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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wingnutt on June 06, 2008, 12:04:54 PM
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the WW is easy to turret with guns, thats a give in..
but it seems (at times at least) IMPOSABLE to destroy one with guns..
last night we were attacking a V base with jugs and bombers, all hangars down, 1 lone wirble on the base, he quickly gets turreted..
he drives over to the map room and just parks there..
for the next 10 miniutes.. I dont know how many aircraft pour everything they have into this guy.. there were at least 4 jugs who completely emptied their guns on him, 2 sets of 17s were making low passes strafing him, and a few odd other planes that were around..
every single one emptied all their guns.. many thousands of rounds in total on this guy.. untill everyone was empty..
by this point enemy fighters were getting close so the goon went ahead and dropped troops
sure enough the wirble sat there and killed every single on of them, then towered out, the VHs started popping and that was it..
I know its built on a panzer chassis.. but for gods sake..
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Thin walled HE shells will not do much to a vehicle meant to resist against armor penetrating rounds.
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you would think the troops would maybe lob a grenade at the WW or perhaps go around it!
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I know its built on a panzer chassis.. but for gods sake..
Exactly. A medium tank chassis being strafed with .50 cal machine guns. I see nothing wrong with the Wirbel NOT blowing up.
I guess that fighter pilots just strafed the tank hoping someone other would drop a bomb on it so they get the kill...
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the WW is easy to turret with guns, thats a give in..
but it seems (at times at least) IMPOSABLE to destroy one with guns..
last night we were attacking a V base with jugs and bombers, all hangars down, 1 lone wirble on the base, he quickly gets turreted..
he drives over to the map room and just parks there..
for the next 10 miniutes.. I dont know how many aircraft pour everything they have into this guy.. there were at least 4 jugs who completely emptied their guns on him, 2 sets of 17s were making low passes strafing him, and a few odd other planes that were around..
every single one emptied all their guns.. many thousands of rounds in total on this guy.. untill everyone was empty..
by this point enemy fighters were getting close so the goon went ahead and dropped troops
sure enough the wirble sat there and killed every single on of them, then towered out, the VHs started popping and that was it..
I know its built on a panzer chassis.. but for gods sake..
The only thing I've seen fishy about the damage model on the WW is the fact that if one ups and the base gets taken, all the field acks cannot take out its turret. I saw one stay in the ack getting shot constantly and keep firing til someone dropped bomb on him. :rolleyes:
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Yeah i saw some ranting on 200 last night........from what i could gather someone died and got upset at someone and a peeing match ensued. (names are being withheld to protect fragile egos. + I think its against rules to postem.)
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Bring bombs or rockets. Or an Il-2, Hurricane Mk IId or B-25H.
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IL2 is favorite can opener.
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I must take the wrong WW.
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I've taken 6 or 7 solid AP shots from pzr to kill WW in the past, so I wasn't surprised to hear that. I don't care for the WW all that much though ~ they guns are kinda squirrely.
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You can pop a wirby turret easy with a lowly Spit I but the rest of it will take a dump truck load of punishment. On one occasion I hit one 8 times with a Tiger and the wirby still kept rolling. :huh
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Every Wirblewind I've shot at in a tank has died within 1-2 shells...
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I guess that fighter pilots just strafed the tank hoping someone other would drop a bomb on it so they get the kill...
Nothing I hate more than dropping a perfect egg only to hear some guy in a pony go "PANZER DOWN!!".
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HO'ing a wirbel in a fragile fighter is not exactly a good practice. I only do it when I can come down on top of it. A wirbel can chew up a level B-25H or an IL-2 let alone a fragile fighter.
I remember once I had 110s pound me to death in a wirbel, knocking me on my side and turreting me right in front of a map room. I killed 3 sets of troops with my hull MG anyways and prevented a base grab. :lol
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Nothing I hate more than dropping a perfect egg only to hear some guy in a pony go "PANZER DOWN!!".
The ones that strafe GV's I save my Egg for a different GV, or in a GV I just let the guy go.
Nothing more frustrating when your in a GV and someone goes around strafing all the tanks, and waits
for his kills.
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just watched the film of it, its 13 min, i arrive 3 min into it and he is already turreted and smoking.. the remaining 10 min is nothing but a conga line of jugs, bombers and a 190 or 2 just laying into this guy..
several of my passes were near vert firing directly down into the turret.
poop :cry
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just watched the film of it, its 13 min, i arrive 3 min into it and he is already turreted and smoking.. the remaining 10 min is nothing but a conga line of jugs, bombers and a 190 or 2 just laying into this guy..
several of my passes were near vert firing directly down into the turret.
poop :cry
At first i thought there was a mistaken belief that .50 cals should be able to kill a tank, but I think I see what you are driving at. The game does not appear to recognize the fact that the open turret would also mean an opening into the rest of the crew compartment . . .
In theory, the bullets bouncing around inside the hull should have (eventually) killed the rest of the crew and therefore killed the tank.
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Treat a wirble as to separate things, the turret and a chassis, one shot from a tank or shots from a fighter will take out the turret, but repeted shots to the turret from a tank wont kill it or "pop the top off" next shots should be at the chassis to kill it, (long shots at one youll most likly hit the chasis anyway)
I agree they take alot of rounds from planes and ive been in that spot waiting to be killed and get tired of it and tower out,
BTW SKYROCK field and town acks can turret a WW as easy as anything else, but i know what your saying there, one night LTARogue and i were taking down a town and an ack started firing and hitting me but when i stopped the rounds were missing the turret that should have takin me out as previous times when i got to close to an ack.
a really odd thing i seen one night, an enemy WW sitting beside a town ack and the ack was firing at every thing but him, seen it from my tank and got him but there must be a dead zone or something that an ack cant see.
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At first i thought there was a mistaken belief that .50 cals should be able to kill a tank, but I think I see what you are driving at. The game does not appear to recognize the fact that the open turret would also mean an opening into the rest of the crew compartment . . .
In theory, the bullets bouncing around inside the hull should have (eventually) killed the rest of the crew and therefore killed the tank.
Yes, that would have (eventually) killed the rest of the crew except for, the driver.
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Well sometimes you don't see that some guy's been strafing tanks and is just hanging around.
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Yes, that would have (eventually) killed the rest of the crew except for, the driver.
The driver's compartement is not completely enclosed to the rest of the chassis interior. The turret ring of the chassis is still open. Bullets could therefore theoretically enter the open turret, go through the turret ring into the chassis, and bounce around in the interior eventually hitting the driver too.
But in terms of the game, I personally think it is better that the turret and chassis are considered completely separate.
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only probhave with ww is that i NEVER even seem to turret them.... when im in 1, the turret gets taken out quick, but when im strafing them, it seems to do nothing... and thats using a 110 or a il2...
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Come in at as close to a 90 degree angle as you can on them. That comes with the added bonus of the WW not noticing you and/or the sun hiding you.
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WW are not impossible to kill, but it truly takes heavy cannon, and/or bombs to finish them. Someone counting on MG kills of a WW is asking a bit much. When attacking a WW surprise is more important than angle of attack. I have a lot of kills of planes at near 90 degrees, because I scan, fire, scan, fire. I will never stay on a single target for long, before scanning the sky for the next threat.