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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Mister Fork on June 08, 2008, 09:36:49 AM
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During the BOA, we expect all conduct to be fair, respectful, and reasonable.
5 Fair Play Rules
1. We ask that all players be respectful to one another in the Arena.
2. There is 0-Tolerance to any kind of smack-talk or taunting on any open channel.
3. There is 0-Tolerance to complaints about HO's, vulching, or 'unfair gameplay' that is disrespectful to other players on any open channel.
4. Three-strike offense system. First offense is a warn. Second is a mute. Third we ask you to leave. If player refuses, we eject.
5. Any player(s) found to be using an empty arena to advance their war effort without opposition is an offense - see rule 4.
Our intent is to trust everyone to be reasonable and respectful to one another. Break that trust, you will be asked to leave the arena. Any player that has an issue, please use the built-in .complain feature to report it to HTC support.
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See Rule #4
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Questions for number 5.
Is this meant to squash large off peak hour raids, or knock out the more casual off peak players.
Personally I am often on at off peak hours. I'll come into the Ava and find maybe 2-3 people in there. Usually 2-3v1-s for one side or the other.
If one side launches a mission and the other side logs off, does that mission then have to turn around and land?
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Noted, and a step in the right direction IMO.
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Questions for number 5.
Is this meant to squash large off peak hour raids, or knock out the more casual off peak players.
Personally I am often on at off peak hours. I'll come into the Ava and find maybe 2-3 people in there. Usually 2-3v1-s for one side or the other.
If one side launches a mission and the other side logs off, does that mission then have to turn around and land?
Good question Damionte. Rule 5 is meant to stop 5-10 players coordinating and sticking to one side to pummel their vacant opponent in an organized fashion - what we consider unreasonable player conduct. 2-3 players, is reasonable. Conversely, side CO are expected to defend their territories - war doesn't sleep and if they have players from a variety of time zones, the could coordinate their times in the arena. It all goes down to what is reasonable.
If a side logs as you're in the middle of a coordinated attack, the attack continues. It again goes back to what is reasonable. Sized are expected to defend their resources.
Hope this answers your question.
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Conversely, side CO are expected to defend their territories - war doesn't sleep
Understood.
Rules seem fair to me.
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See Rule #5
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So are these rules going to be enforced only against JG54, say like the forums violation 1 week time out, or will they be enforced for everyone? Just seeking clarification...
Yes :noid
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Hey, lets not target just JG 54. It goes for everybody. Allies do have a few bad apples too. and i do expet them to follow the rules too. If not, Mister Fork will get you.
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Thanks for the clarification, its 'official' all of JG54 are considered bad apples.
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(http://www.uselessgraphics.com/hobbit.gif) Okay, can we move on? Seems pretty much well understood by all, break rules and have consequences. :salute
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So are these rules going to be enforced only against JG54, say like the forums violation 1 week time out, or will they be enforced for everyone? Just seeking clarification...
We do not have any control over the BBS forum and we do not issue "time outs". You can take that up with Skuzzy.
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Thanks for the clarification, its 'official' all of JG54 are considered bad apples.
Ummm, i never say that all JG54 are bad apples
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i think the rules are great!! i think it will work out nicely. what id really like to know, is why, when i suggested rules of that nature, i was considered somewhat of a radical. i faced a barage of critisizm and now look, we have rules. imagine that. well i for one am all for them. just wish i hadnt been left to hang out to dry.
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i think the rules are great!! i think it will work out nicely. what id really like to know, is why, when i suggested rules of that nature, i was considered somewhat of a radical. i faced a barage of critisizm and now look, we have rules. imagine that. well i for one am all for them. just wish i hadnt been left to hang out to dry.
Behind every silver lining there's a grey cloud. ;)
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just to clarify, whining about hoing, vulching and ack running is frowned on, right. LOL
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thanks shifty, i knew i could count on you!! heheh :)
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See Rules #4, #5, #2
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support@hitechcreations.com
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Looks good here.
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i think the rules are great!! i think it will work out nicely. what id really like to know, is why, when i suggested rules of that nature, i was considered somewhat of a radical. i faced a barage of critisizm and now look, we have rules. imagine that. well i for one am all for them. just wish i hadnt been left to hang out to dry.
