly. Vouchers. Stop the waste of public schools.
I would also like to see a realistic energy policy that included exploration for oil.. tax credits for the exploration.. I would like to see more nuke plants and maybe even perhaps a "manhattan project" type of thing for alternatives. not one that taxed the people even more tho.. we have plenty of tax money.
Iraq.. we should see it out.
Health care.. we should keep the government out of it as much as possible.
lazs
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GAYS Deport all gays and drug addicts into camps.
GUNS Require all real Americans to carry a piece at all times.
GOD Waaa MoFo's don't believe in God?.... Bah throw 'em in the camps w/ the druggerts an' homos.
Heya howdy Toad, Rip, been a long time. Good to see y'all still here. I pop in every now an then... Gotta long story.
10bears! Whassup! Aloha! Mahalo! Where the hell you been? I heard they were looking for a virgin to sacrifice to the Volcano and they ran you outta town! :D
Hey, I'll be in Oahu in Feb. 09. Got the tickets in hand. Let me know if you'll be around, maybe we can hook up for a cold one!
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I do have to add a caveat in regard to gays. I've encountered gays that are so gay, that to me there is no doubt that this is how God made them. I'm sure there are some perverted hets that choose gay just for being kinky, but I don't think many do. One thing is for sure tho, all gays suck...
butcha know what? their money spends just the same as yours and mine. i don't care who/what ya are....just send your business my way so i can kep my doors opened.
:D
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1) End the garrisoning of American troops on foreign soil, including Europe, Okinawa, Korea, and Iraq.
2) End most favored Nation trade status with China, demand our trading partners offer the same workers' health protections we require, eliminate the trade defecit.
3) Balance the budget.
There's more- illegal immigration, for example- but that's not a policy issue as much as it's an enforcement issue.
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1. Sealing the borders and repatriation of all illegals and anchor babies to country of origin. Stop all payments of any type from the US or any state treasury to any foreign national. Make 1 year prison time mandatory for every illegal alien that an employer hires - real time, no early release.
2. An energy plan that includes massive drilling wherever we can find reserves with environmental waivers granted to streamline the time to market, many new nuclearpower plants, use of coal, coal-gassification, in areas that diesel is used to fire the powerplants, replace with coal burners. tax breaks for those who are developing new efficiency technologies.
3. Ending trade deficits with communist china. If a product cannot be produced legally in the US the same way it is produced in communist china, or any country, that product cannot be put on American shelves. We have to review our tax policies which stifle businesses ans also OSHA and other labor regulations... when we have trimmed the BS away from those and stopped allowing communist china to subsidize products for sale here that have only one purpose - to put American businesses under - we can then become a major manufacturing player again.
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1. Get rid of the designated hitter in baseball.
2. Make driving too slow in the left lane a capital offense (with "too slow" defined as slower than I want to go).
3. Repeal the commandment about coveting thy neighbors wife
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1. Get rid of the designated hitter in baseball.
2. Make driving too slow in the left lane a capital offense (with "too slow" defined as slower than I want to go).
3. Repeal the 9th commandment
Not all that sure about 1 & 3...but most all states have a law "Slower Traffic Keep Right". I NEVER see it enforced, ever.
ROX
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See Rules #2, #6
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10bears! Whassup! Aloha! Mahalo! Where the hell you been? I heard they were looking for a virgin to sacrifice to the Volcano and they ran you outta town! :D
Hey, I'll be in Oahu in Feb. 09. Got the tickets in hand. Let me know if you'll be around, maybe we can hook up for a cold one!
That would be very cool Rip. Feb 9th.. that's ah... 9 months away. I could figure out how to have some business over there or doctors appointment/ shopping etc. Yeah that would be great!
I still know several very fun bars in Honolulu. The one you prolly want to go to, the chick that shot ping-pong balls out her popsicle down on Hotel street is long gone but there's others almost as good.
As you might know, four years ago I tore down my old cabin down near South Point on the Big Isle. Used alot of the lumber but still ended up spending close to 8k on new lumber. HELCO (Hawaii electric company), wanted to charge me 6k for a temporary power pole. They said I could pay it in monthly installments which would've made the electric bill close to $250. I said nuts to that. Went out and bought 4 120 volt solar panels, 8 6 volt deep cell batteries and a top-of-the-line Xantrex inverter. Even that wasn't enough power for me, I ended up having to buy an off brand generator on account of me living at 4100 feet in the cloud zone.
See those two bales of hay in my bedroom?.... Well, um that ain't hay.
Kelly's doing great (daughter) She's 22 now. Lives/works in Kailua-Kona town and get this.... goes to school at night. I'm completely amazed at her turn around.. Her teenage years were a tad ...problematic... Your two sons are not that age yet but they will be soon enough so enjoy the magic years brother coz they only come around once.
I've got wireless internet... and a Skype phone.. number is 1-989-785-0521 or if you have "Skype" you can type in stevehou2 to get me. For some reason I can't seem to get email to work I might end up having to use a service like Yahoo or some such.
Aloha brah.
Steve "10Bears" Houston
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as a canadian...
1. how much crying i'm going to have to listen to before hand
2. how much crying i'm going to have to listen to afterwords
3. how entertaining said crying will be.
beyond that, as long as you dont elect someone hell bent on global domination, i dont care much...
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Reverse tort reform, Remove limits placed on the courts and law suits, This will make companies to fear the people and should allow deregulation of companies. Companies will self regulate if they fear they will lose there business because of business malpractice.
Pull back troops from all countries Would rather they were stationed in the country, Let our tax dollars go to our own country.
Healthcare reform, If the countries Healthcare system can not work the way it is. We need to create a new system.
