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Title: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 12, 2008, 02:20:55 PM
 
Was having a hard time with a KI, who seemed to be able to change direction pretty quickly, after a few instances.. I decided to roll film..

here is a snippit.


:noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid

http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/wierdki.ahf

 :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid

net status on my end was rock solid....

wierd how lag can mess with ya like that.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess..
Post by: Lusche on June 12, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Such thing can happen. Simple lag thing most probably. I'd bet if you could have taken a look at your enemy's netstat, you would have seen a single spike.

If there's more about it in your opinion, better take the whole film, send it in and don't take it to BBS ;)
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess..
Post by: Wingnutt on June 12, 2008, 02:25:13 PM
Such thing can happen. Simple lag thing most probably. I'd bet if you could have taken a look at your enemy's netstat, you would have seen a single spike.



Yea, i must have been shooting his eithernet cable, he would do that every time I got behind him.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: AAolds on June 12, 2008, 06:08:17 PM
It's more than likely lag.  Ive seen lag and experienced it.   My lag was so bad a few weeks, I had to delete game and reinstall to fix the matter.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 12, 2008, 06:11:38 PM
I see no lag in that 11 second clip.   I see you missing a deflection shot.   Sorry, no lag spike, cable shooting/pulling.   

The bottom line is this, you KNOW BETTER than to post this on the BBS.   Personally, I wish HTC would start banning the ones that post this stuff.   
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 12, 2008, 06:29:55 PM
I see no lag in that 11 second clip.   I see you missing a deflection shot.   Sorry, no lag spike, cable shooting/pulling.   

The bottom line is this, you KNOW BETTER than to post this on the BBS.   Personally, I wish HTC would start banning the ones that post this stuff.   

dont know why you take the accusitory tone, all i said it it was lag...  I mean, lag is the only way a KI84 would do what it did in that clip..

just, lag..
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 12, 2008, 06:36:30 PM
dont know why you take the accusitory tone, all i said it it was lag...  I mean, lag is the only way a KI84 would do what it did in that clip..

just, lag..
Accusatory?  Hardly.  I made a blanket statement stating my feelings that probably ECHO the majority of players.   Your "sarcasm" is hinting at "something else".   Which again, reverts back to my "statement".   

Grow up and send the film in.   Don't post this crap on the BBS attempting to "sway the spotlight" from you.   You broke of the HTC rules of game play.   Instead of quietly sending the film in, you instead wish to "gather the masses" to band together. 

Checkmate.   
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: smokey23 on June 12, 2008, 07:09:19 PM
Who died an made the SAPP's the BB police, im with you wing ive sent in alot of film on laggers and do things get resolved NO so why not post it if ya got it. I dont see any problem with posting this it looks to me like you get behind the same planes as me warp at will types.<S>
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: AAolds on June 12, 2008, 07:24:54 PM
Wingnutt, you pay your 15 and have every right to post your film and opinions, regardless of what the BBS Gestapo says.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Yossarian on June 12, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
I'm with Wingnutt.

Masherbrum, he was just asking a question and posted an example so that people could help him better.  I don't know how you interpreted it, but that's what I thought.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: DangerousGame on June 12, 2008, 07:52:33 PM
Iv had times where nothing seems to happen when i think I should have parted a plane out, whats interesting about your film is It looks like you missed the shot from your Plane but if you go to the KI84 then external and pan around to the aft view, You seem to have gotten nice hits on the left wing just not enough to take it off.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: E25280 on June 12, 2008, 09:07:18 PM
Masherbrum, he was just asking a question and posted an example so that people could help him better.  I don't know how you interpreted it, but that's what I thought.
Yeah, kind of like Dredger was "just complementing" the Lynchmob on their ability to bust his NOE mission.

No, really. 

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 12, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
I guess I'm the only one not "falling for it".    Read the first post carefully.   
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: acfireguy26 on June 12, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
I guess I'm the only one not "falling for it".    Read the first post carefully.   
[insert funny Samual L. Jackson gif here]

(edited before impending Skuzzification)
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 12, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
cant imagine what there is to "fall for"

video is pretty simple, and shows nothing more than a KI84 rolling 180 degrees and going from a right to left bank in 1/64th of a second due to lag, the fact that it happened over and over again every time I got behind the guy (which is why I filmed it) was just an interesting side note.

sheesh, paranoid people, everybody on a witch hunt these days.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 13, 2008, 03:52:35 PM
It turned left, it didn't "warp".  Nothing LAG about it.   You missed a deflection shot.   My statement still stands.   