Are you dry and smell spring fresh after hanging out? :D
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why yes jester i am, spring fresh and minty fresh!! thanks for asking! now let the games begin!
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See Rules #4, #5, #2
Let's clear up something right now. There is no conspiracy against any squad in this forum. I have no idea who belongs to what and I could care less. If you post against the forums rules then it gets handled.
If it happens to be a high percentage of a squad, then it is purely coincidental.
I will also reiterate, abusing volunteers who give thier time to try and help provide players with different options to play the game will not be tolerated.
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IN :aok
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Out!
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I know the horse may be getting beat a little too much buuuutttt.......... I come on the arena every once in awhile, usually midday CST. Alot of the time there will be myself and maybe one other. If what I am understanding you to say is that a one person bombing raid would not be against the rules..it must be roughly 3 persons or more on one side that will constitute a rule violation?
I need to clarify cause I dont feel like gettin' put on tater peelin' duty by my CO instead of flyin'.
Thanks in advance.
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Good question Damionte. Rule 5 is meant to stop 5-10 players coordinating and sticking to one side to pummel their vacant opponent in an organized fashion - what we consider unreasonable player conduct. 2-3 players, is reasonable. Conversely, side CO are expected to defend their territories - war doesn't sleep and if they have players from a variety of time zones, the could coordinate their times in the arena. It all goes down to what is reasonable.
If a side logs as you're in the middle of a coordinated attack, the attack continues. It again goes back to what is reasonable. Sized are expected to defend their resources.
Hope this answers your question.
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so we can pork with 2-3 players, but not 5-10 is that correct. this is assuming no defenders. just asking for a clarification, not trying to start trouble.
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OK, this is just funny. These people are asking when is it OK to pork the fields and when it is not? Is that where the AvA got? Here is a thought, if you have no opposition, don't ask if it is OK to pork a field. No rule is needed. Just don't do it! Is that really too hard of a concept? What other games do you guys like to play and win by your selfs? :rofl
<S> on the rules and the eject ability. About time
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You can't expect two or three guys to sit in the tower until opposition shows up, so you can't prohibit them from finding something to do. The setup should prevent too much damage so long as no more than the allowed number are active. Push the limits and I'd expect consequences.
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You can't expect two or three guys to sit in the tower until opposition shows up, so you can't prohibit them from finding something to do. The setup should prevent too much damage so long as no more than the allowed number are active. Push the limits and I'd expect consequences.
I have to say somebody didn't think the rules of "The War" out to well. If you can't fly when you want or able to you are effectively driving people out of the AVA to other arenas when the point of BOA is to attract more players.
As a former member of the CT Staff I do like the idea of "The War" up to a point I also think we are getting away from the old set-ups where the maps changed every week and thus gave a "Change of scenery" and more people got to fly their favorite planes.
Just my $.02 :salute
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I think 3 guys in the Arena at 3:00 AM EST all working together to accomplish something is pretty rare, anyway. Planesets. We all need to get involved with the side budget sheets and try to include a good mix if possible. BoA is not theatre specific, with the plane choices. I too would like to see a wide range of maps attempted, and I think we will see that.
Hopefully, if we all reward those on our side for endeavoring to play this out above the boards, which is ultimately optimising the Fun Factor, and educate those on our sides, to what detriment their actions really cause, as they are often ignorant to it, then we are doing alot, and I don't think we will see alot of it.
Blatent BS will be dealt with. I think that is the message. Everything is in test mode, and the more input from the community we get, the better BoA2 will be, hopefully we get a positive snowballing effect.
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You can't expect two or three guys to sit in the tower until opposition shows up, so you can't prohibit them from finding something to do. The setup should prevent too much damage so long as no more than the allowed number are active. Push the limits and I'd expect consequences.
Until we see the war is played out, no one has any real idea of what is or isn't fair to the majority of the AvA players. There is an obvious strategy that comes to my mind that should at the very least dampen any off hour porking. I am pretty sure that Oakranger, RmRider and others have also thought of them. It is up to the individual players to listen for instructions and work together for a concerted effort or face the consequences.
