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Title: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: bongaroo on June 09, 2008, 07:57:20 PM
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/speedy420/unidentified.jpg)

I haven't been able to figure it out.  It has USAF marked on the tail.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: PFactorDave on June 09, 2008, 07:58:16 PM
OV-10 Bronco I think

Here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-10_Bronco
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Bronk on June 09, 2008, 07:59:36 PM
OV-10 Bronco I think

Correct, give that man a cigar.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: bongaroo on June 09, 2008, 09:41:47 PM
Thank you very much good sirs!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Captfish on June 09, 2008, 10:13:01 PM
Cool plane, :aok its got that I'm ugly but my cannons are going to destroy you look  :rock
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 09, 2008, 10:16:14 PM
My most favorite plane ever made.
Stubby lil' wings, tons of ords, and four m60's bangin' away in gun pods.


Abit under powered, she is still a beauty.  :salute
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Hornet33 on June 09, 2008, 10:39:51 PM
Made by Rockwell Aviation, the same people that brought you the B-1B Bomber. The OV-10 has been built in several models. I seem to recall one version mounted 2 20mm cannons on the inboard pylons but I might be thinking of anouther plane. NASA has one at the Langley Research Center. I see that one flying every now and then. Pretty plane with the white and blue paint job NASA has on it.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: MajWoody on June 09, 2008, 11:54:44 PM
It was a FAC in the later years of the Vietnam War, as well as close air supt for some seal units there.








Edit
I see that the Wikipedia link already tells about its rolls in Vietnam.  :o
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: MajIssue on June 10, 2008, 10:10:14 AM
OV-10 Bronco I think

Here's a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-10_Bronco

correct sir
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Cthulhu on June 10, 2008, 10:53:59 AM
Always thought the NOGS with FLIR & 20mm turret were cool. Nice when your FAC can stay up all night with you. :)
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5480/ov10noguw0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: wrongwayric on June 10, 2008, 11:16:12 AM
They used to drop Special Forces troops out of the back of that thing! The little bubble area would open, inside lying on top of each other would be the troops, they'd pull straight up and the troops would just fall out! I had a Marine Sargeant Major that was Recon in Vietnam and he was telling me about it. He said he did it 2 times on volunteer missions and never wanted to do it again after that.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Pannono on June 10, 2008, 01:49:06 PM
how about this one?
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/plane.jpg)
a man who knows his military aircraft should get this one no problem
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: gweibe on June 10, 2008, 02:19:42 PM
Northrop YA-9
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Pannono on June 10, 2008, 02:21:44 PM
very good!
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Post by: Wingnutt on June 10, 2008, 11:40:10 PM
its ugly and its flying over a quilt.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Pannono on June 11, 2008, 02:05:21 AM
this one
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/planes.jpg)
a little harder
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: gripen on June 11, 2008, 02:51:25 AM
La-15
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Post by: Pannono on June 11, 2008, 10:53:21 AM
very good!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Noir on June 11, 2008, 11:01:50 AM
NEXT

(http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/DSCN1612.JPG)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Noir on June 11, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
BONUS : another interesting view of the OZ-10 Bronco, used by the Luftwaffe for training.

(http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/DSCN1675.JPG)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Motherland on June 11, 2008, 12:07:24 PM
NEXT

(http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/DSCN1612.JPG)
Well... the plane in the background is a Ju52... dunno about the one in the foreground though... looks Russian?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Pannono on June 11, 2008, 12:23:03 PM
i have no idea either
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Noir on June 11, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
another view of the plane, I don't know either I forgot  :rolleyes:

(http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/DSCN1601.JPG)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Wolfala on June 11, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
another view of the plane, I don't know either I forgot  :rolleyes:

(http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/DSCN1601.JPG)

Beech 18?

Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Noir on June 11, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
Beech 18?



that looks pretty close

(http://www.a3a.org/Image/arriveebeech/c45f.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Cthulhu on June 11, 2008, 12:48:25 PM
C-45
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Noir on June 11, 2008, 12:57:23 PM
C-45 and Beech 18 are the same plane, so I guess you guys found it) wtg
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Post by: Furball on June 11, 2008, 01:41:40 PM
Spitfire!

shamelessly stolen from Arlo.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 11, 2008, 01:43:28 PM
Wish i had my book, i could tell you what it is.


The americans had two planes that looked very much the same as that, but they at least had armament.
And i think operated in the PTO more so than anywhere.


Wish i could remember they're names.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 11, 2008, 01:48:36 PM
Yup, found muh book.

The two planes i was thinkin' of were the A-29 (Lockheed Model 414) Hudson

and the B-34 Ventura.


Realy interesting plans, look them up. ;)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Cthulhu on June 11, 2008, 04:53:03 PM
Yup, found muh book.

