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Title: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 23, 2008, 09:15:48 PM

someone posted on this a while back but I couldnt fnd the thread.

These things over the last month or two have just started showing up here.

These things SUCK

The draws not right.
They seem to taste different.

And they FREAKING GO OUT WHILE YOUR SMOKING THEM!
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: CAP1 on May 23, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
someone posted on this a while back but I couldnt fnd the thread.

These things over the last month or two have just started showing up here.

These things SUCK

The draws not right.
They seem to taste different.

And they FREAKING GO OUT WHILE YOUR SMOKING THEM!

maybe a sign that it's time to quit, and save yourself the $5 a pack? :aok :D
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 23, 2008, 09:26:13 PM
maybe a sign that it's time to quit, and save yourself the $5 a pack? :aok :D

yea I know.

Was trying going the Chantix route. a couple of weeks ago
But I found myselfe suceptable to several of the potential  side effects.

Lethargic,
Insomnia. (and Im someone that was able to force themselves to sleep on Acid and Crank)

VERY Weird drams when I did sleep

And Depression.

That crap is still leaving my system

And the worst part. is I found I was smoking more
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: CAP1 on May 23, 2008, 09:31:40 PM
yea I know.

Was trying going the Chantix route. a couple of weeks ago
But I found myselfe suceptable to several of the potential  side effects.

Lethargic,
Insomnia. (and Im someone that was able to force themselves to sleep on Acid and Crank)

VERY Weird drams when I did sleep

And Depression.

That crap is still leaving my system

And the worst part. is I found I was smoking more


well, i think ANY of the drugs they market to quit smoking..or anything for that matter, will have nasty side effects. i think there's only a couple ways really.......one, would be how my mom quit...when i was about 10, my brother and i both nagged her endlessly till she got so disgusted hearing us about it, that she finally just gave up and quit.
 the other is the way a few friends have done. i have 3 friends that went to a hypnotherapist. with the excption of brian's wife, they all still don;t smoke anymore....and it's been almost 20 years now.

now, please don't misunderstand me, i'm not trying to tell you what to do. i was actually joking in my last post, and since you mentioned that you;re trying to quit, i only mentioned what worked for people i know.

<<S>>
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: DiabloTX on May 23, 2008, 09:38:37 PM
I found the best method to quit was the Nicotrol Inhaler.  Yes, it tastes like crap but it had me off of smokes in less than 2 weeks, no side affects.  Well, no side affects for me anyway.  And best of all, no insomnia.  I could sleep under low flying helicopters when I was active duty in the navy. 

**your actual results may very, results not typical, consult your physician before staring program, always wear a condom, and in extreme cases goat-headed babies have been found in .04% of test subjects**
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Mark Luper on May 23, 2008, 09:44:58 PM
Too bad the chantix didn't work for you. It never caused insomnia in me and I had no nightmares though I did have a lot of interesting dreams. There were some other slight side effects for me but for the first time in my life I was able to quit. I quit April 5th of last year.

Yes, every once in a while I would really like to light one up but I havn't given into it. My wife won't let me for one thing... She does give me a lot of support though.

Good luck with quitting.

Mark
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: sluggish on May 23, 2008, 09:45:19 PM
The most effective method of quitting smoking is the one where you watch someone you love and respect die a slow, agonizing and horriffic death.  Then again mabe cigarettes aren't really bad for you.  Or maybe the rules just don't aply to you.  Yeah, that's it.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: CAP1 on May 23, 2008, 10:35:38 PM
Too bad the chantix didn't work for you. It never caused insomnia in me and I had no nightmares though I did have a lot of interesting dreams. There were some other slight side effects for me but for the first time in my life I was able to quit. I quit April 5th of last year.

Yes, every once in a while I would really like to light one up but I havn't given into it. My wife won't let me for one thing... She does give me a lot of support though.

Good luck with quitting.

