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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Adonai on June 12, 2008, 11:04:19 AM
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Would like to take have a pair of MG 151/20 in the nose of a 109 instead of 13mm in a 109G-14 and no Hub Cannon
or secondly a Mk103 Hub Mounted instead of MK108 - perked Take out the 13mm and add more ammo for Mk103
I would say 225 rounds of MK103 ammo with no 13MM for cowling, just a single 30mm - would definally be fun!
No idea why they didn't try the twin Mg 151/20 mount
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Uhhhh....
Because they don't fit.
Same for the Mk103. It's considerably larger than the Mk108. As-is the MG151/20 gun protrudes between the pilot's feet into the cockpit (that's what the bump is between the rudder pedals).
Not realistic, sorry.
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So you've been flying 109s for two weeks and you already want to change them? How about flying just one version of the 109 for six months and get back to us then on what you might consider to be realistic?
<S>...-Gixer
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Uhhhh....
Because they don't fit.
+1
Would be neat to see an internal, wing mounted 151 or FF option ala Galland's Franz mod.
Gondola firepower without the drag.
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Not MG151, only MG/FF. Not nearly as effective as 1x 20mm MG151/20 in the nose, but hey I wouldn't argue for that plus the nose gun (yeah, yeah, I know, rare, 1 plane only, not standard, etc, etc)
What I really want is the twin MG151/20 pod under each wing for the 190A-5 and A-8. Relatively rare, but I'd love to see it on the JG11 A-5 skin (which historically flew with it!). Weight/drag penalties would balance out the increased firepower, but still it would be damn cool for bomber hunting!!!
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Schrage <sp> muzik in the 110 so I could strafe toolsheds while inverted.
Rockets for the Hurri (although I think we need a different model to sport that wing- hint)
Rockets for 262s
More LW gun packages in general
Tiny Tims for the blue plane dorks
Rockets for the Russian fighters
Stupidbakers with rocket racks
Rockets for everything that fired a rocket in wartime
etc etc
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No barbettes & gunner equipment on the 410 (we know it's coming!), 8x20mm too..
Paddle blade prop for the 47s that don't have it yet..
Only 20mm's on the A5 (I think..)
Optional GM1 on the 152
Tracers: choice of color/placement in the belts..
12x303 on the Hurricane II.
Some sorta trailer for the 251, carrying more supplies.
(Perked) realistic amount of cargo for the C47 (~20 troops IIRC)...
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12x303 on the Hurricane II.
I'm drooling over this...
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how about a hospital on the field with some drop dead gorgous nurses with big guns!
<S> 999000...oh man was I talkign outloud again...................
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I'm drooling over this...
Same here.
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10 troops is a gameplay decision, not a historical limit. Hitech said something like "We can make it carry 20 troops, but we'll also up the capture requirement to be the same" and I think also something similar "We can enable formations on c47s, but will also up the requirement for capture to 30" -- it's a gameplay function designed around the mechanics of field capture in the game as it stands, not a historical basis.
Since when did paratroopers go in and capture airfields? When did they walk into a map room and suddenly all the stuff around it belongs to allies? It's not meant to be compared to real troops in WW2.
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Perkable sunglasses for the sun.
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More than 10 troops as a perk loadout.. I think stuffing in as many troopers as possible would have been a pretty easy field mod :P
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Field mod you say?
Russian boost settings for the P-39. :aok
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Rockets for 262s
Absolutely :aok
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Russian Vodka for the P-39.
...Oh wait.
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So you've been flying 109s for two weeks and you already want to change them? How about flying just one version of the 109 for six months and get back to us then on what you might consider to be realistic?
<S>...-Gixer
That your only motive on this BBS to be a complete Troll? I see what your good at.
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Uhhhh....
Because they don't fit.
Same for the Mk103. It's considerably larger than the Mk108. As-is the MG151/20 gun protrudes between the pilot's feet into the cockpit (that's what the bump is between the rudder pedals).
Not realistic, sorry.
What I read about the Rheinmetall-Borsig MK 103 was it was lighter, faster firing and higher velocity then the Mk108 but never checked into see why it was never developed. I do know the Mk 103m would of fit just fine in the hub area but don't think the version was produced if in any numbers or even to late in the war to be developed on a mass scale.