I know the horse may be getting beat a little too much buuuutttt.......... I come on the arena every once in awhile, usually midday CST. Alot of the time there will be myself and maybe one other. If what I am understanding you to say is that a one person bombing raid would not be against the rules..it must be roughly 3 persons or more on one side that will constitute a rule violation?
I need to clarify cause I dont feel like gettin' put on tater peelin' duty by my CO instead of flyin'.
Thanks in advance.
All that I am saying is that we need to have objectives that are both fun and challenging. Playing in off hours will have its own challenges. I have a feeling that more players will be available from both sides in the tween hours than what we have been seeing in the pre Battle practice setups.
So, if you are logged on, you better be prepared to defend as well as strike. Your choice may just cost you your preferred ride in the next round. :D
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As far as rule #5 goes, we have guys from our squad flying every evening during prime time. If there is no enemy resistance during prime time hours, I consider that a mistake on their part and will continue on with the mission at hand.
On the other hand I totaly agree with rule #5 during off hours, but how will it effect paying customers on the west coast or on the islands?
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Easy to find the troglodytes.
They've been Skuzzyfied.
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So, if you are logged on, you better be prepared to defend as well as strike. Your choice may just cost you your preferred ride in the next round.
LOL..... I'll be checkin' my 6 brother! :aok
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I guess the rules are going threw a bending stage ?
Sad to say but that is how most willfeel after last nights CHAT attack
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Elaborate, please.
I assume, as per standards, that specifics, screenies, and or film have been sent to the CM's?
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Elaborate, please.
I assume, as per standards, that specifics, screenies, and or film have been sent to the CM's?
Not yet. Take a hint from VonMessa here, if there is no report to us then what do you expect to be done?
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We logged it by using the automatic chat report tool last night . About 10 of us .
We have screen shots also .But since I am at work I do not have access to my HTC folder.
I can send all of them in when I return 6 est time .
But if you go to the RADAR thread in AVA you will see others speaking of same .
Thx for the fast response
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Shoot me them when you get a shot Ocean. Let me know if the PM's are not working and I'll give you my email. :aok
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Ocean, best thing to do with screenies, film, etc.......
Email to yourself, or get some kind of free file storage account like photobucket, X-drive, etc. That way you can have unlimited access to your proof during the work day (unless your IT guys are complete control freaks) but not likely as your being allowed to post on a forum. I my case, I r teh I.T. guy at my work.
It helps, so you can give up any need proof at will to the CM's so they don't have to wait, and the issue doesn't go out of proportion by the time the day is half over. A lot of times, things can be fixed before you even come home from work, that way.
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LOL
Im on a seperate DSL line .
LOL
No access and lots of Firewalls
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Shoot me them when you get a shot Ocean. Let me know if the PM's are not working and I'll give you my email. :aok
I have sent you a PM
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Don't forget about the .complain feature too guys. Its there in case a staffer is not.
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So how does that work
.complain 33vortex ??? :huh
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Sorry - I meant .report gameID
That goes directly to Skuzzy. :salute
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That clarifies my Q. :aok
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I am sure we will all use it .
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hehe, here I thought I'd missed a dot command.
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During the BOA, we expect all conduct to be fair, respectful, and reasonable.
5 Fair Play Rules
1. We ask that all players be respectful to one another in the Arena.
2. There is 0-Tolerance to any kind of smack-talk or taunting on any open channel.
3. There is 0-Tolerance to complaints about HO's, vulching, or 'unfair gameplay' that is disrespectful to other players on any open channel.
4. Three-strike offense system. First offense is a warn. Second is a mute. Third we ask you to leave. If player refuses, we eject.
5. Any player(s) found to be using an empty arena to advance their war effort without opposition is an offense - see rule 4.
Our intent is to trust everyone to be reasonable and respectful to one another. Break that trust, you will be asked to leave the arena. Any player that has an issue, please use the built-in .report feature to report it to HTC support.
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Is the AvA general forum considered a "open channel"? If so, these rules need not only be followed, they need to be enforced. Pardon me but it's about time a forum admin picked up the ball.
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See the little button next to Reply.
Edit: Oops, it's 'Report to moderator', I couldn't see it once I started the reply.
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A needed bump. (sadly).
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A needed bump. (sadly).
same :(