Mark

 :aok
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: vorticon on May 23, 2008, 10:46:54 PM
switch to cigars.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Mark Luper on May 23, 2008, 11:40:23 PM
switch to cigars.

Actually that doesn't work for quitting. The idea is, as I see it, quitting tobacco completely. At one point in time I smoked pipes to get away from cigarrettes. It became a new habit and I went back to cigarrettes.

I smoked for over 40 years before I quit. It basically boils down to making up your mind you really want to quit. The Chantix made it much easier for me but without the will to stop it would have been a waste of time.

Mark
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: vorticon on May 24, 2008, 12:10:41 AM
Actually that doesn't work for quitting. The idea is, as I see it, quitting tobacco completely. At one point in time I smoked pipes to get away from cigarrettes. It became a new habit and I went back to cigarrettes.


Mark

that was more about avoiding the fire safe cigarettes than quitting, i should have made that clearer.

though the added cost of cigars over cigarettes might help some as a incentive to quit.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 24, 2008, 12:20:07 AM
switch to cigars.

Thing is. I smoke those too. LOL

Fell in love with em last spring.
Now when I go into a cigar shop Im like a kid in a candy store.
Buy 2-3 of ones I know I like (Bolivar, Pedermo, Partagas, Camacho etc)
And 2-3 of ones I never tried before.

Only smoke one or two cigars a week though.

Chantix might have worked had I followed it through.
The worst part was the feeling lethargic, and depressed (nothings weirder then the dreams you have on acid LOL)
I'd get to the jobsite in the morning. And had a really hard time motivating myself to do anything.
And when you get paid for what you do. Rather then for how long you do it.
Well thats not a good thing.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: SIK1 on May 24, 2008, 12:21:22 AM
The most effective method of quitting smoking is the one where you watch someone you love and respect die a slow, agonizing and horriffic death.  Then again mabe cigarettes aren't really bad for you.  Or maybe the rules just don't aply to you.  Yeah, that's it.

That method didn't work for me. I watched my mom die from lung cancer when I was thirteen.

I smoked for another twenty-eight years. Just quit last year Feb. 19, I used the commit lozange(sp). I think that you just have to be ready to quit no matter what aid, if any, you use.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 24, 2008, 12:37:08 AM
The most effective method of quitting smoking is the one where you watch someone you love and respect die a slow, agonizing and horriffic death.  Then again mabe cigarettes aren't really bad for you.  Or maybe the rules just don't aply to you.  Yeah, that's it.

Seen it.

Plus Im already a Chemo veteran (hodgkins lymphoma)

I know very well the rules apply to  me.
Even moreso then the average person

thing is. every time I think about quitting. and get close to actually doing it.
My wife starts telling me to quit.
And for some reason. As soon as she starts in. I no longer feel like quitting.

I know that sounds weird. But its true.

Worst way to get me to do something is to pester me about it.
The more im pestered. the less likely I am to do it.

Its gotta be of my own mind in my own time.

But I gotta stop.
Tired of hacking in the morning.
And the expence is just rediculous already. between 5.61 and 6.12 a pack
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: CAP1 on May 24, 2008, 12:52:54 AM

And the expence is just rediculous already. between 5.61 and 6.12 a pack

and if you smoke 2 packs a day, i think that's a car payment a month. :D or a half of a payment a month for a truck that can fit  that one chick from the friday babe thread :O. you know..the one holding the diet drink? :O :rofl
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: vorticon on May 24, 2008, 12:56:35 AM

I'd get to the jobsite in the morning. And had a really hard time motivating myself to do anything.
And when you get paid for what you do. Rather then for how long you do it.
Well thats not a good thing.

seems to be common with stop smoke drugs. isn't much fun working with  guys like that, either...
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: wrongwayric on May 24, 2008, 09:42:13 AM
Think i was the one posted that awhile back. If you look at the bottom of the pack you'll see FSC printed there. I agree they sux! I actually smoke more, because instead of my smoke burning out i just pick it up, re light and smoke away.
Kind of a catch 22 there IMO.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Xasthur on May 25, 2008, 09:45:11 AM
3 friggin' old women in my area killed themselves this week smoking in bed.