Would like to see Ju87-G Modification added to the game, Stuka-G added with pair of 37mm under wings with 12 rounds of tungsten ammo.
However don't think this would be added since we have Hurri-D already and Il-2 but would be interesting enough for fun to add.
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Ju87G is far and above what the hurr2d is. It's not a modification, it's a standalone version. Been wished for a lot. Would be welcomed by many, despised by many (GVers).
Also, the Mk103 was considerably heavier MUCH longer (would not fit in the engine of 109s, for example, possibly was planned to be squeazed into a Ta152 which had more room, but never was), and this is why it had better trajectory (longer barrel, among other reasons).
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Should add player controlled 5" gun at factories and 2 at HQ.
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Ju87G is far and above what the hurr2d is. It's not a modification, it's a standalone version. Been wished for a lot. Would be welcomed by many, despised by many (GVers).
Also, the Mk103 was considerably heavier MUCH longer (would not fit in the engine of 109s, for example, possibly was planned to be squeazed into a Ta152 which had more room, but never was), and this is why it had better trajectory (longer barrel, among other reasons).
was it 1000mm longer? what about weight? I read it was double that of 108 but never checked
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According to wiki;
Mk103;
Weight:145kg
Length:2335mm
Mk108
Weight:58 kg
Length:1057mm
The Mk103 was over twice as long and near 3 times as heavy.
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It fired slower than the 108, too.
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No barbettes & gunner equipment on the 410 (we know it's coming!), 8x20mm too..
Paddle blade prop for the 47s that don't have it yet..
Only 20mm's on the A5 (I think..)
Optional GM1 on the 152
Tracers: choice of color/placement in the belts..
12x303 on the Hurricane II.
Some sorta trailer for the 251, carrying more supplies.
(Perked) realistic amount of cargo for the C47 (~20 troops IIRC)...
All of this and a quad fifty mounted on the tower.
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Was it the P51H that had the cannons? Thats what I want. And aircraft factories. Depending on how much the factory is down would dictate just how many 5.0 eny planes are allowed up at one time. :D
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Was it the P51H that had the cannons? Thats what I want. And aircraft factories. Depending on how much the factory is down would dictate just how many 5.0 eny planes are allowed up at one time. :D
it was 4 x hispanos
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And aircraft factories. Depending on how much the factory is down would dictate just how many 5.0 eny planes are allowed up at one time. :D
now THAT sounds like a plan
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That your only motive on this BBS to be a complete Troll? I see what your good at.
:lol that's the pot calling the kettle black if ever I saw it.
<S>...-Gixer
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Was it the P51H that had the cannons? Thats what I want. And aircraft factories. Depending on how much the factory is down would dictate just how many 5.0 eny planes are allowed up at one time. :D
nope, the 51H had 6 .50's
the one with quad hispano's was an early Allison engined version that the brits used for ground attack.
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1 20mm in the nose of the P40E
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1 20mm in the nose of the P40E
Impossible. You couldn't put a gun through either the Merlin or Allison. The Daimler Benz 600 series and French Hispano-Suiza 12Y series (the VK series in the Yakolevs is based on the Hispano-Suiza) were both designed from the ground up to do so.
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P38s that have the option to carry 6 .50 cals... yes, they existed.
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Just a small list of the things I'd like to see.
- All the R packages (Depending on the model) for all the German planes
- The early A-20G with the 4 20mm's in the nose
- The fixed forward firing Mg FF on the Ju88
- The Mosquito with the 4,000lbs "cookie" bomb doors
- The early rockets on the A-20's and B-25's
- Did I mention the early A-20G with the 4 20mm's in the nose?
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I'd like to see battle damage left in place for a while during a fight, where a gv has been killed a burning hulk, a downed bomber, airplane parts scatterd on runways, bits of buildings and such lying about the feild, would be great for filming.
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Impossible. You couldn't put a gun through either the Merlin or Allison. The Daimler Benz 600 series and French Hispano-Suiza 12Y series (the VK series in the Yakolevs is based on the Hispano-Suiza) were both designed from the ground up to do so.
