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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: REP0MAN on June 03, 2008, 12:22:16 AM
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Some of you know I recently took a part-time police officer position with a small town south of Tulsa, Ok. I spent several years in full time law enforcement between 1996-2001. Tonight was my first shift back.
I rode with the evening shift officer from 3pm-11pm. I will be working Sun and Mon graveyards 11pm-7am. Tonight we took an accident report and tracked down a hit and run vehicle. We cited a vehicle for parking in a handicapped space at the baseball fields then, after running the registered owner and finding that he has a suspended license, hoped we would find him driving the vehicle away. Ended up getting some chow and the turd got out of there before we could get back. We chatted with a friend of the officer who builds AR15s. If I find an extra 700 bucks, I may get one. From 9pm till 11pm, we ran traffic. Running traffic is like fishing. Both of which I suck at. Finally, at 1045pm, a vehicle came by with one headlight. We stopped it, check credentials and DL status of the driver and gave a verbal safety warning to fix the headlight. All in all, nothing to speak of in small town America. If they paid 7 bucks more per hour, I'd take the full time position they keep asking me to take. I'm thinking hard about it but would have to work a second job too. Not bad EQT though. Was issued a new vest, Glock 22 with 15rd Hi-Cap mags, uniforms, all brass except name plate and they issued me a car to drive when I am on shift (not take home). I'll post some pics next week.
It's nice to be back :)
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Stay safe
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In the Ghetto, "Elvis singing in background", you would have to fish all day to find somone with a legit DL, let alone insurance. If they have both then we hand them out a good citizen award. But I know how you feel. I was off for awhile from an injury and it felt kinda weird getting back.
Midnights??? Oh man never again. Anyway, welcome back. :salute
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Well, yeah, midnights. Im unable to work another shift due to my current full time job. I make almost triple per hour what this city is paying me for my part time shifts. I'm told a full time officer makes just a hair more than part time. I really want to leave the ISP I work for and get back to full time LEO but there is just no money in it here. I'm turning in an application to a tribal police (Federal pay and benie's) south of Tulsa. I exceed their qualifications by a landslide. Well, except, I'm not Indian. I'll keep you post on my race discrimination :lol
Thanks Rich. Be safe bud.
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Now a seasoned officer would have called the local pizza delivery guy to bring him a pizza while he waited for the guy with the suspended license to try to leave. ;) Yea and there's no doughnuts mentioned in this story. :O All good police stories should have doughnuts in them. :rofl
Well good luck and be safe and it's sad that the money just isn't there. Wonder were all that drug money that gets seized goes? Seems to me it should go to officers pay and insurance. Just a thought.
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And to think we were gonna hook up for a few beers... I smell a trap.
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Mac
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Well, yeah, midnights. Im unable to work another shift due to my current full time job. I make almost triple per hour what this city is paying me for my part time shifts. I'm told a full time officer makes just a hair more than part time. I really want to leave the ISP I work for and get back to full time LEO but there is just no money in it here. I'm turning in an application to a tribal police (Federal pay and benie's) south of Tulsa. I exceed their qualifications by a landslide. Well, except, I'm not Indian. I'll keep you post on my race discrimination :lol
Thanks Rich. Be safe bud.
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Well, if you were born in the US just tell then you are 'native american'.
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Now a seasoned officer would have called the local pizza delivery guy to bring him a pizza while he waited for the guy with the suspended license to try to leave.
where does it say the owner with the suspended license was the driver?
Wonder were all that drug money that gets seized goes? Seems to me it should go to officers pay and insurance.
then they would be not much more than Mercs or bounty hunters.
would you put foxes in charge of guarding chicken houses?
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"Running traffic is like fishing" and we citizens are the fish?
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where does it say the owner with the suspended license was the driver?
Exactly.
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If I run a plate number on the computer it automatically runs the license status and wants/warrants check on the registered owner. I don't tell it to. If the RO comes back wanted, suspended or has a file stop from another agency, I now have probable cause to stop that vehicle regardless if it violates a traffic law or not. In this specific situation, it was not difficult to match the RO's physical description to a person in the crowd. I did not make contact with this individual, I simply investigated an approximate time in which I thought he would be leaving. I left (okay, we really went to get some bear claws, happy?) with the intent on returning prior to the approximate time I thought this individual would be leaving. When we returned, the vehicle was gone. Win some, lose some.
"Running traffic is like fishing" and we citizens are the fish?
This smells of stink bait but I want to clarify as I wrote that in jest. My interpretation of the similarities of running traffic and fishing are based mostly on the fact that when you run traffic, whether radar, stop signs or patrolling for moving violations or expired tags, sometimes you sit idle for long periods of time. It takes patience to run traffic. Also, in this small town, they have depended on the small Reserve Officer group they have to fill in the gaps on patrol when there is no full or part time officer to be there. These guys only get out on their own every so often and when they do, the leniency on traffic infractions goes WAY down. I've seen citations that have been dismissed by our city judge that were ludicrous. I mean, 5 over the speed limit, no license plate light or defective bumper. Many of the local residents are gun shy about even doing the speed limit because of these few volunteer helpers. So, sometimes you have quite the dry spell when working traffic which, to me, equates it to when I go fishing.
And to think we were gonna hook up for a few beers... I smell a trap.