I can't understand smoking in bed... I just can't. I don't smoke anymore... I'll have one if the occasion calls for it, but I don't smoke on regular days anymore. When I did smoke I never enjoyed doing it inside much... much less in my bed.




Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 25, 2008, 02:09:49 PM
and if you smoke 2 packs a day, i think that's a car payment a month.

Hell you could even afford to fill up that diesel F-350 once a month.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: evenhaim on May 25, 2008, 02:18:20 PM
All of these new things are bs, smoke outside, thats it, put it out, i mean seriously ive smoked for a few years and have yet to light someting on fire and or kill someone  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: FlyinFin on May 25, 2008, 03:42:28 PM
When YOU want to quit you will. I did, no chantix, no patch, and no nicotine gum. Just woke up and quit. I did use spearmint gum for the 1st week or two. I quit while my girlfriend kept smoking. I smoked from 17 to 43. I found the habit harder to kick than the addiction.

The one thing I never new about when I was smoking was how bad I stank. If you smoke you stink guaranteed.

the reason:
A friend of mine who at the river with the gang Sep '05, was found up in northern cal Feb 06, not far from a mountain cabin he owned part interest in, he had blown his head off. Turns out unknown to any of us he had severe emphysema from smoking 40 years. He had thrown up blood all the way up the mountain to the small pond where he was found frozen in the snow.
That made me quit. I was done. March '06

 The next year my next-door neighbor got diagnosed with lung cancer from smoking. It was May '07. He would sneak and smoke outside by his truck so his wife wouldn’t see him during his chemo treatment. I would chastize, beg, okay it you're life blah blah. Everytime I saw him. He went for a surgery to remove the tube that leads down to one side of his lung. Turned out that his whole lung was bad and they had to take the whole thing. He became septic after that and was placed in doc induced comma. Never made it back. Sep '07 toast.

When you want to quit you will or you can choose not to by sheer lack of willpower, weakness. Al it boils down too.

Safe ciggy's will be coming to your area soon :) they way they work is they make the paper thicker or more dense in some spots so you smoke more paper :) thats got to be good for ya :)
http://firesafecigarettes.org/itemDetail.asp?categoryID=48&itemID=1190&URL=About%20fire-safe%20cigarettes/What%20is%20a%20fire-safe%20cigarette?

(http://www.nfpa.org/assets/images/FSC_2map_img.gif)

Good luck,

Fin
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Lumpy on May 25, 2008, 07:24:31 PM
People who need nicotine-substitutes to stop smoking rarely succeeds. You really need to want to quit and must have the willpower to stick with it. The first 24 hours are bad, but then it will get easier for every day that passes. I promised myself that I would quit smoking before I turned 30, and I never break a promise; so the night before my 30th birthday I ceremoniously smoked my last cigarette. That was four years ago.

Sometimes I dream about smoking and wake up feeling guilty ... strange how the mind works.
Title: Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes
Post by: Barrett on May 25, 2008, 11:16:39 PM
I have tried to quit many times - have lasted as long as 4 months. The desire for the act of smoking has always won over in the end.

A guy I know said to try Drum - roll your own. He claimed it was not as harmful as Winstons and there was time to take a breath and think about what I was doing.

So, now I smoke Drum and roll my own. I smoke a lot less and a pack of Drum lasts about a week for $3.58.

For the time being, I've found my medium I guess. I smoked Lucky's and Winstons for 50 years. I think that the Drum, roll my own scenario, might be as good as it's going to get.

Annual ct-scans, x-rays show my lungs to be hyper-lucent to this day....

I do not smoke around people who don't smoke - so I hang around with them - I'm doing the best I can...