Insert all of the Pulp Fiction quotes you want, but what you're doing is what Winston Wolf said in "jimmy's garage" after the car was cleaned out.   
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 13, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
actually, i didnt miss..

he was turning right, then immediately flipped and was going left.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Sincraft on June 14, 2008, 12:52:32 AM
Geesh some people don't get tongue in cheek do they?

Yea, it's amazing how many suddenly warp JUST when you six THEM.  It's getting outright ridiculous.

Someone posted a you tube video of a guy with his TOE on the cable modem's standby button while flying in AH2 and titled something like 'using your cable modem as a safety button' or something but I can't find it anymore.

If someone could PM me that I would appreciate it, my brother wants to see it.

I people that do that stuff have their armpits infested with fleas.

Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 14, 2008, 12:55:28 AM
Sincraft I suggest deleting your post, HT doesn't like people discussing that stuff on here. Huge NO NO.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Rosscoe1 on June 14, 2008, 01:00:32 AM
Sincraft I suggest deleting your post, HT doesn't like people discussing that stuff on here. Huge NO NO.


ditto  :uhoh
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: james on June 14, 2008, 01:16:42 AM
Ice thought of posting video to see if anyone could help wit acm or to outright laugh at how bad I fly and get some tips on gunbery. Is that looked down on as well? Really just wondering and not trying to hijack. Just saw the subject was on films is all.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 14, 2008, 01:38:23 AM
Ice thought of posting video to see if anyone could help wit acm or to outright laugh at how bad I fly and get some tips on gunbery. Is that looked down on as well? Really just wondering and not trying to hijack. Just saw the subject was on films is all.

No, posting a film and claiming someone is doing something not legit is though. Posting a film to get input from others on how to fly better is not a problem.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Masherbrum on June 14, 2008, 09:03:54 AM
actually, i didnt miss..

he was turning right, then immediately flipped and was going left.
You fired and hit nothing.   You must be watching a different film than I am.   
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: SlapShot on June 14, 2008, 10:20:16 AM
Ice thought of posting video to see if anyone could help wit acm or to outright laugh at how bad I fly and get some tips on gunbery. Is that looked down on as well? Really just wondering and not trying to hijack. Just saw the subject was on films is all.

Posting a film in the "Help and Training" forum looking for constructive input is encouraged.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: SlapShot on June 14, 2008, 10:24:19 AM
Who died an made the SAPP's the BB police, im with you wing ive sent in alot of film on laggers and do things get resolved NO so why not post it if ya got it.

How do you know nothing got resolved ? ... was there anything for HTC to resolve ? HTC does not control the internet.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Bronk on June 14, 2008, 12:00:16 PM
Hmmm I slowed the film to .10x .  That's the fastest aileron roll I've seen by I Ki-84.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Agent360 on June 14, 2008, 12:43:49 PM
The film clearly shows a lag spike in the KI's roll. It is a very short spike and only occures right at the roll to the left. If you watch if from the KI's plane its very easy to see. It's actually easy to see from the other plane as well. And yes he lands a nice rakeing shot across the cockpit of the ki. But you have to slow it down and watch in "gun cam" or "external" so see that.

As for this happening over and over.....there are times when lag will only occur when two planes get close. This is when more info is being sent back and forth. The farther away from cons you are the less data is excanged. But when you get close or start to have a fast closure rate more packets...more data and hence the sudden lag.

Nothing special in this film. Just a bit of lag.



Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: moot on June 14, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
See this, and guess what it looked like from Wingzero's end, way out in Japan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/122430777/film36_0000.ahf
After that, he said on ch200 "Ta152 can do 180deg in 0.1 sec!". 
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 15, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
You fired and hit nothing.   You must be watching a different film than I am.   

watch it from his pov.
Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: angelsandair on June 15, 2008, 12:06:06 PM
everybody on a witch hunt these days.

We cant help it, they're EVERYWHERE!!  :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid :noid


Title: Re: Lag.. I guess.. (film)
Post by: Wingnutt on June 26, 2008, 12:50:22 AM

Man, ive got no luck with the lag..

this poor guy is even worse than the KI..

we should all chip in and buy crash4me a new cable modem or something..

sheesh.

http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/Nikimole.ahf