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Mac
I did have a small bag of weed I had intended on planting on you and calling Tulsa police. But I hear the David L Moss downtown is full so the joke wouldn't have been as funny as I had originally planned. :D
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I did have a small bag of weed I had intended on planting on you and calling Tulsa police. But I hear the David L Moss downtown is full so the joke wouldn't have been as funny as I had originally planned. :D
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Well to answer the question about Mercs/bounty hunters. They kind of sort of are, but legal ones. Let's say a bounty hunter goes out and catches a guy with a $2000 bounty on him, he gets the money, a police officer won't because he's already being paid to actively look for these people. The bounty hunter only gets paid if he finds the guy first, he invests his own money where as the city, county, state, ect.. pays the officers on a daily basis.
I wouldn't have a problem at all with any drug money seized going to officers pensions, disability, insurance, and survivors funds. They deserve it IMO. Let the crooks fund the very guys that are going to bust there butts.
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So you've turned to the dark side....!!
But its something many enjoy doing, I know a few other folks that also do part time law enforcement. Mostly for the few extra bucks...and helping out with their community.
I'd be curious what you weigh now...and after a few weeks on duty....bear claws and all :)
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So you've turned to the dark side....!!
But its something many enjoy doing, I know a few other folks that also do part time law enforcement. Mostly for the few extra bucks...and helping out with their community.
I'd be curious what you weigh now...and after a few weeks on duty....bear claws and all :)
Thankfully Le Paul, I only work 2 shifts per week at the PD and 4-12hr shifts in the hot Oklahoma sun for an ISP. I get too much exercise for the bear claws to stick :lol
I wouldn't have a problem at all with any drug money seized going to officers pensions, disability, insurance, and survivors funds. They deserve it IMO. Let the crooks fund the very guys that are going to bust there butts.
I'll give you some insight on small town law enforcement. I started out in a small county sheriffs office as a jailer/dispatcher. I worked an 8 hour shift (4-midnight) and was the sole person responsible for the protection of and against 45-60 county inmates. I was there, alone, during one of the busiest times in detention, dinner. I was 20. I made 8.00 per hour. No insurance. No furnished equipment. No formal training. I also answered the sheriffs phone line and dispatched deputies to calls for service.
I got older, and went sworn. I made 9.00 per hour. Went to the academy after working, by myself, on the evening shift for nearly 6 months. Came back from the academy and went back to my shift and area. No pay raises. No insurance. No furnished equipment except my the car, shotgun and radio.
I left that county and went to a small town PD. I was the sole officer on the evening shift. 1200 a month salary. No overtime. No insurance. I was furnished a vest, one uniform shirt, one uniform pants and a car. I had a 25 mile per shift limit on the car due to gas prices. (1999 prices)
In all of my law enforcement past, if I were to have been injured on the job, I could only rely on Workmens Compensation. If I were killed, my family would have nothing.
Now, I work a full time job for a major Cable ISP/Teleco. I work 4-12 hour shifts, days. I make a good hourly wage with overtime. 2 days a week, I work for a small town police department that pays me very little. I have full benefits at my full time job but they wont cover on the job injuries on my part time job.
Working in LE is not for those with daydreams of high salaries and weekends off. It's a tough gig sometimes and I agree with rick, these guys deserve better.
I'm looking at leaving my 'safe' career with the ISP and moving into full time LE. It's scary to think about not having that good pay and benefits. But, I also have to be happy with what I do. Right now, that is in LE. The wife agrees and it looks like if things work out, we will be moving north about 60 miles. We'll see!
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I'll bet the perp was watching you checking out his car, then waited for you to leave to get out of there.
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I'll bet the perp was watching you checking out his car, then waited for you to leave to get out of there.
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I wouldn't have a problem at all with any drug money seized going to officers pensions, disability, insurance, and survivors funds. They deserve it IMO. Let the crooks fund the very guys that are going to bust there butts.
I don't have a problem with LE getting paid better and having better benifits for what they do.
but being paid in any way from seizures and such creates a conflict of interest, raises possible problems of being unethical.
And since this State has a tax on Illegal drugs with the stamps being issued for the drugs by type and by the weight. it doesn't matter how much money they seize, if the tax is paid and stamped accordingly for the drugs seized, every single cent of the money goes back to the person that owns it. It has already been ruled on.
the State pretty much did their self in with the tax. if the tax is paid, seizures of property, cars, etc. can also be argued as unconstitutional.
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I don't have a problem with LE getting paid better and having better benifits for what they do.
but being paid in any way from seizures and such creates a conflict of interest, raises possible problems of being unethical.
I agree.
And since this State has a tax on Illegal drugs with the stamps being issued for the drugs by type and by the weight. it doesn't matter how much money they seize, if the tax is paid and stamped accordingly for the drugs seized, every single cent of the money goes back to the person that owns it. It has already been ruled on.
the State pretty much did their self in with the tax. if the tax is paid, seizures of property, cars, etc. can also be argued as unconstitutional.
:lol Morons.
Many cool things come from seizure money. In smaller counties, it goes for better police equipment or wherever the sheriff deems it necessary with the exception of anyone's paycheck. Cars go to the DA's Drug task force as UC units. Homes get sold and turned into revenue for the county. Same for small Police departments.
Yup, that's where my money is too :aok
Crap! He took your money too?! I really suck at this ;)