Ok...how bout duct taped on the wings?
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Ok...how bout duct taped on the wings?
Thats "hundred mph tape", Thats what we called it in the Army, I never did hear why it was called that tho, I heard some pretty strange reasons, don't think any of them were right.
Does anyone know?
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The big thing when I was in was being sent to get a roll of flight line.
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The big thing when I was in was being sent to get a roll of flight line.
a can of rotowash, or a box of grid squares
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Thats "hundred mph tape", Thats what we called it in the Army, I never did hear why it was called that tho, I heard some pretty strange reasons, don't think any of them were right.
Does anyone know?
I know,but I'm not telling... :devil
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- Rear-view mirrors for the Spits and Stangs.
- Jeep with towable Howie
- Individually controllable Destoyers with all AAA similiar to bomber control plus controllable front two and rear 5" guns
- Stuka JU-87 G-2
:salute
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- The early A-20G with the 4 20mm's in the nose
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- The early rockets on the A-20's and B-25's
- Did I mention the early A-20G with the 4 20mm's in the nose?
I nearly hyperventilated when I read that....
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At least 2 - 5" manned guns on small airfields 4 on medium and 6 on large :rock "cap killers"
oops i thought this was a "field mod's thread not a plane mods.<S>
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THIS SHOULD BE POSTED IN THE WISH LIST COLUMN
WANNA BET IT GETS MOVED :aok
BTW ID LIKE TO SEE BIGGER TASKS FORCE AS IN 2 CVS
OOOO ALSO ID LIKE TO SEE 999000 GET BANNED HES TO CARTOONY :devil
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Yossarian, grab your paper bag and check this out!
(http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/A-20G-1-DO.JPG)
They were replaced (by 6 50's) after the block 1 aircraft due to low rate of fire and poor accuracy. This is from 'McDonnell Douglas Aircraft since 1920: Volume 1' by Rene J Francillon on page 280.
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I'd like to see battle damage left in place for a while during a fight, where a gv has been killed a burning hulk, a downed bomber, airplane parts scatterd on runways, bits of buildings and such lying about the feild, would be great for filming.
+1 I have often thought it would be great if destroyed GVs were left on the battlefield. To avoid cluttering up a popular area too much they could disappear after a given length of time. 15 minutes maybe.
They would also provide some cool cover. Until they disappeared. hehehe
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4x20mm Spits (particularily the V) as a perk option.
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4x20mm Spits (particularily the V) as a perk option.
that would be a nice option to see - Spit V not being an over powered Model - guns with tip balance making it a really formable foe to deal with,
Now i dunno how the perk option would work but I think they could find a way to make it so you have the option of having
the standard gun package, and for perks you can choose to take off with the extra guns. Don't know if anyone can clarify if this is possible or not?
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Yea I might have a suggestion Make the planes harder, more difficult for someone to fly, as they were in real life. Their handling is too dam easy. The real F-16 flight sim that the air force pilots are trained is more difficult than this. Get rid of the fly-by-wire sense of flight. The “numbers" are all by the book but the sense…
Maybe im wrong, but that’s my feeling about it.
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The real F-16 flight sim that the air force pilots are trained is more difficult than this.
I would hope so considering the PC power we are running this GAME on.
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quad cannon Spits were used in the med. Yes please.
And a Spixteen (or a Mk IX with the CCC modding rather) with +25 boost...well wouldn't be much of a problem for HTC. Would probably need to be perked, although being from...1943?
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quad cannon Spits were used in the med. Yes please.
And a Spixteen (or a Mk IX with the CCC modding rather) with +25 boost...well wouldn't be much of a problem for HTC. Would probably need to be perked, although being from...1943?
Thought only the 1943 Mk VC's were cropped, clipped and clapped?
Yup on the 25lbs for the XVI, in fact get rid of the XVI tag and call it what it is - LF IXe. (first use 25lbs May 1944, but current 'e' wing would push it to June/July 1944)
Increase XIV to 21lbs and give it a bubble canopy, at least make the perkies worth something.