The two planes i was thinkin' of were the A-29 (Lockheed Model 414) Hudson

and the B-34 Ventura.


Realy interesting plans, look them up. ;)
Actually Lockheed had quite a few aircraft from the 30's that match this configuration. Look at the Electra and Electra Junior.

Also, Just for grins, take a look at John Wayne's "Flying Tigers". If memory serves, I think that's a C-45 that's used to drop their "nitro"" bombs on the Japanese train. Nothing like 1942 special effects. :)
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Jester on June 11, 2008, 09:46:15 PM
Also, Just for grins, take a look at John Wayne's "Flying Tigers". If memory serves, I think that's a C-45 that's used to drop their "nitro"" bombs on the Japanese train. Nothing like 1942 special effects. :)

Nope, that is a CAPELIS XC-12

Capelis
Safety Airplane Corp, Oakland Airport and El Cerrito CA.

(http://aerofiles.com/capelis.jpg)

XC-12 1933 = 12pClwM rg*; two 525hp Wright Cyclone; span: 55'0" length: 42'0" load: 3000# v: 220/190/65. Dr John E Younger; POP: 1 [X12762]. All-metal; triple biplane tail; *partly-retracting gear, which extended automatically when the throttle was closed. Funded by local Greek restaurateurs as a promotional aircraft, and constructed with help from University of California students. US patent #1,745,600 issued to Socrates H Capelis, of El Cerrito, in 1930 (a modified application for patent of the design with a half-span dorsal wing and two more engines appears in 1932). The main spar was bolted together, and much of the skin attached with P-K screws rather than rivets. These tended to vibrate loose, requiring tightening or replacing every few flights. Promotional tours were soon abandoned, and its career ended as a movie prop, appearing in ground roles* in several motion pictures ("Five Came Back" 1939, "Flying Tigers" 1942, others) before reportedly being scrapped c.1943. * Flying shots in films were of a model; the plane itself was grounded by the studio's insurance company.

You have Capelis XC-12 as scrapped c. 1943. I've seen this elsewhere, so I was surprised when I watched the Columbia 1950 release "On the Isle of Samoa" on TCM, which featured both the model and the full-scale ship. So it appears the old bird lasted longer than has been suggested! (— William Villan 4/7/07)

Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Cthulhu on June 12, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
Nope, that is a CAPELIS XC-12
Thanks Jester, I remember that funky empennage now. That's quite a rare bird. I especialy like the self-extendng gear. :rolleyes: Was there only one built?
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this plane?
Post by: Jester on June 12, 2008, 08:55:53 AM
(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/5609/capza9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Nope, only one made - and by the description it was dangerious enough!   :D 

The original was redone for another movie but the Film Studio's Insurance Company grounded the aircraft. Even in the FLYING TIGERS movie it was actually pulled around the area where the filming was done.

Another Version of the Story......

"At school we used the text "Structural Design of Metal Airplanes" by Younger and in it was a construction photo of a strange airplane, the same ugly hulk of which was parked off the tarmac just south east of the terminal at Glendale." Herb

According to Aerofiles: Capelis Safety Airplane Corp, Oakland Airport and El Cerrito CA. Capelis XC-12 [X12762] with fake tail number for a motion picture; that's Mr Capelis holding a yardstick. Site is Grand Central Air Terminal, Glendale CA (RKO via Paul Mantz collection) Capelis XC-12 Revised cockpit and windows (Frank Rezich coll) Capelis XC-12 Oakland Airport (William T Larkins) XC-12 1933 = 12pClwM rg*; two 525hp Wright Cyclone; span: 55'0" length: 42'0" load: 3000# v: 220/190/65. Dr John E Younger; POP: 1 [X12762]. All-metal; triple biplane tail; partly-retracting gear, which extended automatically when the throttle was closed. Funded by local Greek restaurateurs as a promotional aircraft, and constructed with help from University of California students. US patent #1,745,600 issued to Socrates H Capelis, of El Cerrito, in 1930 (a modified application for patent of the design with a half-span dorsal wing and two more engines appears in 1932). The main spar was bolted together, and much of the skin attached with P-K screws rather than rivets. These tended to vibrate loose, requiring tightening or replacing every few flights. Promotional tours were soon abandoned, and its career ended as a movie prop, appearing in ground roles in several motion pictures ("Five Came Back" 1939, "Flying Tigers" 1942, others) before being scrapped c.1943. Flying shots in films were of a model; the plane itself was grounded by the studio's insurance company.

Capelis XC-12: flown to GCA from OAK via Fresno by Jack Beilby, Mose's right-hand man. The X-12 made a wheels-up landing at Fresno, with little damage and Jack continued on to GCA. Never flew again, but was extensively modified (windshield, etc.) for movie work by Timm."

" P-K screws!! Like my Cessna --- but it gave me something to do cross-country." Herb