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Title: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: BillyD on June 12, 2008, 02:06:40 AM
Historically she could carry this brute ;) 1814 kgs of Love from above
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Furball on June 12, 2008, 02:11:36 AM
We have the wrong version, that was the bomber mossie... which means we need that added :D

(http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpapers/1941/105mosquitoiv800.jpg)

This is a IV, a B.35 would be nice!

Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Bruv119 on June 12, 2008, 02:14:25 AM
the bomber mossie could carry up to 6 smaller bombs,  guns were removed though to lessen weight,

id like to see the tse tse myself  :cool:
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Karnak on June 12, 2008, 02:19:24 AM
It isn't so much that guns were removed as that guns were added to the fighter versions.

The Mosquito B.Mk XVI would be my choice for late war and the B.Mk IV for the early and mid war.  Probably have to perk the B.Mk IV in early war and possibly the B.Mk XVI in lat war.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Jester on June 12, 2008, 08:16:58 AM
Though not much on flying the British Bombers I do believe the Bomber "Skeeter" needs to be added and would be well used in the arenas.

We also need the "Cookie" for all the British Bombers that will handle it.

 :salute
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Cthulhu on June 12, 2008, 08:56:40 AM
id like to see the tse tse myself  :cool:
Ditto. Mk XVIII would be very cool. :aok That thing fired at 75 rds per min. Might actually allow "Wirble farming". :D
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Yossarian on June 12, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
Go Mosquitos!!!
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 12, 2008, 08:30:03 PM
First, I say fix the Mossi FB Mk VI.  I believe the case has been made very thoroughly and with plenty of evidence for bumping the top speed up 15mph or so across all alt levels.

Then, I say add the Mossi B Mk XVI. 

I think allowing the best bomber version of the Mossi the ability to show what it really can do with the high speed and good medium bomber payload (3-4K), AND correcting the FB Mk VI speed would give this legendary plane its rightful place in the AHII arena instead of looked upon as an easy kill in any sense.

I dont think we need the Mk XVIII.  ;)  The other ground pounder planes with large guns dont seem to be worth their while (Hurri IID, B25, etc) and a Mossi with a 57mm AT cannon made for anti-shipping isnt going to fare any better.   
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Bronk on June 12, 2008, 08:50:28 PM
The other ground pounder planes with large guns dont seem to be worth their while (Hurri IID, B25, etc)
LMAO
Jump in a tiger and watch how fast a 2d will take you out.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: RTHolmes on June 13, 2008, 04:02:11 AM
i think the Tsetse would be pretty devastating against ground targets: 50+ rpm of shells which could one-shot a Tiger in a fast and manouverable airframe. reported 33% acc against tank sized targets in training :aok

fantastic video of tsetse firing here: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-a8U1QWUw (http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-a8U1QWUw)  :D
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: RoGenT on June 13, 2008, 04:39:13 AM
IN  :aok
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: RTHolmes on June 13, 2008, 05:01:39 AM
thinking about it, the mossie graphic model must be on the list for an update anyway (theres also a good case for removing the dampers) so adding a  B.V or B.XVI (perked, with formations surely?) and a FB.XVIII shouldnt be that much extra work...
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Karnak on June 13, 2008, 09:57:44 AM
Remember, only 28 Mk XVIIIs were built.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: RTHolmes on June 13, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
didnt realise it was that few, ive seen footage of them a few times so assumed they must have been used a fiar bit, i guess the effects of wartime propaganda last a long time :)
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Karnak on June 13, 2008, 02:36:58 PM
didnt realise it was that few, ive seen footage of them a few times so assumed they must have been used a fiar bit, i guess the effects of wartime propaganda last a long time :)
They saw very heavy use for how few there were.

They also had 800lbs of additional armor compared to the base FB,Mk VI they were based on.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 13, 2008, 03:43:04 PM
LMAO
Jump in a tiger and watch how fast a 2d will take you out.

I've been on the giving and receiving end of the IID in multiple encounters. Unless the vehicle is soft skinned, the IID is no more effective than any other of the air to ground cannons.  The IID's 40mm HE cannons are no more of a  threat to the Tiger than the 23mm AP connons on an IL-2.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Bronk on June 13, 2008, 03:53:53 PM
I've been on the giving and receiving end of the IID in multiple encounters. Unless the vehicle is soft skinned, the IID is no more effective than any other of the air to ground cannons.  The IID's 40mm HE cannons are no more of a  threat to the Tiger than the 23mm AP connons on an IL-2.
Tiger is all but impervious to the Il-2 guns, exception....treads.  I have killed tigers with one trigger tap from the 2-d.  Not often mind you but I have done it. When I'm in the zone.. 1st pass smoking tiger... 2nd pass dead tiger.

Want proof  give me a time and place and I'll gladly burn up your perks for you.


Edit: Ohh and BTW you can one shot kill tigers in a B-25 also.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Motherland on June 13, 2008, 03:58:29 PM
The IID's 40mm HE cannons are no more of a  threat to the Tiger than the 23mm AP connons on an IL-2.
They're AP. And they're much more effective. Especially when Lusche is in the Hurricane :uhoh
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 14, 2008, 03:28:03 PM
They're AP. And they're much more effective. Especially when Lusche is in the Hurricane :uhoh

I'm under the impression that the IID's 40mm cannons fire HE rounds and not AP.  How many can comment on this?  It seems to me from what I have seen (far more deflection shots) and from what I have heard (other pilots complaining/testimony) and read (HTC trainer's site) that they are HE.

Anyone else care to comment on this?

Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Bronk on June 14, 2008, 03:44:24 PM
I'm under the impression that the IID's 40mm cannons fire HE rounds and not AP.  How many can comment on this?  It seems to me from what I have seen (far more deflection shots) and from what I have heard (other pilots complaining/testimony) and read (HTC trainer's site) that they are HE.

Anyone else care to comment on this?


Ap boyo.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Jester on June 14, 2008, 04:42:09 PM
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Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: thrila on June 14, 2008, 04:49:38 PM
From my own experience flying the hurri 2d in-game, it will kill tigers easily. I've never had any trouble killing a tiger when in a 45+ degree dive. The only vehicle that i seem to trouble with is the t34.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: Lusche on June 14, 2008, 04:58:55 PM
I've been on the giving and receiving end of the IID in multiple encounters. Unless the vehicle is soft skinned, the IID is no more effective than any other of the air to ground cannons.  The IID's 40mm HE cannons are no more of a  threat to the Tiger than the 23mm AP connons on an IL-2.

To carry on with this hijack: Our Hurri-IID is firing AP shells only, just like they usually did in North Africa. To my knowledge the usage of HE was more prevalent in the Far East.

As it it was said before, the HurriD can easily kill a Tiger in Ah2. Before the Wirbelwind was introduced, I routinely took the Hurri up for some tank bustin' base defense. Tigers, Panzers, Shermans were easy meat, only T-34's were quite difficult to kill.

If you're going foe a instant kill on the Tiger instead of the usual engine/turret combo, you have to get an almost vertical hit on the driver's compartment, a difficult shot. If you do not want to risk it, steep angled attacks on engine or turret top deck are the way to go.
Title: Re: 4000 lb bomb for Mossie
Post by: SD67 on June 14, 2008, 09:06:50 PM
The tze tze would be an awesome buff killer too. Imagine hanging back at D1.5k and getting one ping kills :lol