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Title: The're on the right track....
Post by: MoeRon on June 13, 2008, 05:53:25 PM

http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=769836803&pl=769851824.xml&plc=769851824&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml (http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=769836803&pl=769851824.xml&plc=769851824&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml)

water fueled car



NOTE: sorry link didnt work              :)
Title: Re: The're on the right track....
Post by: Maverick on June 13, 2008, 06:13:09 PM
Nice pop unders and crap on that site.
Title: Re: The're on the right track....
Post by: mg1942 on June 13, 2008, 06:16:16 PM
"even tea works" :D
Title: Re: The're on the right track....
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 13, 2008, 06:42:03 PM
So the Japanese are so clever they have figured a shortcut around the 2nd law.

Water... is...the... result... of... a... hydrogen... oxygen... reaction...

You cannot get more energy out of running a fire backwards, even if you could run a fire backwards, no matter how clever you are.

water is not an energy source.
Title: Re: The're on the right track....
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 13, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
From Fuel Cell Today
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It is claimed the Water Energy System (WES) developed by Genepax can generate power by supplying water and air to the fuel and air electrodes. The basic power generation mechanism of the system is similar to that of a standard fuel cell. The main feature of the new system is that it uses a membrane electrode assembly (MEA), which contains a material that breaks down the water to hydrogen and oxygen.

Though the company did not reveal any more detail the company president said that they had "succeeded in adopting a well-known process to produce hydrogen from water to the MEA", similar to the mechanism that produces hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water. However the company claims that compared with the existing method, the new process produces hydrogen from water for a longer time.

"similar to the mechanism that produces hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water"

I've read about systems that erode metal hydride in water, the reaction producing hydrogen.  What is not in the energy balance is the energy used to produce the MH.