4th and 5th would be energy policy and Border control.
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Issues?
Energy Policy: We should have one. One that has government actually encouraging energy independance thru nuclear, coal to liquid, renewables, oil shale, etc...
Balanced Budget
Secure Borders
Fondest wish? 99% of congressional incumbants running defeated
Ditto,
I may add flat tax and get government out of lives not more intrusive, like say heathcare or any other socialist ideals.
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Stop calling gays a minority and treat it like it is a lifestyle choice. there should be no special treatment or benefits them.
Same with religious folks. No special rights for them, strike all the laws that grant them rights others don't have. It's a lifestyle choice, not a golden ticket.
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chair.. I guess you would have a point if being of a religion gave you any extra rights or... if being gay took any away.. or... if gay was a charitable non profit organization.
lazs
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Oh, but it does, there are a number of states where you must be religious to hold public office. The religious folks have plenty of special rights, it'll be an interesting test of character (and, dare I say, 'intellectual honesty'?) to see how you and Mustaine respond to this.
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Oh, but it does, there are a number of states where you must be religious to hold public office. The religious folks have plenty of special rights, it'll be an interesting test of character (and, dare I say, 'intellectual honesty'?) to see how you and Mustaine respond to this.
What states, specifically?
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Texas, for one. The Bill of Rights of the Texas Constitution (Article I, Section 4) allows people to be excluded from holding office on religious grounds. An official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."
Arkansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Tennessee all have similar language in their constitutions/bills o' right/etc.
You didn't know this?
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CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS.
Article II. It is the right as well as the duty of all men in society, publicly, and at stated seasons to worship the Supreme Being, the great Creator and Preserver of the universe. And no subject shall be hurt, molested, or restrained, in his person, liberty, or estate, for worshipping God in the manner and season most agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; or for his religious profession or sentiments; provided he doth not disturb the public peace, or obstruct others in their religious worship.
Women, however, can be without faith in God.
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Toad said "constructionist" instead of "strict constructionist" and that is worth a snide and pedantic lecture? I attended a Scalia presentation in February and he refers to himself as an originalist. You might want to write him and correct him.
Amazing all the names I've been called here, but I'm wrong for correcting someone. There is a distinction between Scalia's position accurately called by him "originalism" and other nuanced positions. I guess I tire of the public talking about constitutional law when they haven't had a course on it in law School and haven't taken an advanced course on jurisprudence. Pedantry is truth here; the views of the public, and journalistic accounts, not worth discussing. I'm glad you attended a lecture---I had dinner with him and his wife at the Swiss embassy in 1990 or thereabouts---hey I'm pedantic, a blowhard, and a name dropper----trifecta.
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chair... I would be against any religious requirement for public office.. it is really simple.. no need to make a big deal out of it. simply wrong on all levels. I don't really think this is a large problem but you can count me in on the next march or letter writing binge. I am with you on this one but not real shook up about it since I have just now heard of it.
lazs
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See Rule #4
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Most folks construe 'originalist' (which I've heard Scalia say) and 'strict constructionist' to be one and the same, (rather like 'liberal' and 'progressive') What differences are there supposed to be?
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Get it back on track folks.
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Yes, PEOPLE think gas prices (which affect every other price) might be a viable election time gripe, no chief executive has control over gas prices. Nixon didn't during the OPEC embargo in the early '70's and Bush has no more power now.
Securing our borders and keeping our peoples safe is required of our leaders...and is one of the HUGEST election issues.
This is Memorial Day weekend. Many men & women served and many died for our freedom and security. If they didn't, this country wouldn't be here.
ROX
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I'm not sure what mechanism the president would use to control gas prices even if he wanted. Tell the oil companies to sell at a loss? Tell them what profit margins to run at? Cut our own throat by tapping into the oil reserves/ANWR? BTW, the reason I don't want Alaska drilled yet is that I'd much rather we use all the other countries oil first. If we drill now, then we'll run out the same time as everyone else, anyone ever consider the strategic implications of this? Or was everyone too busy crying about the extra Starbuck's latte they could have bought with the increased prices?
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Need to restore the value of the dollar (or at least make the world THINK we are gonna do that, which is mebbe good enough for the short term) and figger out some way to make it unappealing to speculate on oil futures
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BTW, the reason I don't want Alaska drilled yet is that I'd much rather we use all the other countries oil first. If we drill now, then we'll run out the same time as everyone else, anyone ever consider the strategic implications of this?
What are the strategic implications of going bankrupt?
Oil is about 40% of the trade deficit.
Energy policy that makes us energy self sufficient strengthens our economy, strengthens the dollar, and strengthens our foreign policy.
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And then we run out of oil at the same time as everyone else and have no military advantage. If we help everyone else consume their oil first while it's cheap, then we're left with out own source we can both control who gets gas and what the price is. Countries that export their natural resources for short term gain are giving away the farm and taking the short term view in a world that needs long term vision.
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chair... I would allow offshore drilling and the building of nuke plants. You get cheap electrical and the oil is not as big a deal. you drill offshore and you will find lots of oil tho.
Neither one of these things will happen under a democrat. They will simply put a bigger tax on oil to punish us for being alive.
lazs
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Unless there's a big breakthrough in solar or bio fuels in the very near future, I think we will have to build some more nuke plants. The French and Japanese seem to be able to do it safely.
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yes.. but they are evil countries who don't care about the birdies and fishies and the three eyed newt.
lazs
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Unless there's a big breakthrough in solar or bio fuels in the very near future, I think we will have to build some more nuke plants. The French and Japanese seem to be able to do it safely.
cough inertial electrostatic fusion cough (http://www.mediafire.com/?j2t23sdmnmc)