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Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Vermillion on March 09, 2001, 06:18:00 AM
Hey Ronni

I just looked at the squad rankings for the first time since you went over to the new format.

Very nice.

Now, I'm not a "score" type of person, but I thought it strange that of the top 5 squads, two of them had 5 members or less, and of the top 10 squads, 3 or 4 of them had 5 members or less.

Those aren't squads  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) those are exclusive boys clubs designed to put their name in the top rankings.  

Even if your only above average pilots, if theres only two or three of you, its easy to get ranked high compared to 30 people squads that have people of all skill levels.

Anyways.... I would suggest that you have some minimum number of active pilots (flown 5 sorties this tour) to qualify for the squad rankings. My suggestion would be 5-7.



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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Staga on March 09, 2001, 06:31:00 AM
So squad ranking doesn't fit to your squad and you want HTC to change it?
I have a feeling I've heard that before  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Staga
Gefechtsverband Kowalewski
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: nonoht on March 09, 2001, 07:29:00 AM
with 28 members  
56th FIREBIRDS RAF   is ranked 29th


just for info...
i hate that a 3 guys squad ranked in first places

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nono
56th (Fighter) FIREBIRDS RAF
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Vermillion on March 09, 2001, 07:47:00 AM
No staga it means a squad is a squad, not 2 pilots trying to get to the top of the heap.

Go look at the rankings and you will see what I'm talking about.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Staga on March 09, 2001, 08:34:00 AM
In our squad there is only two fellows; Jochen and me.
What I can say is we both try to kill as many Rooks and Bishes as we can and also destroy your bases if possible (looks like we have succeeded doing that too  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)).
 
Why do you want to close us out from squad rankings ?
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 09, 2001, 08:38:00 AM
The trend I've seen is this:

If you have more in your squad, your overall squad performance is lower due to 4 or 5 that may be 'new' or not as experienced, thus bringing the overall avg down.  Squads that have fewer players have done well from what I've witnessed since coming to AH.

But, rankings mean nothing to me, since I know who's number 1 in my heart, the friends that I fly with!

[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 03-09-2001).]
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Jochen on March 09, 2001, 08:42:00 AM
Gee Staga, looks like we should step up the recruiting efforts a bit! :-O

Well vermin, if your squad does not rank well in global competition I suggest streamlining your organization. Let underachievers go and concentrate to your squads main focus areas and improving competence level of your existing core staff.

Is this squad ranking a new feature? I havent seen it earlier. Quite suprise my little squad was that high  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87D, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Westy on March 09, 2001, 09:02:00 AM
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[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 03-09-2001).]
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Pongo on March 09, 2001, 09:23:00 AM
Ya its silly.
one mad squads in the rankings. 2 man squads..
The squad rankings are for SQUADS.
Guys that have not flown should count as the lowest in every catagory.
If you dont have 8 guys your score should have lowest score for the guys your missing.
IE 2 guys get 6 lowest score equivilents added to their roster.
The squad page has to be intended to show how good a GROUP of players you can get together and develop. Not wether you and your buddy are hot sticks. And not whether you personaly are Booky!...bugger...
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Staga on March 09, 2001, 09:57:00 AM
Personally I dont give a toejam about rankings so if its so tough place for some of you guys to not see your squad in a top-ten keep on whining and maybe HTC changes the way to count rankings.
Its little bit amusing to look how ppl want to change rules to fit in their own agenda  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: AKDejaVu on March 09, 2001, 04:08:00 PM
The AKs used to believe that squads should be ranked on cumulative length.  Unfortunately, we were still losing to 2 man squads... so we like the current system better.

AKDejaVu
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Fatty on March 09, 2001, 05:40:00 PM
...and why is there no beer catagory?
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Pongo on March 09, 2001, 05:41:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Staga:
Personally I dont give a toejam about rankings so if its so tough place for some of you guys to not see your squad in a top-ten keep on whining and maybe HTC changes the way to count rankings.
Its little bit amusing to look how ppl want to change rules to fit in their own agenda   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)


Ya sure you dont care Staga. I find it a bit ammusing that you and your buddy get rated as a squad by a loop hole and you get in here and defend the status quo cause the status quo says you have great squad. You don't, you have a great wingman. We have one pilot with 2 canceled accounts and himself in a squad as the top ranked squad and you dont see a problem? Can we at least agree that there should be more then one active pilot in a squad?
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Sunchaser on March 09, 2001, 08:18:00 PM
I had no idea 1 member aquads were even in the rankings and they should not be, no way.

Was there not a minimum limit awhile back for a squad to be ranked?

I thought it was 7 members at least.


Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: hblair on March 10, 2001, 02:55:00 AM
How bout different categories...

1. Squads with 5-10 members
2. Squads with 10-20 member
3. Squads with above 20 members

I have to agree that *squads* with 1-2 members competing with 20 member squads is pitched in favor of the two wingmen.

I'm sure ronni will figure it out. This is a small task for her.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: ET on March 10, 2001, 08:38:00 AM
I agree with HBlair.Should be simple enough to do rankings by squad size.
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: bloom25 on March 11, 2001, 10:34:00 PM
Kind of unfair if you ask me.  Our squad has recently lost many members due to a number of reasons.  (Loecash had to leave.  Tom24's wife is pregnant.  Mathman rejoined his original squad.  Pollock and Sg created a new squad.)  That just leaves Wolf37, griz, and myself.  We are certainly a squad, we fly together and have been around longer than 99% of all AH squads.  (Formed about 2 weeks into beta 1.)

Even though we don't fly for score, should we be excluded from being included in the rankings just because we only have 3 members?  It doesn't seem right to me...




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bloom25
THUNDERBIRDS
Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Ripsnort on March 12, 2001, 08:41:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by hblair:
How bout different categories...

1. Squads with 5-10 members
2. Squads with 10-20 member
3. Squads with above 20 members

I have to agree that *squads* with 1-2 members competing with 20 member squads is pitched in favor of the two wingmen.

I'm sure ronni will figure it out. This is a small task for her.   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Great suggestion!~

Title: Squad Rankings, 5 Active Member Minimum for Eligibility?
Post by: Pongo on March 12, 2001, 09:04:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by bloom25:
Kind of unfair if you ask me.  Our squad has recently lost many members due to a number of reasons.  (Loecash had to leave.  Tom24's wife is pregnant.  Mathman rejoined his original squad.  Pollock and Sg created a new squad.)  That just leaves Wolf37, griz, and myself.  We are certainly a squad, we fly together and have been around longer than 99% of all AH squads.  (Formed about 2 weeks into beta 1.)

Even though we don't fly for score, should we be excluded from being included in the rankings just because we only have 3 members?  It doesn't seem right to me...



Well you shouldnt be ranked as a squad. Get ranked as what you are. An element or rotte.