Get rid of the frankenstein Seafire and replace with either an LIIc (most common II) or better still LIII (highest number built of any Seafire model).
What I'd really like to see for Spits -
The ability to choose in the hanger whether you want std, clipped or extended tips, and to make it easier tie an appropriate Merlin to them.
i.e For
LF IX - Clipped/unclipped + Merlin 66
F IX - Std + Merlin 61
HF IX - Extended + Merlin 71
VIII - Clipped/Unclipped + Merlin 66
HF VIII - Extended + Merlin 71
F V - Std + Merlin 46
LF V - Clipped + Merlin 55M
Don't think its possible...at the moment though.
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quad cannon Spits were used in the med. Yes please.
And a Spixteen (or a Mk IX with the CCC modding rather) with +25 boost...well wouldn't be much of a problem for HTC. Would probably need to be perked, although being from...1943?
You know I love Spits, but unless you are going to add all the other bits of weight with it, no way we should have a 4 cannon Vc. They were only ground attack and with the bomb rack on the centerline, the extra weight of the two outboard cannons as well as the big ugly Vokes filter under the chin, it would not be a dog fighter. And unless you can find some other photo proof, we're talking 1 squadron of the 4 cannon birds in Italy. They took out two of the cannons on Malta as a rule to save weight.
The Seafire III or a 1942-43 Spitfire Vc with the cropped Merlin 45 would make better sense.
And what the heck, a Spit XII would be even more fun :)
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You know I love Spits, but unless you are going to add all the other bits of weight with it, no way we should have a 4 cannon Vc. They were only ground attack and with the bomb rack on the centerline, the extra weight of the two outboard cannons as well as the big ugly Vokes filter under the chin, it would not be a dog fighter. And unless you can find some other photo proof, we're talking 1 squadron of the 4 cannon birds in Italy. They took out two of the cannons on Malta as a rule to save weight.
The Seafire III or a 1942-43 Spitfire Vc with the cropped Merlin 45 would make better sense.
And what the heck, a Spit XII would be even more fun :)
Clipped Vc with the 55M would be more fun ;).
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Back when we got weekly map rotations I thought it would be cool to have aircraft and Vehicle debris accumulate over the week.
Just imagine the piles of wreckage there would be by the time Skuzzy logged in to reset! :lol
Of course fields and towns would have to be self cleaning, it wouldn't do to have the runway blocked by a 50 foot deep pile of vulched plane wrecks :noid
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I would add the option to be able to spray gasoline on oily windshield to clean it.
Such was available at least in some Bf-109:s ;)
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"They took out two of the cannons on Malta as a rule to save weight."
That, and also to save ammo and because two cannons were considered very much enough to bring down anything that flew in that area.
Probably the reason why there were quite many 2 cannon 190As too.
-C+
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Was it the P51H that had the cannons? Thats what I want. And aircraft factories. Depending on how much the factory is down would dictate just how many 5.0 eny planes are allowed up at one time. :D
F-6A Mustang/Mustang Mk.1A
During the opening engagements in North Africa, aerial reconnaissance was a crucial aspect for the Allies fighting with limited forces. This aircraft depicts a converted P-51 "Mustang" fitted with an aerial camera behind the pilots position. Serving with the 111th Tactical reconnaissance Squadron, "Snooper" was an effective, high-speed camera platform.
111 Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron, 69th Tactical Reconnaissance Group
Mustang Mk.1A from 225 Sqn, RAF
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8283/0017fg8.jpg)
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Player manned field guns in towns (2 or 3)
Tougher armor on Tigers
Ability to change ORD load-out while on the rearm pad
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Back when we got weekly map rotations I thought it would be cool to have aircraft and Vehicle debris accumulate over the week.
Just imagine the piles of wreckage there would be by the time Skuzzy logged in to reset! :lol
Of course fields and towns would have to be self cleaning, it wouldn't do to have the runway blocked by a 50 foot deep pile of vulched plane wrecks :noid
All they'd need to do is add Bulldozers to the GV lineup. :D
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I'd like to see another model of the A-20 - One with cannons on the front.
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I'm drooling over this...
Please, your drool is moving towards my drool on the table. :D